Riven
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Reply #150 on:
2009-11-12 14:46:10 » |
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@00:10 Notice how there are 5 seconds lacking any feedback between clicking the [Launch] button and the application-window being visible. Note: I do understand that it is due to launching an external process, but please show some feedback, within 100ms! A splash would do just fine. |
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ChrisM
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Reply #151 on:
2009-11-12 15:21:56 » |
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Notice how there are 5 seconds lacking any feedback between clicking the [Launch] button and the application-window being visible.
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I do understand that it is due to launching an external process, but please show some feedback, within 100ms! A splash would do just fine.
Actually, the smaller box popped in behind the Java Store window. And REALLY now....this is one thing that all Windows users are familiar with. Clicking a link and not having any visual indication that something is working.  EDIT: IT WAS A JOKE FOLKS! Even if it was a poorly constructed one  Of course this will be addressed, the store is still in Beta. |
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Riven
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Reply #152 on:
2009-11-12 16:06:28 » |
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Actually, the smaller box popped in behind the Java Store window.
 Then maybe launch the splash from within the AppStore process, by creating a window and calling toFront(). No way the OS can interfere with that. |
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Markus_Persson
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Reply #153 on:
2009-11-13 11:42:24 » |
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Actually, the smaller box popped in behind the Java Store window. And REALLY now....this is one thing that all Windows users are familiar with. Clicking a link and not having any visual indication that something is working.
 Is this the general attitude within sun? |
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Orangy Tang
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Reply #154 on:
2009-11-13 12:39:23 » |
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And REALLY now....this is one thing that all Windows users are familiar with. Clicking a link and not having any visual indication that something is working.
Eh? If I click a link outside of a browser (say, from an email client) then the windows cursor will change to indicate progress. If I click a link within a browser then the there'll be a progress bar or icon within the browser itself. Personally I'd expect the 'launch' button to change state, probably disabled with some kind of 'launching...' animation on it. At the moment it looks like it's broken and you'd probably get users clicking it multiple times. |
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ChrisM
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Reply #155 on:
2009-11-13 12:40:38 » |
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Is this the general attitude within sun? Markus...come on I was just poking fun at Windows. Of course it's not the general attitude here. The store is still in Beta and they are working out the kinks. I should have put a wink in there to show I was kidding |
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ChrisM
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Reply #156 on:
2009-11-13 12:43:16 » |
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Eh? If I click a link outside of a browser (say, from an email client) then the windows cursor will change to indicate progress. If I click a link within a browser then the there'll be a progress bar or icon within the browser itself.
Personally I'd expect the 'launch' button to change state, probably disabled with some kind of 'launching...' animation on it. At the moment it looks like it's broken and you'd probably get users clicking it multiple times.
Actually, when you are installing from the store there actually is an animation to show it is working. It is an interface bit the team is working on. Again, bad joke on my part! |
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Riven
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Reply #157 on:
2009-11-13 12:45:55 » |
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Actually, when you are installing from the store there actually is an animation to show it is working. It is an interface bit the team is working on. Again, bad joke on my part!
Well, you can't blame us from taking it a bit too seriously, because Webstart has a really bad track record of pop-under certificate dialogs.  |
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ChrisM
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Reply #158 on:
2009-11-13 12:55:27 » |
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Well, you can't blame us from taking it a bit too seriously, because Webstart has a really bad track record of pop-under certificate dialogs. Agreed, but it's me guys! You know I am happy to call out warts where they are. Sorry for the confusion |
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trembovetski
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Reply #159 on:
2009-11-13 13:06:46 » |
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Well, you can't blame us from taking it a bit too seriously, because Webstart has a really bad track record of pop-under certificate dialogs. Hey, you told us people don't like those, so we're hiding them any way we can.. |
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CommanderKeith
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Reply #160 on:
2009-11-13 13:24:12 » |
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Lol, and it's very secure that way too |
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Riven
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Reply #161 on:
2009-11-13 13:32:51 » |
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Hey, you told us people don't like those, so we're hiding them any way we can..
They tend to reveil themselves when I'm shutting down Windows. Could you please shut it down for me as part of the launching procedure? |
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TheGDeveloper
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Reply #162 on:
2009-11-14 06:27:47 » |
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do we know when it will be open for Europeans?
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Markus_Persson
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Reply #163 on:
2009-11-15 07:56:53 » |
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Markus...come on I was just poking fun at Windows. Of course it's not the general attitude here. The store is still in Beta and they are working out the kinks. I should have put a wink in there to show I was kidding Oh, hah.  Sorry, my fun detection unit was malfunctioning. Also, yes! Winks! More winks = more fun! |
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trembovetski
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Reply #164 on:
2009-11-19 14:32:45 » |
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The store (or, rather, warehouse) became somewhat more global: http://java.sun.com/warehouse/overview/locations.jspPeople from these countries are now allowed to submit (for now, only free) apps to the warehouse: Australia Brazil China India Russia Sweden United Kingdom Dmitri |
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TheAnalogKid
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Reply #165 on:
2009-11-19 14:55:39 » |
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What??? Not Canada! Why?  ? |
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Reply #166 on:
2009-11-19 14:57:33 » |
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What??? Not Canada! Why? ? reason are written at the bottom of the page |
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TheAnalogKid
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Reply #167 on:
2009-11-19 15:55:44 » |
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Yeah, our tax/income tax system is sooooo complicated! Maybe that's why Canada isn't allowed for now.
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ChrisM
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Reply #168 on:
2009-11-19 16:48:02 » |
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Yeah, our tax/income tax system is sooooo complicated! Maybe that's why Canada isn't allowed for now.
You work on getting The Kids in the Hall back together and doing new material and we'll talk! Seriously, don't know why there is the delay yet... |
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TheAnalogKid
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Reply #169 on:
2009-11-19 17:32:46 » |
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You work on getting The Kids in the Hall back together and doing new material and we'll talk! Hmmm, sorry? English is not my first language, and I don't really know the american culture. |
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ChrisM
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Reply #170 on:
2009-11-20 00:51:17 » |
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Hmmm, sorry? English is not my first language, and I don't really know the american culture. Ummm.... "The Kids in the Hall"? The GREATEST comedy troupe to ever come out of Canada? If you are from Canada, it is your civic duty to go back and review their work! |
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TheAnalogKid
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Reply #171 on:
2009-11-20 09:20:42 » |
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oops! I don't have a lot of english canadian culture. I'm from Quebec (which is part of Canada for others reading this) and the first language is french, therefore the english culture is very different from the french one, or Quebec one I should say because even France and Quebec has a fundamental different culture. |
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Nate
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Reply #172 on:
2009-11-24 13:53:36 » |
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Sun contacted me about SingSong and I tried putting an app in the store. They even provided people I could contact with problems. It took many iterations and bug reports to finally get it going. The submission site is terrible. You should be able to just point it at a working JNLP and be done.
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trembovetski
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Reply #173 on:
2009-11-24 14:57:50 » |
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Sun contacted me about SingSong and I tried putting an app in the store. They even provided people I could contact with problems. It took many iterations and bug reports to finally get it going. The submission site is terrible. You should be able to just point it at a working JNLP and be done.
Did you relate your experience to the Sun rep? |
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Nate
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Reply #174 on:
2009-11-24 19:29:56 » |
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Yeah, I did, and I gave my suggestions. It just has quite a way to go still.
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trembovetski
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Reply #175 on:
2009-11-24 19:33:45 » |
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Yeah, I did, and I gave my suggestions. It just has quite a way to go still.
Thanks for doing that. Every bit helps. |
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zammbi
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Reply #176 on:
2009-11-24 23:55:13 » |
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People from these countries are now allowed to submit (for now, only free) apps to the warehouse:
Australia Brazil China India Russia Sweden United Kingdom Have Australia but not New Zealand! Hope to see NZ soon |
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CyanPrime
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Reply #177 on:
2009-11-25 01:02:55 » |
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Two questions.
1) How do I uninstall something I installed from the Java Store?
2) How do I develop for the Java Store? I want in.
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No Mercy
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Reply #178 on:
2009-11-27 14:10:06 » |
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You should be able to just point it at a working JNLP and be done.
Thanks for the feedback and we are looking to add support for JNLP ingestion as you are correct that will simplify the submission process for existing apps that use JNLP. |
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