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Offline Roquen

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« Reply #60 - Posted 2014-10-03 07:54:24 »

Intel yanks ad because of #gamersgate bitching:  http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2014/10/intel-folds-under-gamergate-pressure-pulls-ads-from-gamasutra/

and if you use linux, then because of the previous this is at least slightly hurting you: http://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/32778.html
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« Reply #61 - Posted 2014-10-03 08:22:34 »

Sad isn't it. Especially when you realise that if Intel (at large) had any idea what one of its sub-minions was up to it'd be all over it. The trouble with large corporations is they usually have no idea what's going on inside them.

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« Reply #62 - Posted 2014-10-03 15:11:45 »


Is that from the first draft of The Empire Strikes Back?    persecutioncomplex

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« Reply #63 - Posted 2014-10-06 18:52:57 »

Just saw this listed on HackerNews, a worthy read on this topic:
   "Open Source is awful in many ways, and people should be aware of this"
https://plus.google.com/app/basic/stream/z13rdjryqyn1xlt3522sxpugoz3gujbhh04

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« Reply #64 - Posted 2014-10-07 08:26:28 »

As I mentioned before I refuse to help any GPLed project, other than bug reports, because R.S. is a hateful person in his public persona.  Pretty much feel the same about Eric R. as well.
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« Reply #65 - Posted 2014-10-07 08:32:05 »

Who's Stallman been hating on?

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Offline nsigma
« Reply #66 - Posted 2014-10-07 09:35:54 »

As I mentioned before I refuse to help any GPLed project, other than bug reports, because R.S. is a hateful person in his public persona.  Pretty much feel the same about Eric R. as well.

That's a really weird black and white attitude to take!  Most people writing GPL software probably couldn't care less about RS.  If you're going to have a blanket ban on technology that some asshole may have been associated with, you're going to be living in the stone age.  And if you never want to deal with an asshole, you'll be living as a hermit.  Good people and evil people are found in folk tales (and seemingly the internet) - real life is usually a lot more complicated than that.

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« Reply #67 - Posted 2014-10-07 11:16:12 »

Just be nice.  Pointing

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« Reply #68 - Posted 2014-10-07 13:30:28 »

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That's a really weird black and white attitude to take!
Not really.  I'm not alone and people make these kinds of political/economic statements all the time.  If someone doesn't want to buy any (say) Nestle products as a statement that's their business.

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If you're going to have a blanket ban on technology that some asshole may have been associated with, you're going to be living in the stone age.
Open source software has a huge number of license that can be chosen from.  There are licenses that are equivalent to GPL/LGPL.  Besides I'm perfect free to use and modify GPLed software...I'll simply never distribute it.  No one is harmed except those that cannot profit from my (and others that feel the same) modifications.  Too bad, tell RS to stop being a dick if you care in the slightest.

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And if you never want to deal with an asshole, you'll be living as a hermit.
Assholes are fine.  I'm an asshole.  Luckily I have normal people for friends. Smiley

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Good people and evil people are found in folk tales (and seemingly the internet) - real life is usually a lot more complicated than that.
Of course...notice I said "..in his public persona".  He gets noticed by talking shit.  His BS offends me and gives a bad impression (like stereotypes) of programmers to regular people.  So screw him and anyone that supports him and his deeds.
Offline nsigma
« Reply #69 - Posted 2014-10-08 00:01:15 »

If someone doesn't want to buy any (say) Nestle products as a statement that's their business. ... Too bad, tell RS to stop being a dick if you care in the slightest ... So screw him and anyone that supports him and his deeds.

Boycotting a company because you find their practices abhorrent I get, boycotting a person too.  But boycotting an idea or invention because of it's association with a person or group that's abhorrent - where do you stop with that?  You'll have nothing left!  Someone using a GPL license because it suits their purposes doesn't necessarily support RS or his deeds, any more than someone flying in a jet aircraft supports ... (damn Godwin  Wink )

Assholes are fine.  I'm an asshole.

Assholes are fine.  I'm an asshole.  Grin

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« Reply #70 - Posted 2014-10-08 03:23:00 »

I already addressed that.  If you want GPL like coverage there's the choice an equivalent licence.  There's no rejection of an idea.  I refuse to empower RS in any way.  FSF/RS have a tendency to claim (in a way) all GPLed software.  Thout shalt be called GNU/Linux should come to mind here.  Also notice a software that RS really worked on:  emacs.  I freely admit and frequently say that emacs is the only editor worth using for a programmer...nothing else comes even close.
Offline nsigma
« Reply #71 - Posted 2014-10-08 09:09:03 »

I already addressed that.  If you want GPL like coverage there's the choice an equivalent licence.  There's no rejection of an idea.

Yes, because license proliferation is such a good idea  persecutioncomplex  Copyleft as a principle is useful for many reasons completely anathema to RS - rejecting the leading license to achieve that seems pointless.

I refuse to empower RS in any way.  FSF/RS have a tendency to claim (in a way) all GPLed software.

Yes, people say all kinds of crap - you must love hanging around on a Java forumTongue

Thout shalt be called GNU/Linux should come to mind here.  Also notice a software that RS really worked on:  emacs.

Except that the whole GNU/Linux thing has nothing to do with your argument because they're not claiming that name because of the GPL Linux kernel, but because the OS contains a load of stuff the GNU project really worked on.  You know the slash is there precisely not to claim Linux is GNU.  Which is not to say it isn't daft  Grin

My point remains, jerks are associated with or benefit from things we benefit from everyday.

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