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Offline Riven
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« Posted 2015-11-16 23:16:15 »

Please report any malfunction in this thread, so we have a central place to report oddities and plain breakage.

Just a few minutes ago I logged out, just to check whether everything was still working, and found out the registration captcha was broken. People must have only been able to register accounts through the Google/Facebook 'fallback' services I added quite some time ago.

Backlog:
  • when replying, 'insert quote' does not seem to work anymore
  • register-captcha is broken
  • some people do not get their account-activation/password-reset/email-change-confirmation emails, bricking their accounts
  • wiki has some issues with https images
  • submitting incorrect password causes "<span class="remove">Username</span>" message
  • (non SMF) irc-logger needs a restart
Please notify me of anything I missed.

I will try to find some time to work my way through the backlog in weekends, have patience. Pointing

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Offline NegativeZero

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« Reply #1 - Posted 2015-11-16 23:17:55 »

The IRC log has been missing in action for a number of days now.

Offline Riven
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« Reply #2 - Posted 2015-11-16 23:19:10 »

The IRC log has been missing in action for a number of days now.
Noted, but that it not really SMF, I just have to restart some process / figure out why the logger did not reconnect.

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Offline DarkCart

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« Reply #3 - Posted 2015-11-16 23:21:34 »

If you login and mess up your password, it says "<span class="remove">Username</span>" in the default font at the top of the page. Nothing else.

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Offline Phased
« Reply #4 - Posted 2015-11-16 23:25:00 »

Clicking read more, when you press the "You have recevied n medals"

gives

1  
2  
3  
8: Undefined index: 101075_125405
File: /home/jgo/public_html/Themes/default/languages/Manual.english.php (manual_intro sub template - eval?)
Line: 75
Offline DarkCart

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« Reply #5 - Posted 2015-11-16 23:33:18 »

Ooh, found another one. If you click "Appreciation++" in a PM, it gives you this

1  
2  
3  
8: Undefined index: m
File: /home/jgo/public_html/Sources/Karma.php
Line: 109


Nothing else.

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Offline kappa
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« Reply #6 - Posted 2015-11-17 07:44:53 »

the RSS feed has also been down for a while.
Offline basil_

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« Reply #7 - Posted 2015-11-17 07:48:09 »

maybe it's just me but ...

the post-preview works when using the quick reply - once, then it's stuck at showing Fetching preview...

o/
Offline ra4king

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« Reply #8 - Posted 2015-11-17 07:51:05 »

Editing a post in-place by hitting that paper and pencil icon on the right side freezes at the green bar with "Loading..." on top.

Offline NegativeZero

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« Reply #9 - Posted 2015-11-17 08:02:15 »

Riven, have you ever strongly considered open sourcing (parts of) the forum?
There's a small legion of committed and capable programmers on this site, and you've only got so much time to work on it yourself.

You don't have to do it all yourself.

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Offline Ecumene

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« Reply #10 - Posted 2015-11-17 12:52:22 »

Riven, have you ever strongly considered open sourcing (parts of) the forum?

We should have a sub-forum for reporting bugs, then fix them one by one. Open sourcing the forum will just add complications... Maybe a private repo where you log in with your JGO account, but not open.

Offline nsigma
« Reply #11 - Posted 2015-11-17 12:58:56 »

maybe it's just me but ...

the post-preview works when using the quick reply - once, then it's stuck at showing Fetching preview...

o/

What browser are you using?  I've found it never works at all in Firefox, but seems OK in Chrome.

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Offline KevinWorkman

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« Reply #12 - Posted 2015-11-17 13:02:31 »

Another option is to switch over to Discourse. It's an open-source forum software developed ("for the next 10 years of the internet") by some of the same people who created Stack Overflow. I really like it, and it's very actively developed.

They include methods for importing existing forums into a Discourse site. That would probably be a lot of work up front, but then you could sit back and enjoy new features as they roll them out.

I would guess that Riven won't feel like going this route, but it's an option.

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Offline Ecumene

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« Reply #13 - Posted 2015-11-17 13:14:26 »

Another option is to switch over to Discourse.
But I like the medals system, and the outdated feel to the forum is charming Cry
Also, if you upgrade the forum, you'll probably loose allot of the classic posts (Minecraft, WIDT, Game Jams being some of them...)

Offline KevinWorkman

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« Reply #14 - Posted 2015-11-17 13:22:34 »

But I like the medals system, and the outdated feel to the forum is charming Cry
Also, if you upgrade the forum, you'll probably loose allot of the classic posts (Minecraft, WIDT, Game Jams being some of them...)

I don't have a horse in this race, and I'm not really arguing for anything in particular. Just pointing out the option.

But Discourse already has a built-in medal system (which would replace our social rankings), for which you can add custom queries (so we wouldn't lose our social rankings). You can also like posts, which is pretty much what our medal system is (so we wouldn't lose the medals). (And some simple css could probably change the heart to a medal if people really hate the "like" system.)

And those classic posts would be saved if the forum was imported into Discourse.

Like I said, I don't really have a horse in this race. And maybe this thread isn't really the place to talk about Discourse (chit chat monster, here we come!). Just mentioning an option.

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Offline basil_

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« Reply #15 - Posted 2015-11-17 15:02:23 »

... then it's stuck at showing Fetching preview...
What browser are you using?  I've found it never works at all in Firefox, but seems OK in Chrome.
oh dear. i use FF 42.0

it did work in the past, maybe just on an older fox version.
Offline EtmosCode

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« Reply #16 - Posted 2015-11-17 15:42:51 »

Logging in, checking "unread posts since last visit" and logging out will mark ALL as read. Have to open them all before logging out unless I have time for crawling.

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Offline Longarmx
« Reply #17 - Posted 2015-11-17 15:56:32 »

Logging in, checking "unread posts since last visit" and logging out will mark ALL as read. Have to open them all before logging out unless I have time for crawling.

That's why I use "unread posts since epoch"  Pointing

Offline ra4king

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« Reply #18 - Posted 2015-11-17 17:40:29 »

Logging in, checking "unread posts since last visit" and logging out will mark ALL as read. Have to open them all before logging out unless I have time for crawling.
That's the whole point of Unread Posts Since Last Visit. Check out the Since Epoch option... but don't be alarmed at how many pages behind you'll be! Grin

Another issue: all JGO emails have been going straight to spam for me (using gmail). The reason: "It is in violation of Google's recommended email sender guidelines." This is the accompanying link: https://support.google.com/mail/answer/81126?hl=en#authentication

Offline Roquen

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« Reply #19 - Posted 2015-11-17 18:14:36 »

Interesting.  I have noticed I haven't been getting the updated thread e-mails, but having really thought about it...also on gmail.
Offline EtmosCode

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« Reply #20 - Posted 2015-11-18 16:47:31 »

Logging in, checking "unread posts since last visit" and logging out will mark ALL as read. Have to open them all before logging out unless I have time for crawling.
That's the whole point of Unread Posts Since Last Visit. Check out the Since Epoch option... but don't be alarmed at how many pages behind you'll be! Grin

That's strange though! When I joined, it wouldn't wipe the extra unread posts...because they were still unread. I guess it is more true to its name now. Thank you for pointing out the epoch option - I'll be going with that!

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Offline Riven
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Hand over your head.


« Reply #21 - Posted 2015-11-18 17:23:15 »

SMF's unread posts (whether it's since last visit, since epoch, or new replies) is known to occasionally break for certain accounts. Normally clicking the [MARK ALL MESSAGES AS READ] button will make it work correctly again, at the cost of... valuable history about what you have yet to read, obviously.

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Offline SHC
« Reply #22 - Posted 2015-11-18 17:28:08 »

This is a lot of damage to our beloved forum in my opinion. Couldn't we just upgrade SMF to a newer version?

P.S. I'd like to mention, that I'm still doing backups of JGO on my site: http://goharsha.com/jgo_recovery/

Offline Riven
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« Reply #23 - Posted 2015-11-18 18:38:24 »

SMF2 is not structurally better. It's from the same monkeys after all. We'd also lose all customizations and a shitload of bugfixes I applied throughout the years.

Admittedly, some mods/fixes trip up SMF, but the scale at which SMF is falling apart when I'm not touching it is worrying.

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Offline CodeMason
« Reply #24 - Posted 2015-11-19 18:38:05 »

The "registration" bug has been around for a *really* long time (it got me, so I would just lurk instead) until I (more recently) made an account via my gmail account.

Another issue I've found (and I have no idea if it's intentional or not), is that old posts are unavailable, for example: http://www.java-gaming.org/forums/index.php?topic=13211.30   which just returns "hello world"
Offline Riven
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« Reply #25 - Posted 2015-11-19 19:09:15 »

Any link to JGO starting with /forums/ is from the era (about 10 years ago) that JGO was not under my control AND another forum backend was used. It is unlikely the Topic IDs even match up with the SMF backend. Thank you for reporting though, I will make the 'hello world' page redirect to the homepage.

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Offline CodeMason
« Reply #26 - Posted 2015-11-19 21:00:47 »

Also -- when trying to send a PM, the "send PM captcha" doesn't load, and the "listen to the letters" doesn't work. All I see is the "broken image" image, and the audio stream is empty

EDIT: apparently the PM still went through, however - it doesn't show up in my outbox.

EDIT2: when the other person responded, it then showed up. weird.
Online CopyableCougar4
« Reply #27 - Posted 2015-11-19 22:17:40 »

CodeMason:
PMs don't show up in your outbox unless you check off the box for that.

Either wandering the forum or programming. Most likely the latter Smiley

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Offline Riven
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« Reply #28 - Posted 2015-11-19 22:40:51 »

I've never had a PM-captcha, let alone a broken one Pointing

Good to know though, I will look into it.

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Offline CodeMason
« Reply #29 - Posted 2015-11-19 22:52:07 »

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