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Offline Riven
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« Posted 2014-02-01 17:30:46 »

I sometimes find myself wondering how common visitors can make such rookie mistakes. Once someone has been on JGO for more than half a year, I tend to assume they ought to know things - that may not be entirely fair. I suspect other people might be dealing with this too.

What is lacking is context, to be more specific: the months or years of experience somebody has with java, or coding in general. I decided that it was easy enough to add, so from now on it's possible to add your experience in your profile, and it will be displayed alongside every post you make.

I hope this will mean that people will tolerate rookie mistakes even better, being even more lenient towards people just learning the ropes.

If you haven't entered your coding experience yet, you'll see a link to your profile in your post. This is only shown for you, others will not see this link in your posts, as to not force you into sharing this statistic with the world. Smiley



Obviously, it has absolutely no influence on your rank. That'd be a rookie mistake Pointing

As always, feedback is appreciated!
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Offline Troubleshoots

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« Reply #1 - Posted 2014-02-01 17:35:24 »

Nice feature, however I'm concerned that it could possibly make some users discriminate against others.
Edit: You made a rookie mistake. You missed out 6-9 months. Tongue

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Offline EgonOlsen
« Reply #2 - Posted 2014-02-01 17:38:25 »

Does the value increase automatically or do we have to adjust it manually from time to time?

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Offline Riven
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« Reply #3 - Posted 2014-02-01 17:40:31 »

Nice feature, however I'm concerned that it could possibly make some users discriminate against others.
I expect the opposite will happen (annoyance/discrimination --> tolerance), but we'll have to see how it pans out. Smiley

Edit: You made a rookie mistake. You missed out 6-9 months. Tongue
Fixed! Emo

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Offline Riven
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« Reply #4 - Posted 2014-02-01 17:41:04 »

Does the value increase automatically or do we have to adjust it manually from time to time?
One day, it will increase automatically. Today is one day, but not that day Smiley

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Offline Dxu1994
« Reply #5 - Posted 2014-02-01 17:52:31 »

very nice, major props for being able to implement this with SMF  Pointing

Offline Pauler
« Reply #6 - Posted 2014-02-01 17:55:48 »

I hope users are honest about their experience.
Offline Slyth2727
« Reply #7 - Posted 2014-02-01 17:57:01 »

Cool, I like this one!
And I do think that people that register here are mature enough not to lie about something like that. At least I hope so  Roll Eyes

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Offline Riven
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« Reply #8 - Posted 2014-02-01 17:57:07 »

I hope users are honest about their experience.
The thing is that filling out a higher number, can only be held against you. Smiley


As with, say, 3 years of experience, you ought to know better than to ask that question.



In other news, I saw somebody put '30 years' for general coding expereince, which was the maximum value, so I increased the max to 50 years. Now that should be enough, right...? Kiss

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Offline Troubleshoots

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« Reply #9 - Posted 2014-02-01 18:11:23 »

In other news, I saw somebody put '30 years' for general coding expereince, which was the maximum value, so I increased the max to 50 years. Now that should be enough, right...?

you ought to know better than to ask that question

Damnthatquotelimitdamnthatquotelimit...

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Offline Pauler
« Reply #10 - Posted 2014-02-01 18:14:12 »

It turns out someone can have more experience on java than on coding in general.
Offline Riven
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« Reply #11 - Posted 2014-02-01 18:15:19 »

It turns out someone can have more experience on java than on coding in general.
I like to let people fill out whatever they want. I'm not going to enforce such business rules any time soon. Smiley

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Offline xsvenson
« Reply #12 - Posted 2014-02-01 18:33:43 »

Definitely will be interesting.

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Online trollwarrior1
« Reply #13 - Posted 2014-02-01 18:55:43 »

Bahhhhh im so young still Cry
Offline Gibbo3771
« Reply #14 - Posted 2014-02-01 18:57:14 »

Very nice Cheesy However missing 6-9 month Sad

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Offline Riven
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« Reply #15 - Posted 2014-02-01 18:57:38 »

Bahhhhh im so young still Cry
Stay young, or die trying.

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Offline opiop65

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« Reply #16 - Posted 2014-02-01 19:00:36 »

http://onceuponatime.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:123092
That reminded me of the true story about the boy named "Peter Pan". No, he isn't very nice at all!

Edit, why not also show overall experience? I have three years experience in Java, but four overall. I learned some stuff that applies to programming in general, not just Java, in that one year. Someone may have only two years experience in Java, but maybe 15 overall. Obviously they would know more than someone who has only two years coding experience, if that makes any sense.

Offline Riven
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« Reply #17 - Posted 2014-02-01 19:01:08 »

Very nice Cheesy However missing 6-9 month Sad
Well, the options are: <1, 1-3, 4-6, 7-9, 10-12 months

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Offline Gibbo3771
« Reply #18 - Posted 2014-02-01 19:05:29 »

Very nice Cheesy However missing 6-9 month Sad
Well, the options are: <1, 1-3, 4-6, 7-9, 10-12 months

Derp derp, on android never seen them heh.

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Offline Riven
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« Reply #19 - Posted 2014-02-01 19:21:50 »

Edit, why not also show overall experience? I have three years experience in Java, but four overall. I learned some stuff that applies to programming in general, not just Java, in that one year. Someone may have only two years experience in Java, but maybe 15 overall. Obviously they would know more than someone who has only two years coding experience, if that makes any sense.
Well, there is limited space, so there is only really room for 1 line specifying experience, and showing 2 numbers is just confusing. Java experience is the best one, even if that means it isn't a good indication for every single one of us. Feel free to cheat the rules a bit, adding a year, if you think it's the right thing to do, in your case. There will be no background checks, honestly Smiley

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Offline ctomni231

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« Reply #20 - Posted 2014-02-01 19:30:59 »

What a great feature :-) Like the others said, it'll be great if you wrote the month/year and it updated based on time. I will definitely be using the metric to better understand exactly how many new developers exist, and their interests in gaming and programming in general.

As a extra suggestion, some people have proficiencies in certain libraries like java2d, slick, libgdx, jogl, javafx, jogl, etc. It would be nice to know as its own slot what these developers feel they are most proficient with. That way it'll further help people know who actually "knows" what they are saying in library specific threads, and help developers feel more confident about helping those individuals.

However, with the limits, it is just a nice afterthought... Maybe in the signature space  Pointing

Offline wessles

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« Reply #21 - Posted 2014-02-01 19:35:13 »

I like this.  Smiley

Offline Cero
« Reply #22 - Posted 2014-02-01 19:35:42 »

tbh who cares about "java experience" in particular ?
yes this is a java board, but if someone has 20 years of programming exp and only 2 of java is probably as good as someone with 10 years of java experience.
you may argue... dunno. But picking up another language just seems to get to know the intricacies of that particular language and has nothing to do with programming ingenuity, but whatever =D

maybe what is more intersting is years of experience and years of professional, as in getting payed for, experience

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« Reply #23 - Posted 2014-02-01 19:38:13 »

Learning another (reasonably different) language helps you look at programming differently, so I'd say even a person with 7 years experience with 2 of those years in Java could potentially be just as good as someone with 10 years only Java.

Offline Riven
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« Reply #24 - Posted 2014-02-01 19:39:51 »

It takes time to learn the java language and the java eco system. Anyway, it's all way too vague to define. We shouldn't attempt it, and keep things simple. As said, if you feel the current metrics vastly misrepresent your current awesomeness, just lie to compensate Wink

Man-years only give a rough indication of your skill. It would be way more accurate if we were to combine that with your IQ, education, nutrition and average amount of sleep. Now that's not gonna happen folks, that'd be creepy.

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Offline Cero
« Reply #25 - Posted 2014-02-01 19:43:12 »

nah, just wanted to say what comes to mind
I dont care either way :P

Offline saucymeatman
« Reply #26 - Posted 2014-02-01 21:17:06 »

tbh who cares about "java experience" in particular ?
yes this is a java board, but if someone has 20 years of programming exp and only 2 of java is probably as good as someone with 10 years of java experience.
you may argue... dunno. But picking up another language just seems to get to know the intricacies of that particular language and has nothing to do with programming ingenuity, but whatever =D

maybe what is more intersting is years of experience and years of professional, as in getting payed for, experience
Ive never been payed though!

This experience thing really is gunna make me look bad compared to everyone else XD!

And dont anyone dare say, "You dont need the experience system to make you look bad" haha.
Offline Riven
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« Reply #27 - Posted 2014-02-01 21:20:03 »

My suspicion is that it will boost the goodwill towards you.

We'll see how it turns out. It wasn't too hard to implement, so if the need arises to yank it out, I will only shed a few tears.

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Offline wessles

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« Reply #28 - Posted 2014-02-01 21:45:42 »

I will shed more.  Sad

Offline Mike

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« Reply #29 - Posted 2014-02-01 21:58:29 »

I like it. Nice feature Smiley

This board has so many nice features compared to the default installation of SMF.

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