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Offline Mike

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« Posted 2014-12-19 09:20:05 »

This isn't really gaming related per se, more of a related by proxy Smiley

A candy room, great views, 8 bedrooms, 15 bathrooms in Beverly Hills for 70 million dollar. It sounds like he's having fun with the money!

A video of the house:
http://www.expressen.se/leva-och-bo/persson-koper-lyxhus--for-en-halv-miljard/

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Offline VIrtueeL
« Reply #1 - Posted 2014-12-19 09:41:00 »

dont ask me why, but you do it to =p


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« Reply #2 - Posted 2014-12-19 09:54:53 »

I suppose he can sit in there all alone and wonder what went wrong with the rest of his life.

Or surrounded by lackeys, hangers-on, leeches and scroungers pretending to be his friends, as the case may be.

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Offline CommanderKeith
« Reply #3 - Posted 2014-12-19 11:41:12 »

Incredible house. Markus is a hero.
It does look like a suitable place for minecraft HQ with the blocky architecture and flat lines everywhere  Cheesy
I still hope that one day I'll make it big like him.

As an aside, I wonder if he bought the house to live in or as an investment that he'll rent?
I'm doing research on house prices for my phd thesis. Average gross rental yields in Australia are 3.8%, which means that his $70m house should cost $2.66m per year to rent. However most high-end property rents for much less.
This indicates that buyers of high-end property place a premium on ownership and the benefits of not having a landlord. They also hope for high capital gains to make up for low rental yields.

Offline Riven
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« Reply #4 - Posted 2014-12-19 11:52:05 »

@Cas: Ah, why so sour. Maybe he gave a wannabe friend a mock Christmas present.

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« Reply #5 - Posted 2014-12-19 12:56:37 »

No so much sour as just reflecting on what's been known of his public and private life over the last 5 years... it doesn't seem to have gone very well for him, apart from the money. The older we get the more we discover that the only things we really want are the things that money can't buy...

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Offline lcass
« Reply #6 - Posted 2014-12-19 13:03:39 »

hes got a point , his wife left him , everyone basically hates him because he is a sell out.
Offline Riven
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« Reply #7 - Posted 2014-12-19 13:05:09 »

Ah, I know nothing of his personal life, as it's none of my business.

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« Reply #8 - Posted 2014-12-19 13:05:12 »

And his dad committed suicide ISTR.

All in all... I wouldn't want to be Markus.

Cas Smiley

Offline Mike

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« Reply #9 - Posted 2014-12-19 13:24:34 »

And his dad committed suicide ISTR.

Indeed, but the intention of this thread wasn't to discuss personal items but just to show that it's possible to go from java-gaming.org to buying a 50 million euro house for the ones that are aspiring for such things.

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« Reply #10 - Posted 2014-12-19 14:39:01 »

... everyone basically hates him because he is a sell out.
Only massive dorks.  I bet the other folks that made a mint out of the deal rather than Markus poison pilling it don't hate him.  Not in the slightest.
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« Reply #11 - Posted 2014-12-19 15:18:06 »

Well this topic went to shit fast.

I would sell out for a billion bucks, security for me and my family. If you wouldn't then enjoy your cardboard box.

If he wants to go on the way he is now, so be it. Like modern day "celebrities" he will forgotten before he even cocks it.

Shit happens.

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« Reply #12 - Posted 2014-12-19 16:52:29 »

And his dad committed suicide ISTR.

Indeed, but the intention of this thread wasn't to discuss personal items but just to show that it's possible to go from java-gaming.org to buying a 50 million euro house for the ones that are aspiring for such things.

Mike
It is also possible to win the lottery... just not very likely, either Smiley

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Offline saucymeatman
« Reply #13 - Posted 2014-12-19 19:12:17 »

his wife left him
everyone basically hates him
And his dad committed suicide

All of these terrible things can happen to anyone, regardless of one's financial status.
Offline Drenius
« Reply #14 - Posted 2014-12-19 19:47:47 »

Well, the second point is way easier with money...
Offline Mr.CodeIt

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« Reply #15 - Posted 2014-12-19 21:37:57 »

Amazing house. Wonder what he plans on doing with it.
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« Reply #16 - Posted 2014-12-19 21:49:10 »

Amazing house. Wonder what he plans on doing with it.

Live there I imagine.

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« Reply #17 - Posted 2014-12-19 21:51:10 »

I'm happy for the guy, honestly. No bad blood here, though I genuinely wonder about the candy room...

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Offline Isvan
« Reply #18 - Posted 2014-12-20 02:12:51 »

I'm happy for the guy, honestly. No bad blood here, though I genuinely wonder about the candy room...

What happens when the candy runs out? Who does he call to refill it. These are the questions we need to know. Also, I wonder how many monitors he has now.

In all fairness, good on him.
Offline CopyableCougar4
« Reply #19 - Posted 2014-12-20 02:27:48 »

Yeah, except for the unfortunate changes that have happened in his life, he seems to have put himself in a situation where he can do exactly what he as stated he wants to do; just be a guy on the internet. He has the money and knowledge of his own success to keep him content in whatever endeavors he chooses to make.

Good for him.

Either wandering the forum or programming. Most likely the latter Smiley

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Offline SimonH
« Reply #20 - Posted 2014-12-20 02:35:38 »

So this is success? It makes me feel a little sad...
$70m means clean, safe drinking water for 700,000 people. One fifth of the 3.5 million who don't have even that.
I couldn't live happily in a house like that - too much excess!
I believe Markus is a good man - what is it about lots of money that makes people go blind?

EDIT: Soz, just checked - 3.5m die each year for want for clean water or sanitation, out of 2.5bn who don't have any.

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Offline CommanderKeith
« Reply #21 - Posted 2014-12-20 03:18:44 »

I couldn't live happily in a house like that - too much excess!

Me too! But does it say in the video that he'll live in it rather than rent?
He has to invest his money in something. Buying a big house isn't a bad investment, especially if he rents it out. It's better than blowing cash on a fancy car that just loses money.
The US real estate market hasn't fully recovered from it's big slump in the financial crisis, especially in LA, so I think he's made a good investment:
https://research.stlouisfed.org/fred2/series/LXXRSA


Some religions say that righteous people should donate 10% of their salary to charity (and Christians say that you should save another 10% for hard times in the future).
I'm sure Markus has given some money to charity, and probably gets hassled to every day, but he has no obligation.

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« Reply #22 - Posted 2014-12-20 04:09:32 »

There's a good chance Notch is giving plenty of money to charity considering his past history of insta-funding kickstarters and doing other indie-related charity before he became super-rich, and absolutely none of you here have any right to tell him what to do with the rest of it.

While I would probably never buy a 70 million dollar house, we don't have the right to be offended he did. He has 2 *billion* dollars, 70 million is only a fraction of his net worth. There's also a very likely chance he bought this house as an investment property, and has no intention on living there. If so, bugger off. He's just trying to be smart with his money, and yes, a 70 million dollar home you plan to rent out or sit on until the U.S. market recovers is a good investment.

"He has all this money he should save Africa with it!" or some other similar argument is ridiculous, by that definition none of you deserve to have any nice things what so ever, including the PC you're on right now, you could of spent that money feeding the homeless.

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« Reply #23 - Posted 2014-12-20 18:39:46 »

*Lots of good points*

Bottom line; Be a good person, do good things. Give where you can, help where you can. But you shouldn't feel guilty, or be judged, for living within your means.

Very well said. I couldn't say it better. You're the most reasonable person I saw in my short life so far.

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« Reply #24 - Posted 2014-12-22 22:35:13 »

Whatever is said here....

all I can say...


@Markus... invite your good ol pals from JGO to a party in your new house Smiley
Offline JESTERRRRRR
« Reply #25 - Posted 2014-12-23 01:27:33 »

Grats to him. Sounds like cas is really on the money here aswell.
Offline Cero
« Reply #26 - Posted 2014-12-23 12:50:03 »

The older we get the more we discover that the only things we really want are the things that money can't buy...

No money can fill an emotional void.
And the things that you can't buy with money are very hard to obtain, since there is no strategy to getting them. Unlike with getting rich

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« Reply #27 - Posted 2014-12-23 14:04:06 »

tl;dr: what Ray said.

I "love" all the sanctimonious posts here (and here) from people who are quick to swear that they'd never "sell out" (ugh) when they inevitably become rich, all while denying the privilege that they already enjoy.

It's almost funny: Notch started out as "just a dude" on JGO. Then he became successful and became "the hero" of JGO. And now that many of the old-timers have been replaced by kids (most of which were probably inspired to try Java after learning that Minecraft was made with it), Notch is now "the sell-out" of JGO.

You don't get to call anybody a sell out until you move out of your parents' house and have to start paying your own bills. It's easy to say what you would do with your billion dollars, but most people here swearing that they'd never sell their games are, at best, lying to themselves.

Good for Notch. People speculating about his true level of happiness and whether or not he's a sell-out or whatever: get back to work making your own games. :p This kind of obnoxious speculation is exactly what drove him away from the spotlight in the first place. It's a shame that even JGO craps on him now, mostly because kids are jealous and still naive enough to be self-righteous about what they'd do in his shoes.

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Offline JJengineering
« Reply #28 - Posted 2014-12-27 17:46:08 »

Now where he sold his company, 'everybody' knows that he has money, but honestly, would you like to have THAT much money?
Allthough it sounds like from a movie, IMHO, with big wealth, comes big responsibility.
I think of him (of what I have seen and heard), to really start supporting other projects, charity and the like, BIG time. I also think of him as a person, that if he gives a lot of money to a certain cause, he won't brag about it. And even if people brag hard about something they do, the effect of giving and helping is still exactly the same.
Even he blows off hundreds of millions, it does not change the fact that he still has a lot of money and can support a huge group of people with it.

I don't think he gives too much about the damn money, I guess he wants to live his live too, like most of us do.

One more point is, that i have NEVER read ANYTHING, about how hard he must have worked to get to this point.
Have you seen any serious Minecraft clones? No... (it must be one i don't know of then).
I learned OpenGL(fragments of it) and after some time (1-2 years) i thought, that it is very realistic to programm something like that.
Well, now, a good few years after, I would tell you that making something like minecraft, ALONE, is more work than you would every think. It's ridiculous how people tend, or even want to forget the fact that he worked his ass off.

Sorry for dragging it on and on, just makes me angry he's known to sell his game, get rich.... and thats all people talk about.
Remember, he worked his ass off :P, i feel deep respect for Markus, and amongst others, made me use LWJGL and not go the C++ only route ^^
Just saying.
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