h3ckboy
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2010-06-30 18:10:56 » |
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to me, the two are different, and I am native american englihs  .
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Eli Delventhal
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Reply #31 on:
2010-06-30 18:33:06 » |
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Yeah in American English called and cold are very different, but in British English they are pretty much the same. I don't think that's really a big deal, though, as you'll see plenty of words that have multiple meanings in any language, as well as a lot of homonyms on top of that ("pear" "pare" and "pair" being the most famous English example). So it's not like it's unusual. But the Brits talk funny, I admit. 
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Nate
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2010-06-30 23:47:38 » |
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I really enjoyed the book. The woman and I each had our own copy and read a chapter at a time together. Once you get past the author going on and on about why it is you should listen to him, he has a very scientific approach to relationships. It is all logical and makes perfect sense to me, quite possible because I'm a programmer.  Being able to apply logic to a relationship is pretty fantastic. IMO the book is great for all relationships, regardless of how healthy the relationship currently is. Most of it applies to all relationships too, not just marriages. I decided about a month ago to get a puppy. Never had a dog before, so I researched the crap out the subject. I've read three dog books, researched breeds, food, training methods, toys, etc. I'm now a freaking dog expert! Sans actually having raised a dog of course -- puppy arrives on Tuesday. Yay!  Anyway, I was just thinking about how much more I've researched things like getting a puppy than understanding females. I think, for the most part, just putting up with them is so damned draining that there is little effort left over.  I am native american englihs
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Don Kiddick
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Reply #33 on:
2010-07-01 04:44:11 » |
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Called and cold are different in British English too. 
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tberthel
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Reply #34 on:
2010-07-01 09:23:46 » |
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Congratz Demonpants
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xinaesthetic
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Reply #35 on:
2010-07-01 11:35:24 » |
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Congratulations indeed.
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Reply #36 on:
2010-07-01 17:43:48 » |
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....Riven, I don't really know if this is due to British English / American English differences, but "called" and "cold" sound sensibly different to me.... ....to me, the two are different, and I am native american englihs... I hope so that's your language  , it would be very strange if native english speakers cannot make a difference probem is more to learn it when it is not your native language and especially how to pronounce words and understand their pronounciation, I had problems to make a real difference for a cupples of words all my life when earing/speaking english. yes, this one "called/cold" but also "beach/bitch" a bit more embarrassing... and a lot more sometime when a french guy want to simulate/joke he speaks english he just say something really monotone like "wana wawa yeah", this kind of joke is pretty revelant I think of how it is hard to get english language nuances for french.
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Eli Delventhal
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Reply #37 on:
2010-07-01 18:11:30 » |
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yes, this one "called/cold" but also "beach/bitch" a bit more embarrassing... and a lot more
sometime when a french guy want to simulate/joke he speaks english he just say something really monotone like "wana wawa yeah", this kind of joke is pretty revelant I think of how it is hard to get english language nuances for french.
I have been saying beach instead of bitch (or vise versa) as a joke for a long time now. "Hey are we going to the bitch?" "Don't be such a beach!" So you can always pretend that you're joking.  I was party to some French people making fun of how the English language is, and it was just like that! Making fun of the French language is just as fun. "Let's go to the Looooooooooouvreeeeewww..."
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Nate
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Reply #38 on:
2010-07-02 03:12:25 » |
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Spanish speakers have trouble with beach/bitch because the Spanish i is pronounced like ee.
In Peru they make fun of English by adding "-ation" to the end of words. I make sure to accidentally use Chile instead of Peru whenever possible (rival countries).
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Riven
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Reply #39 on:
2010-07-02 03:42:12 » |
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So... then... what about juice/jews? Well, maybe it's me, and there are very distinct differences, but to me they sound identical. 
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h3ckboy
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Reply #40 on:
2010-07-02 06:05:40 » |
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their similar, but not quite identical juice ends more abruptly, jews, kinda like fades out, hahah, Im terrible at explaining pronounciation
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teletubo
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Reply #41 on:
2010-07-02 13:09:21 » |
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Spanish speakers have trouble with beach/bitch because the Spanish i is pronounced like ee.
In Peru they make fun of English by adding "-ation" to the end of words. I make sure to accidentally use Chile instead of Peru whenever possible (rival countries).
Heh that's also true in Portuguese . We love "to english" our portuguese words by adding -ation . Nate, have u been/going to be in Peru ? I'm there quite often because of some projects I'm working on .
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Jono
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Reply #42 on:
2010-07-03 03:17:51 » |
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Haha! An excuse to harp on about accents of English. It's like all my Christmases came at once.  For beach/bitch, for most accents the pronunciation is similar but not identical (one exception is Australian English where they are exactly the same). They can always be distinguished by the fact that beach has a long vowel and bitch a short vowel. For juice/Jews, the final consonant of Jews is voiced (so it has a `z' sound rather than an `s'), this tends to make the word longer too. Pair/Pear are different in most accents. An exception is New Zealand English where they have merged. Called/cold are have merged in "general American" and in Welsh accented English. They can be distinguished by length though ('called' being longer).
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Nate
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Reply #43 on:
2010-07-03 05:42:47 » |
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Nate, have u been/going to be in Peru ? I'm there quite often because of some projects I'm working on .
I haven't been down there since 2006, but I've been to Peru 4 times. Mi esposa es Peruana.  I've been to Mancora, Macchu Picchu, and stayed in Lima a lot. Got married in San Isidro in 2006. In the US, called/cold are very different. It is impossible to say them identically and be right. Also pear/pair are the pronounced exactly the same.
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m77
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Reply #44 on:
2010-07-03 13:57:25 » |
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Demonpants, congrats! Hey upload pics!
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Riven
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Reply #45 on:
2010-07-03 16:26:02 » |
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Let the hijack commence... gnu ~= knew  Stop correcting me.
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Reply #46 on:
2010-07-03 16:50:16 » |
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Riven, your logo is really funny  wow and signature is even more! 
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teletubo
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Reply #47 on:
2010-07-03 17:54:07 » |
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I haven't been down there since 2006, but I've been to Peru 4 times. Mi esposa es Peruana.  I've been to Mancora, Macchu Picchu, and stayed in Lima a lot. Got married in San Isidro in 2006. In the US, called/cold are very different. It is impossible to say them identically and be right. Also pear/pair are the pronounced exactly the same. I always stay in San Isidro district in Lima. Near the Colegio San Augustin . Tellme if you ever get back there, I'll probably be going to Lima a few more times for next months . Y saludos a tu esposa ! Just to derail this Thread a little more , damn you Riven and your soccer team 
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2010-07-03 17:56:14 » |
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Just to derail this Thread a little more , damn you Riven and your soccer team  Worst is that I couldn't care less about soccer ~= sucker.
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2010-07-03 18:01:10 » |
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Worst is that I couldn't care less about soccer ~= sucker.
I kinda guessed that given you unsociable nature ( no offense !). I just wanted to swear at some Dutchman ...
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Riven
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Reply #50 on:
2010-07-03 18:17:08 » |
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I kinda guessed that given you unsociable nature ( no offense !). I just wanted to swear at some Dutchman ...
Just to be sure, I meant that soccer and sucker sounded alike, not dropping hints, but yes, regardless of that, supporting soccer, or any sport, requires some social mentality. Associating themselves with these teams, owning their actions, screaming their heads off for no apparent reason, waving with their flags, and whatnot. I'm sorry 'you' were beaten by 'us', and if you feel better projecting 'brazils' disappointment at 'the dutch', feel free to call me names  and being offensive, saying 'no offense', which I like, as there is no defense against it, and no way to get back at you, like saying... "i don't mean this demeaning, but, how old are you?"... Oh, demonpants, congrats, again! Already bought the books that are going to keep you happy?
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2010-07-03 18:24:43 » |
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Just to be sure, I meant that soccer and sucker sounded alike, not dropping hints, but yes, regardless of that, supporting soccer, or any sport, requires some social mentality. Associating themselves with these teams, owning their actions, screaming their heads off for no apparent reason, waving with their flags, and whatnot. I'm sorry 'you' were beaten by 'us', and if you feel better projecting 'brazils' disappointment at 'the dutch', feel free to call me names  and being offensive, saying 'no offense', which I like, as there is no defense against it, and no way to get back at you, like saying... "i don't mean this demeaning, but, how old are you?"... Oh, demonpants, congrats, again! Already bought the books that are going to keep you happy? yay it worked ! you got a little pissed ! 
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Riven
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Reply #52 on:
2010-07-03 18:44:34 » |
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yay it worked ! you got a little pissed !  Not quite, but lets' stay ontopic here: Unlike Demonpants, I'm not married. Damn, I wonder when I'll find somebody that is like me, and then, together, laugh and point at everybody else. Right, like that's going to happen. Then again, if opposites attract it will be a bloodbath, probably. Somebody inform the authorities before it's too late. Thanks. So while you're depressed and sad, why don't you lighten your mood and relocate to The Netherlands, to be part of the winning team, as opposed to the losers. You won't regret it. The Dutch are so awesome you'll find it hilarious 24/7. Also, Demonpants, if you like unwieldly long book titles, buy only the cover of this book and wrap it around something else.
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Reply #53 on:
2010-07-03 20:44:46 » |
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I will probably never involved myself in such experience but I wish the best for people that do, astonishing idea to read a book to find some marriage answer ?
fortunatly I dont care about soccer too ... do not watch soccer take drugs that's less dangerous :p
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Reply #54 on:
2010-07-05 02:29:31 » |
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The words succer and soccer don't sound anything alike.
One is su - a - ker
The other is foo - oot - ball
Kev
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OverKill
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Reply #55 on:
2010-07-05 04:02:50 » |
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Maybe we can split this off into another thread (or two) so to not further hijack Demonpants' topic. Then we can really start trashing our languages. 
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Reply #56 on:
2010-07-05 22:18:19 » |
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Meh I don't care. It's the nature of a conversation to evolve, innit?
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Reply #57 on:
2010-07-06 00:31:57 » |
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The other is foo - oot - ball
perfect
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Reply #58 on:
2010-07-19 07:13:42 » |
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Somehow late, but congrats to this big step =)
@german grammar: I wish it would be that simple like in other languages :/
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Reply #59 on:
2010-07-19 11:15:39 » |
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The words succer and soccer don't sound anything alike.
One is su - a - ker
The other is foo - oot - ball
Kev

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