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Offline Jimmt
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« Reply #30 - Posted 2013-08-31 07:52:00 »

Homework usually has me sleeping 6-7 hours, so I don't really need coffee Pointing
But when I do drink it, I pull all-nighters, then I hallucinate on the next day (it's kinda like being high, I think).
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« Reply #31 - Posted 2013-08-31 16:32:01 »

I found it easy to quit my coffee habit cold turkey - didn't even have any headaches or cravings - then again, I 'only' used to drink 4-5 cups a day.

Then, after about 6 months, I drank one cup, and couldn't help myself staying awake for over 40 hours, programming for 36 hours straight. That caffeine is powerful stuff.



Wow! This has got to be some sort of record!  My longest continous coding time was 6 hours 9pm to3am and I wasn't able to code for days afterwards.

I love coffee.  Kept me awake studying my medical books when I was at uni.  2 cups a day until I got hospitalized and I was advised not to take coffee or tea.   This is what I drink now:

www.vegetariantimes.com/recipe/ginger-tea/?canonical=noquery&circ_ad=b&utm_expid=1306512-12.Cp3ocSSkTDOMXgcmIruxCQ.1
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« Reply #32 - Posted 2013-08-31 19:04:25 »

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Caffeine keeps you awake, but its a defense mechanism for plants that keeps animals away after they try eating it.

Actually, I just heard the opposite. The mental boost from caffeine in pollen can help a bee remember where the flower is.

I wonder if I can find the study, if challenged. I recall it done on one particular flowering plant but I don't recall which, and the experimenters hadn't yet determined if it was in other flowers. But it could be the ironic truth that health-food types trying to be caffeine free but enjoying a boost from bee pollen are actually getting a dose without knowing it.

Found it!
http://www.csmonitor.com/Science/2013/0307/Caffeine-in-flowers-helps-boost-a-bee-s-memory-say-scientists

Cool. I wonder to what extent what I said is true. I would not necessarily say they are opposite because I am not sure it would have the same effect on mammals as on bees or if all plants that produce caffeine are pollinated by bees. Speaking of bees and nicotine, nicotine is something that deters bees so that they only pollinate a plant once but has a completely different effect on other animals.
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Offline philfrei
« Reply #33 - Posted 2013-09-01 03:05:32 »

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Cool. I wonder to what extent what I said is true. I would not necessarily say they are opposite because I am not sure it would have the same effect on mammals as on bees or if all plants that produce caffeine are pollinated by bees.

Very true. Could have different effects on different animals. But also, the different forms of delivery, different quantities or different combinations with other ingredients could have opposite affects.

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Here's another candidate for caffeine delivery to consider: Bubble Tea! (aka Pearl Tea)
I think those tapioca pearls are great. I try to only have one or two a month. I could see really making them a habit.

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Offline ReBirth
« Reply #34 - Posted 2013-09-01 04:11:29 »

Like to animals, caffeine has different effect to humans too. Some people get wake all night and (even) hallucinate, while others feel nothing even after two cups (like me).

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Wow! This has got to be some sort of record!  My longest continous coding time was 6 hours 9pm to3am and I wasn't able to code for days afterwards.
My longest strike was almost 24h (reduced with eat, pee, and making coffee. No poop or nap) in a hackathon. After that I spent a week procrastinating.

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« Reply #35 - Posted 2013-09-01 04:36:26 »

That was a little too much information  Yawn

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« Reply #36 - Posted 2013-09-02 05:13:37 »

<meta><nerding> I said something kind of stupid. It doesn't matter if bees were the only species that interacted with caffeine in plants or not. The logic was almost "A implies B, A does not equal C, C implies D, therefore D," which is obviously faulty, and should not be taken to be true on those grounds. It also borrows from the common misunderstanding of a highly anthropomorphic or cause and effect based evolution. Bees may have exploited caffeine for their own uses, or plants could have exploited bees by making caffeine, or it could have been co-evolution, or it could just be coincidence, or everything I said could just be anecdote, or the memory effect in bees could be wrong. All the individual parts could be true but it should not have been persuasive. Wink I noticed no logic flaws in the nicotine comment though.

When I thought about what I said I realized I could have forgotten that caffeine was not exclusively a defense mechanism but also something that helped the plant by giving the mammal that ate it insomnia and faster metabolism (or whatever caffeine does), carrying the plant seeds much farther than normal before the animal pooped them out somewhere far away. Which is pretty similar to bee pollination. Take that with a grain of salt because I also can't remember if I heard it in a biology, chemistry, or math class... The point is animals may eat plants with caffeine but do not necessarily respond to what they feel after ingesting it by ingesting more and more like certain cultures do.</nerding></meta>

Also, everyone be careful with self diagnosis. Smoking may not be an addiction you have after reducing caffeine intake, but it could be a consequence of a different addiction like caffeine addiction. Do not treat lack of sleep with a sleep suppressant. If someone thought they risked becoming addicted to their hangover cure and felt sick around the time they took it, then you would hope they would be more reflective. You also don't want to look for substitutes for something at the first sign that it bothers you in some ways just because it may be difficult to give up.

The number of people that convince themselves to quit coffee for health reasons but take up soda instead as an alternate caffeine source is shocking. There are also people that quit soda for health reasons and take up energy drinks. Then there are also people that quit energy drinks for health reasons and mix caffeine powder into "healthier" drinks. It's a real thing...

I forgot to mention that hot chocolate is an alternative to coffee and tea. (Whatever may happen to be your preference. And plain chocolate was already mentioned.) It also contains caffeine besides sugar. I don't know how much compared to other things. I was going to mention it as an alternative before reading what other people said. Try it if you hate coffee and want a warm liquid or to help wake up first thing in the morning on certain bad days. Don't try it if you want to sleep less.

If it were a morning thing or psychological thing, I would also say there is no rule against having soup for breakfast. (For now at least. persecutioncomplex ) I still recommend against starting a caffeine "supplement" if you don't ingest it already. (It makes me unproductive and sick even if other people like it - I found no way around it and see no reason to now.) And I recommend reducing it if you started or increased your caffeine intake based on the rationale that it is just what you are supposed to do.
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« Reply #37 - Posted 2013-09-02 05:39:35 »

Someone make a game about coffee.

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« Reply #38 - Posted 2013-09-02 05:44:20 »

It would make a good Ludlum Dare topic.
Offline Oskuro

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« Reply #39 - Posted 2013-09-02 13:30:00 »

Aren't all games, in a sense, about coffee?

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« Reply #40 - Posted 2013-09-03 05:03:37 »

Coffee won't be LD theme. On slaughtering we're encouraged to kill object name.

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« Reply #41 - Posted 2013-09-04 13:41:37 »

I drink one coffee a day, in the morning. BUT! I make sure I eat something 15 minutes before I do, that seems to prevent any stomach problems that I would normally get from coffee.

I don't drink it because I need it; a healthy sleep should cover that, throwing coffee at yourself to wake up is only treating the symptom. I drink it because it is damned tasty.
Offline SwampChicken
« Reply #42 - Posted 2013-09-06 05:09:54 »

Nothing better than a smooth flat-white (or three) from the hipster cafe across the road.
Offline SHC
« Reply #43 - Posted 2013-09-06 08:13:36 »

Nothing better than a smooth flat-white (or three) from the hipster cafe across the road

I like Hyderabadi Chay more. I accidentally clicked "Appreciate" SwampChicken.

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« Reply #44 - Posted 2013-09-07 09:32:17 »

I've never tasted coffee before.

I drink Diet Coke or Coke Zero all the time.....sometimes too much Grin

Offline ReBirth
« Reply #45 - Posted 2013-09-08 05:32:18 »

That's why you become fat! Grin Try coffee, good for diet.

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« Reply #46 - Posted 2013-09-08 21:00:18 »

I've never tasted coffee before.

I drink Diet Coke or Coke Zero all the time.....sometimes too much Grin

Why do people drink zero or diet anyways?
They are all marketing victims Sad
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« Reply #47 - Posted 2013-09-09 00:37:05 »

I'm on a low-carb diet, so I can't have sugar Wink

Offline philfrei
« Reply #48 - Posted 2013-09-09 06:03:11 »

I mostly drink fruit juice blends from TJ's, but they are too sweet, so I dilute them with water and usually add a few squirts of lemon juice. The citrate is supposed to help kidney stones from forming. It is very refreshing that way, and maybe will be allowed by the lowcarb diet, if the juices are diluted enough. I am very wary of sugar substitutes.

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« Reply #49 - Posted 2013-09-09 06:51:18 »

A song on Coffee: Just remembered it while watching tv.

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/ymus_virFTo?version=3&amp;hl=en_US&amp;start=" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/v/ymus_virFTo?version=3&amp;hl=en_US&amp;start=</a>

A translation into english (meaning) by me.

Dear friends,

Everyday, coffee is the real kick
Big problem comes if we can't get a sip
It is great luck to get a cup of coffee
It is the elixir.

Hail coffee!

There is nothing when compared to it in the whole universe
Hence we tie you to our lips
We hail it with our tongue everyday
We fight for bed coffee with wife without mouth wash
Coffee can stop an angry man and cools the tongue

Oh coffee for what the universe strives,
Oh coffee that saves our lives,
Tongue gets watery upon seeing the way decotion comes out from seeds
It can stop suicides.
Man gets angry on early calls without you and destroys his contacts
And then, they make a cup of coffee in urgent

They dont wait for any thing but they wait endlessly for cofee.
They mix the coffee from one cup to another for several times.
It is even used in temples! Most of the universe is stable with coffee.

Namaste coffee! Namaste! No one can stay without saying 'Adbhutaha!', that is 'Awesome!'

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« Reply #50 - Posted 2013-09-09 09:45:03 »

I'm on a low-carb diet, so I can't have sugar Wink

Yeah sorry, but sweetners do the same thing.
They make your body extra active on carb processing, so you will get the same amount of carbs + some extra poisonous materials from the sweetners.
If your on a diet, better just drink water, almost any drink contains (high) amount of sugars or some replacement for it.
But everyone his own thing, (i drink / eat way to much sugar), so i cant really say im any better Smiley
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« Reply #51 - Posted 2013-09-09 10:11:46 »

That's FUD; the body does absolutely nothing with sweeteners. Except possibly aspartame, which possibly it helpfully metabolises into methanol to make you terribly ill eventually.

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« Reply #52 - Posted 2013-09-09 11:23:48 »

Two cups a day is my maximum. One in the morning and another whenever I enter my programming phase of the night.

If you want something as an alternative, you can always try green tea.

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« Reply #53 - Posted 2013-09-09 11:38:29 »

That's FUD; the body does absolutely nothing with sweeteners. Except possibly aspartame, which possibly it helpfully metabolises into methanol to make you terribly ill eventually.

Cas Smiley

Idk, you are right that its not fully psychical, but it does have effect on calory intake Smiley
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/02/080210183902.htm
http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2012/12/04/saccharin-aspartame-dangers.aspx
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« Reply #54 - Posted 2013-09-09 11:49:50 »

I did read in New Scientist about an interesting effect when exercising and taking no-cal sweetened drinks versus real glucose energy drinks - seems that you can fool the tastebuds but not the brain. No time to dig up link though. The gist of it was, taking actual sugar immediately increased stamina, whereas artificial sweeteners had no effect at all on performance immediately or subsequently.

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« Reply #55 - Posted 2013-09-09 12:40:32 »

Of course real sugar has other (additional) effects then sweeteners, im only talking about the diet part, im sure there are some pros/cons at both sides, but weight-loss is not one of them, since sweeteners have the same or worse effects.

Sugar gives a direct rush, because its easily absorbed into your bloodstream.
Sweeteners, however, are showing effects inside the (lower) intestines if im right.
Offline Cero
« Reply #56 - Posted 2013-09-09 13:54:07 »

The problem is Aspartame is the most used sweetener it seems, and I would rather put a bullet in my head than consuming that :D

It seems "invert sugar" is a nice compromise

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« Reply #57 - Posted 2013-09-09 14:01:28 »

somewhat related article on the effect of sweeteners regarding the insulin level: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/artificial-sweeteners-insulin/#axzz2eOcbNNlo

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« Reply #58 - Posted 2013-09-09 19:37:37 »

I've been on this diet for 4 months, have been drinking Diet Coke/Coke Zero quite religiously, and have still managed to lose 35 pounds. Sweeteners do nothing to me. Smiley

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« Reply #59 - Posted 2013-09-09 23:32:36 »

The coffee machine at work makes the most wonderful lattes. I am a slave to the coffee machine. It has got to the point where I am watching my weight for the first time in my life, all because of those darned lattes.

And by the afternoon I am weird and shaky from all the caffeine. I'm trying to switch to skim milk decafs.

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