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Offline Stranger
« Posted 2015-11-26 08:30:11 »

Gentlemen! (and Ladies, of course)

First and foremost I must admit that most likely I came to the wrong place with my question and it is strange to read this post from the person who has close enough (so far) relation to the gaming.

Nevertheless, with pain in the heart I'm knocking in all the doors asking for help to solve my problem which name is DOTA and, maybe. all the online (multiplayer) computer video games.

One guy ( which is my, say, brother ) is abandoned all his life, including learning in the college for playing in DOTA up to 14 hours per day ( sometimes even more )

I tried different technical means to prevent him from over-playing but they give no result by different reasons.

In short, can anybody give a hint how to block DOTA in LAN in such way that my participation in that will be hide? otherwise all the efforts is lost...

Thanks in advance

Anton
Offline CommanderKeith
« Reply #1 - Posted 2015-11-26 10:55:05 »

It's very kind of you to try and help your brother this way.
Something you might try is to get your brother addicted to making games rather than playing them. That's how I transitioned from gamer to amateur coder.
Here is an interesting article about what makes games addictive, which might make him see the pointlessness of game addiction and the hooks that he is falling for:
http://www.yukaichou.com/gamification-study/world-of-warcraft-gamification/#.VlbjxXbvM0M
Good luck!

Offline Icecore
« Reply #2 - Posted 2015-11-26 11:14:37 »

I don't know is it good advice but:
find more fast game then Dota
From fast game you tired faster, + they more rewarding for brain
-so after some time it will be hard return to Dota where matches can be 1 hr long

Does this help with game addiction – not really but it will help decrease time spending on it

up:
p.s I can’t say that problem in Dota – you can find many same stories about
Wow, L2, LoL, Diablo 3, CS, even minecraft..
Flappy bird?

up2:
Irs not only adrenaline addiction,
its also communication addiction – like Stay all day in some Chat, Forum, social network
(and social network also have “find something new” addiction)
Man this world full of addictions Sad

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« Reply #3 - Posted 2015-11-26 11:16:26 »

Well, I hate to say it, but blocking DOTA would probably not really help much.

If he really is addicted, he will find ways around the block or turn to something else (another game, whatever). Nobody can really help him, before he realizes, that he is hurting himself. This unfortunately mostly only happens when facing bad consequences (e.g. getting thrown out of college, loosing girlfriend etc.)...

Then again, maybe he's unhappy in college and getting thrown out is for the better, or this is just "flirting with disaster" and he will get off his butt alone - who knows...

There was a similar discussion on reddit:
https://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/2xnn81/brother_is_addicted_to_dota2_trying_to_find_a_way/



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Offline Stranger
« Reply #4 - Posted 2015-11-26 11:45:31 »

Thank you for your сompassion, CommanderKeith.

It was quite plausible that he will be programmer until he discarded all the such thoughts and decided to go to 'commercial/management/sales' college.
It is very good that he make his choice himself, not like a puppet.

Anton
Offline Stranger
« Reply #5 - Posted 2015-11-26 12:13:31 »

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up2:
Irs not only adrenaline addiction,
its also communication addiction – like Stay all day in some Chat, Forum, social network
(and social network also have “find something new” addiction)
One-to-one, my case. They call themselves 'cyber-generation'.

Anton
Offline theagentd
« Reply #6 - Posted 2015-11-26 15:34:29 »

He won't stop playing Dota unless he wants to stop. It's the same with any addiction. You don't hide the alcohol to stop an alcoholic from drinking because they will just get it in some other way. If you technically block the game he will just see you as an enemy making it even harder to reach him.

Myomyomyo.
Offline Stranger
« Reply #7 - Posted 2015-11-26 17:28:15 »

Frankly, my worry is not only about his playing.
The worry is also about the fact that I'm forced to hear all his bla-bla-bla (chat) as well as wild screams like in jungles (gameplay) since I have to be in one room with him for a some time.
After that I leave the room with strong headache. 

Anton
Offline Gornova
« Reply #8 - Posted 2015-11-27 09:38:36 »

Frankly, my worry is not only about his playing.
The worry is also about the fact that I'm forced to hear all his bla-bla-bla (chat) as well as wild screams like in jungles (gameplay) since I have to be in one room with him for a some time.
After that I leave the room with strong headache. 


IMHO.

In short: stay close to your brother, try to understand his world and game, not find a way to disable DOTA

In long. I think your last message point that you have a problem with your brother, not he with DOTA. Frankly I'm not sure you try to understand (from your messages) his passions with game. Game are rewarding but also demands time. A lot!
How old is your brother? He's at school? University? Where the money and food come from ? Does he have a girlfriend? Does he have friends? How much real-world friends and how much in DOTA?
A friend of mine stay in WOW loop for three years before he leaves and even now talks about Wow, not the game, but about virtual friends from all over the world.

It's hard to understand but virtual relations could be powerful and meaningful in many ways.

And we are talking right now, "wasting time" on an online forum on line game. Maybe your brother cannot understand why you ask help or wasting time here, instead to go with him and play DOTA together Cheesy

A lot of questions, I know

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Offline gouessej
« Reply #9 - Posted 2015-11-27 14:55:33 »

Hi

In my humble opinion, there is no addiction to games, it can't be compared to alcohol but it doesn't mean that what Stranger describes doesn't exist. Games are only a kind of shelter or haven for his brother. Stranger doesn't try to find the root cause of the problem, he's just looking for a superficial workaround. There is something that forces his brother to protect himself from the "real" world.

Sometimes, I can play about 16 or even 18 hours a day. I can avoid playing video games for one year and an half. I have no addiction but I played a lot for years and it helped me to sustain, to keep myself alive. If somebody had prevented me from playing video games, I wouldn't have succeeded in bearing my daily life with people laughing about me since I was 2 years old. If Stranger helps his brother to solve his problems that force him to look for a shelter, his brother won't need this shelter as much as now.

I agree with Gornova. Stranger shouldn't treat gaming as a pure waste of time even though some practices might seem to be very destructive for the social life.

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Offline Stranger
« Reply #10 - Posted 2015-11-27 15:58:19 »

In short: stay close to your brother, try to understand his world and game, not find a way to disable DOTA

I'm trying to understand him all the time: Partial success.
What about the game ... I ain't gonna really block it. I just want to stop the gaming madness in the critical situation.

In long. I think your last message point that you have a problem with your brother, not he with DOTA. Frankly I'm not sure you try to understand (from your messages) his passions with game. Game are rewarding but also demands time. A lot!

I definitely have the problem with my brother as well as he definitely has the problem as gaming (especially Dota) addicted.
Imagine:
there's a crystal silence in the room.  it lasts half an hour, hour, suddenly:
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C-r-r-rap!!! Wadda hell?!! You, son of a bitch, what you're doing?!!! Where you're going now??!!! Stupid bastard!! Get f*ck you out of here!! Bitch!!!


and so on ... Even now when I'm writing, this the similar happen again ... "his passions"... it should rather think about his mental health ...

How old is your brother?

18 years old.

He's at school? University?

He's in college.

Where the money and food come from?

From parents.

Does he have a girlfriend?

AFAIK, not. Anyways, he is at home all the time.

Does he have friends? How much real-world friends and how much in DOTA?
A friend of mine stay in WOW loop for three years before he leaves and even now talks about Wow, not the game, but about virtual friends from all over the world.
He has. One real-world friend is from the college. A few friends are from the school. The rest are the DOTA-friends.

It's hard to understand but virtual relations could be powerful and meaningful in many ways.

And we are talking right now, "wasting time" on an online forum on line game. Maybe your brother cannot understand why you ask help or wasting time here, instead to go with him and play DOTA together Cheesy

A lot of questions, I know

Well, Excuse my familiarity but It seems to me that I speaking with a preacher ... "play DOTA together" ... Do you repeat this after all I posted here?

Anton
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« Reply #11 - Posted 2015-11-27 16:16:11 »

My uncle was addicted to a game similar to Dota, around 2004. He was holed up in his bedroom most of the day (keep in mind this isn't some 17 year old, but a 30something year old man with a wife and 3 kids). He eventually did quit, but it was on his own will, not by the urging of family or friends. He hasn't touched the game since ~2005. Your brother is the same way sort of. Nothing other than his own mental strength will make him quit. If he has the willpower to quit, good for him. If he doesn't, he'll eventually come to his senses in a few years, like my uncle.

Epilog: My cousin (uncle's kid) is now interested in a game similar to the one his father was hooked on. History repeats itself.

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Offline Gornova
« Reply #12 - Posted 2015-11-27 16:37:08 »

maybe I'll say play together.

I'm not a game addicted, at least not at this level (I'm 34 years old, btw). In the past I was into the Starcraft 2 loop, at least 2 hours at day, then watching matches on twitch. Then I stopped because, for me, was a waste of time, then right now I'm on game developing, because is more difficult and I get more satisfaction (but I have a work, so I'm forced to go outside!)

I'm not sure that could be right solution, but play together, into same room, help to understand that other people exists. And make breaks, drink a beer together, eat a pizza. If this work, go to a DOTA championship, with many people. I'm not sure you understand how big is the community around this kind of games (I mean, seems amazing for me!)

If your brother is at college and he's not a genius, he need time to study, then play DOTA. I'm asking you: how good are his grades ? In Italy is not possible to continue forever college without good grades, I think same everywhere, mainly because parents cuts money Cheesy

So? So for me your brother is not crazy. He is inside a loop, but without his will, there is no hope. He must understand what he's right for him.
It's hard for me to write it, and for you to read it, I know.
It's same for every addiction. You, as brother, can be a good support for him to understand how much he is throwing into this passion.

For me, life is an hard way into find an equilibrium between the world, me, other people. In my opinion your brother's life is out of this equilibrium, because as human we are not able to live without friends, love and passions, or better, it's really hard.


Bonus Cheesy

A sister of my ex girlfriend 21 years, is in a similar situation.
It's all started when she finished the college. Few friends, no really "big" relationship with anyone. Then her parents don't force her to find a job.
So for the last three years, she wasted her incredible 18,19,20 and 21 years. I mean, it's incredible years for anyone.. but she don't do .. NOTHING.
She wake up every morning, watch tv, read a lot of books about vampires, eat, play video games (she was forced to use only one hour of internet connection for week, at local library), read, eat, watch tv, go to bad.
She's depressed, it's clear. After first year, her parents force her to go to a psychologist in order to understand why she don't want to find a job, a man, friends (like everyone else, one could say). This path go to nothing, in my opinion because her psychologist is not able to help here.
With my ex-girlfriend we tried first to propose here to go outside, but she don't like our friend too much and in particular she don't like to talk first. Then I've tried to help here with role-playing games.. but she didn't talk too much. Then she find her way in a local live role playing group (Vampire the masquerade one, btw).
It's a difficult path, but for what I know requires a lot of time.

Personally, my father told me in order to understand what is life, you have to earn it (a bit of background. My father was born in 1938 and live after WW2 in Italy, with no father and 7 brothers.. so I think it's bit different for everyone)

So, using my father words..
1) let your brother play with DOTA for next six months. Work on relationship with him, be brother, together, even with little things (eat together, try to go outside, at mall, with common friends, make a small trip outside, ask his help with no pressure, invite women at home etc..)
2) if after six months it's not working, talk to him, try to understand why DOTA is soo much important to him. Don't put preconception. Just listen. Don't talk. Listen. It's soooooooooooo much important for anyone, even if you think your brother is crazy
3) ask for help. With parents, with common friends. Don't ask on forum. People around you can help you. Seems strange no? Trust me, people from your house, city, country can understand you and your brother better than me
4) If I'm your father for last resort, I will cut money. Without money, there is no internet connection, no food, no DOTA. Wake up brother, life is hard. But for last solution!

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Offline Drenius
« Reply #13 - Posted 2015-11-27 16:44:50 »

Imagine:
there's a crystal silence in the room.  it lasts half an hour, hour, suddenly:
Quote
C-r-r-rap!!! Wadda hell?!! You, son of a bitch, what you're doing?!!! Where you're going now??!!! Stupid bastard!! Get f*ck you out of here!! Bitch!!!


Well... that may so far be something disturbing you, but doesn't really show any problem at all because... well, he is obviously playing the game, and you being surpised comes more from the fact that you are not watching what is happening there...

Are you sure you can call it an addiction already? How long has he been playing the game that excessively?
If it hasn't been long yet, it might just as well (as pointed out before) fade at some point, being just a little obsession.

Try to make sure to understand well what you are talking about, not only from your, but also from his position, before you do anything about it.

In any way, cutting the connection is not what you want to do, it would probably only make him want it more.
Offline gouessej
« Reply #14 - Posted 2015-11-27 18:23:37 »

he definitely has the problem as gaming (especially Dota) addicted.
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Offline theagentd
« Reply #15 - Posted 2015-11-27 18:39:26 »

While I can agree that trying to understand what he's doing more by playing with him could be a good idea, that may not be easy when it comes to Dota. Games like Dota, LoL and HoN all have relatively steep learning curves and rather toxic communities (in the sense that people often flame each other). There's a reason why MOBAs are said to destroy lots of friendships. xd That being said, they can still be wonderful if played with the right people. I have some very fond memories of playing with friends, both IRL and those that I've met online, and I even met my girlfriend through people I have gotten to know through LoL.

What I want to say is that it's a difficult situation. A compromise could be looking up some streams/commentators on various DotA tournament games and possibly asking your brother to watch them with you. That way you may be able to understand the game more and reconnect with him without having to spend half your life getting to his DotA playing level. If your brother is into watching those games then that could be a better way to start.

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Offline Stranger
« Reply #16 - Posted 2015-11-29 14:58:39 »

Hi everyone.

Thank you for your replies!

@gouessej
Stranger shouldn't treat gaming as a pure waste of time even though some practices might seem to be very destructive for the social life.

I never told that I deem the gaming is the waste of time. I rather meant that еxcessive gaming is harmful as the waste of time, as the threat for health (both for gamer (excessive irascibility) and for his family: sudden wild cries may cause increasing of the blood pressure even may trigger heart-attack) and as the threat for social life, total gaming to the detriment of real life needs.

Quote
Some state that gamers sometimes use video games to either escape from an uncomfortable environment or alleviate their already existing mental issues - both possibly important aspects on determining the psychological impact of gaming.
It's so easy to reject any responsibility.

I don't reject any responsibility.

@Gornova
If your brother is at college and he's not a genius, he need time to study, then play DOTA. I'm asking you: how good are his grades ? In Italy is not possible to continue forever college without good grades, I think same everywhere, mainly because parents cuts money Cheesy

He's spending time for college study to play (mainly DOTA).
His grades is minimal, just to allow continue studying. Parents play full price for studying as well as for the re-exams.

So? So for me your brother is not crazy. He is inside a loop, but without his will, there is no hope. He must understand what he's right for him.

I didn't say he's crazy. He's rather excessive irritable, especially when playing

@Drenius
Are you sure you can call it an addiction already? How long has he been playing the game that excessively?
If it hasn't been long yet, it might just as well (as pointed out before) fade at some point, being just a little obsession.

So excessively ~2 years .
He's playing DOTA since the fall of 2013. In beginning of 2014 he uses voice chat. Now he is more silent. I hope it's kinda fade out


Anton
Offline Icecore
« Reply #17 - Posted 2015-11-29 17:05:45 »

Is he play dota original?
I recommend give him link to Dota 2 reborn – its something like war 3 custom maps
There are many fun maps

+ its better to play in “DOTA 2 REBORN Overthrow”
Its better original dota – lees unmanner in chat (in brain) + more fast
(15 min fast match – its really hard to play all day long in this ^^)

Ask his opinion about custom maps in Dota, maybe play with him in TD, puzzle games in Dota reborn etc..

Maybe problem in "hi think become pro gamer" - BAD BAD BAD BAD.. IDEA
tournaments have crap reword system - only 5-10 first places from thousands have money reword
all else 995+ ppl receive noting

p.s
Parents pay full price for studying as well as for the re-exams.
So happy - happy man ^^

pp.s if he really have a dream to make money from playing games
- i recommend try game streaming
it have more chances to earn money then receive them playing dota

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« Reply #18 - Posted 2015-11-29 18:57:51 »

Is he play dota original?
I recommend give him link to Dota 2 reborn – its something like war 3 custom maps
There are many fun maps
+ its better to play in “DOTA 2 REBORN Overthrow”

AFAIK he plays in newest DOTA 2.

Maybe problem in "hi think become pro gamer" - BAD BAD BAD BAD.. IDEA
tournaments have crap reword system - only 5-10 first places from thousands have money reword
all else 995+ ppl receive noting

He proudly says he's DOTA pro and also told about earning money this way.


p.s
Parents pay full price for studying as well as for the re-exams.
So happy - happy man ^^

He repeats all the time that he's deep in ass. Undecided

Anton
Offline Icecore
« Reply #19 - Posted 2015-11-29 20:18:28 »

AFAIK he plays in newest DOTA 2.
DOTA 2 and Dota 2 Reborn = are different game platforms ^^

DOTA 2 - is MOBA like Dota, LoL etc - its One map
DOTA 2 Reborn - is UMS Maps Hub - with custom players Maps (like source engine only for RTS games/maps)
http://www.dota2.com/reborn/part2

Try switch him on UMS maps ^^

p.s Valve do big mistake calling maps Hub "Dota 2 Reborn" – it's confuse
if shi only call it "Source RTS Hub"..

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« Reply #20 - Posted 2015-11-30 03:09:47 »

AFAIK he plays in newest DOTA 2.
DOTA 2 and Dota 2 Reborn = are different game platforms ^^

Dota 2 Reborn was the name of the new client and update to Dota 2.

Offline Stranger
« Reply #21 - Posted 2015-11-30 05:01:45 »

He said he plays in Dota 2 Reborn.

Anton
Offline ShadedVertex
« Reply #22 - Posted 2015-11-30 07:18:25 »

Does it matter what he's playing? Whatever it is, he's spending too much time on it. I think someone on this thread mentioned this before, but try to get him addicted to developing games instead. If you ask me, both playing games and making them are equally addictive. However, playing games often seems more fun because it's like plants and animals: plants produce, animals consume. In this scenario, gamers are the consumers and game devvies are the producers. My mom introduced me to this analogy back when I was addicted to Minecraft. It took me a while to come to my senses; that is to say, I eventually got bored of playing games and decided to make some of my own so that people could look at my games and say, "Hey, that's pretty cool!".

"Get him addicted to making games"...putting it that way makes it sound almost simple, because it isn't simple, not at all. You have to psychologically wrench him away from his addiction to games. When you look at game trailers, they put you in a sort of trance: "That game is so cool, I want it!". You have to do the same thing, except with game development programs like Unreal Engine. Show your brother Unreal Engine showcase reels and say stuff like: "Wouldn't it be great to make our own games?" or "That looks amazing! You should try making games sometimes."
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« Reply #23 - Posted 2015-11-30 07:40:48 »

Dota 2 Reborn was the name of the new client and update to Dota 2.
Technically yes)
conceptual : valve not call Source engine "CS GO Reborn"

He said he plays in Dota 2 Reborn.
So.. Well, i Tried.

However, playing games often seems more fun because it's like plants and animals: plants produce, animals consume. In this scenario, gamers are the consumers and game devvies are the producers.
I like this comparison Wink
Game developers(animals) create something for players (plants)
let it be mystery - what XD
(CO2 or ...)

"Wouldn't it be great to make our own games?" or "That looks amazing! You should try making games sometimes."
evil joke
Yes - show him minecraft and say "hi also can make game and earn billions" - in many cases its works =)

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« Reply #24 - Posted 2015-11-30 13:21:55 »

How old are you?

Back when I was in college (I'm American, so I guess I mean "back when I was at university"), I had a group of friends who played dota and WoW ALL THE TIME. It's all they talked about. The only friends they seemed to make were from the game. They would play instead of studying or doing homework. Your brother sounds a lot like them.

But here's the thing: most of those people now have successful careers, wives, houses, kids, etc. They're doing fine.

So I maybe wouldn't worry too much about it. If you're really that worried about it, try to invite him to some of your social activities.

But it sounds more like you're annoyed with the noise he makes while he's playing- maybe get a nice pair of earphones for yourself? Or a nerf gun you can shoot him with when he's being too loud?

If you really want to try blocking dota, just go to the settings page for your router...

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« Reply #25 - Posted 2015-11-30 13:56:03 »

Dota2 is a hell of an addicting game. I started about 3 years ago, and as soon as you really learn the game, not only the rewards get better you also feel you have spent to much time learning it to just give up. Because the learning curve is so freaking steep. You need 3-4 months of playing before you'll actually understand a tournament match that is being broadcast.

I was a very productive game developer (see my projects here) and I almost stoped at all writing games, surprise, 3 years ago. I eventually (after about 2 years) realized how much time I lost with this shit, and how I was scheduling my activities in terms of "how many dota 2 matches I'll have left today if I do this or that".

After I realized this, I went back to gamedev (you'll soon see my project here Smiley ), and I still play Dota 2 but far far less. To be fair, I didn't "realize it" actually. I got a lot of complaints from my wife before I snapped Smiley

Long story short @Stranger: Until he realizes he's wasting his youth with last hits and ganks, he won't stop. Blocking your routers will only make him highly frustrated and will hate you when he finds out. As many other people here said, the best thing is to try to show that 14 hours of dota per day IS a waste of time, he can be doing so many other fun things with his life.

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« Reply #26 - Posted 2015-11-30 14:04:56 »

Hi

In my humble opinion, there is no addiction to games, it can't be compared to alcohol but it doesn't mean that what Stranger describes doesn't exist. Games are only a kind of shelter or haven for his brother. Stranger doesn't try to find the root cause of the problem, he's just looking for a superficial workaround. There is something that forces his brother to protect himself from the "real" world.
I'm a bit surprise to hear this from you. Denying that some addiction is not real is a very right oriented line of thought. It does not match your super leftist and (supposedly) empathic personality. It's not just because you can't get addicted to games it doesn't mean it does not exist.
Addiction to anything can be perceived when there's a repetition of some destructive behavior in search of an instant and short termed reward. If he dropped out of college, has no social life, leads a completely sedentary life, all of this caused by the repetitive instant reward of winning a dota match, that looks pretty much like an addiction.

It's not that he's not to blame - everybody should be responsible for their own acts - but denying that it exists just because you don't experience it, it seems to me very short sighted. Addictive behavior IS a genetic trait - being it to alcohol, cocaine or Dota 2.
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« Reply #27 - Posted 2015-11-30 15:19:58 »

Hi

In my humble opinion, there is no addiction to games, it can't be compared to alcohol but it doesn't mean that what Stranger describes doesn't exist. Games are only a kind of shelter or haven for his brother. Stranger doesn't try to find the root cause of the problem, he's just looking for a superficial workaround. There is something that forces his brother to protect himself from the "real" world.
I'm a bit surprise to hear this from you. Denying that some addiction is not real is a very right oriented line of thought. It does not match your super leftist and (supposedly) empathic personality. It's not just because you can't get addicted to games it doesn't mean it does not exist.
I know that English isn't my mother tongue but there is a serious misunderstanding.

At first, I talked about myself mainly to explain that it's totally possible to play a lot sometimes and to be in a good mental health. I wanted to explain that the video games can be used as a shelter to work around some other psychological or social problems.

Secondly, I wrote "it doesn't mean that what Stranger describes doesn't exist". Therefore, I don't understand why you wrote "It's not just because you can't get addicted to games it doesn't mean it does not exist". An addiction is a compulsive physiological and psychological need whereas there is no physiological need in this case, your definition of the word "addiction" differs from the medical definition. Games aren't guilty, the real problem is deeper. Why did his brother choose to use video games as a shelter? You attacked me on my political opinions because you lack of stronger arguments and because what I wrote bothers you.

At least 25% of the population in my country consume some antidepressants, it allows the capitalist industry to earn a lot of money from the sadness of the people, the situation is similar with anxiolytics, Xanax is the 12th most sold medicine in the world. Those substances aren't used to drive people happy on the long term, they are used to ensure that they are still productive because the capitalist system doesn't accept that people need a lot of time to solve their psychological problems. Those substances are addictive. If the capitalists want to earn much more money, they will prefer people not to solve their problems and it's exactly what you do, you needed your wife to stop playing too much, it's easier for you to blame video games instead of trying to find what was wrong in your life to encourage you to spend so much time in playing with a game. I remember hearing about some parents complaining that their children spent too much time in playing video games because it was so easier that admitting that they weren't good parents, that they spend too much time at work to earn more and more money in order to consume more and more. Come back to Earth, we all make some mistakes, admitting it is the first step to go forth and avoid reproducing them again and again.

he can be doing so many other fun things with his life.
Is his current life outside gaming fun? I think that it's an important question.

Julien Gouesse | Personal blog | Website | Jogamp
Offline gouessej
« Reply #28 - Posted 2015-11-30 15:37:15 »

Stranger shouldn't treat gaming as a pure waste of time even though some practices might seem to be very destructive for the social life.

I never told that I deem the gaming is the waste of time. I rather meant that еxcessive gaming is harmful as the waste of time, as the threat for health (both for gamer (excessive irascibility) and for his family: sudden wild cries may cause increasing of the blood pressure even may trigger heart-attack) and as the threat for social life, total gaming to the detriment of real life needs.
You consider that it's a waste of time, he probably disagrees with you. There isn't only one single path to happiness, he has the right to have other priorities than the social life, especially if there is something wrong in this part of his life. However, it's really problematic when his very intense gaming harms his body, his mind and those of his family.

Julien Gouesse | Personal blog | Website | Jogamp
Offline Stranger
« Reply #29 - Posted 2015-11-30 15:42:52 »

How old are you?

I'm too young to die.  Wink

But it sounds more like you're annoyed with the noise he makes while he's playing- maybe get a nice pair of earphones for yourself? Or a nerf gun you can shoot him with when he's being too loud?

If he's screaming he does that so loudly that no earphones save you from being hurt. If you in another room you're damaged less. Besides, he's usually playing through the night starting usually at 3-5 pm ... though playing schedule varies in wide spectrum.

I really worry about his future. I wrote above posts which you meant just while he has demonstrated his voice power and language's taboo knowledge.
 
If you really want to try blocking dota, just go to the settings page for your router...

I did this and other actions for a few years starting from Parental Control (Windows / Kaspersky IS / Parental Control Software). All this stuff good for children looking for "ANY KEY" at keyboard Smiley .

So, I've discarded any plans to block games by technical means as a main strategy.

Anton
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