Damocles
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Reply #360 on:
2012-01-30 03:55:20 » |
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how about a minesweeper with 2 type of mines, (magnetic and pressure)
each having its own number.
Bomberman is also a simple, but fun gametype.
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Shazer2
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Reply #361 on:
2012-01-30 06:07:45 » |
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More suggestions please. You give good suggestions, but I don't like them two. They are different to the usuals I get told though. ~Shazer2  |
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Damocles
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Reply #362 on:
2012-01-30 06:29:12 » |
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A very simple version of settlers.
(Chunked down tech-tree)
-woodcutter (maked wood, needs tools)
-stoneminer (makes stone, needs tools)
-farm (needs space, time and peons working on it, makes food)
-mine (needs food, and tools, makes ore)
-smith (makes tools, weapons, needs ore and wood)
-house (needs food, makes peons)
-baracks(needs weapons, makes soldiers)
-sorage-space
-shipyard-> needs lots of tools and wood, to make a ship to leave this place
-maybe a "trader" where you can use looted gold to buy resources
so the techtree is simple enough not to take too long to get it. The main fun should be in fighting critters and other settler
and exploring the world/ settling in a new area
Can be done in 2D, and dowes not really need fancy pathfinding, if you keep the area mostly passable.
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EveningNewbs
JGO n00b Posts: 10
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Reply #363 on:
2012-02-14 21:02:48 » |
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I hope I'm not necro-ing this thread, but I have a question: how do Desura sales figures compare to Steam sales and sales through your website? I'd assume it would be way lower than Steam, but how much lower, I have no idea.
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princec
« League of Dukes » JGO Kernel  Posts: 8086 Medals: 94
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Reply #364 on:
2012-02-15 04:30:37 » |
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Steam: 100k sales Desura: 50 sales Same time period. Cas |
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ReBirth
JGO Wizard Posts: 1272 Medals: 19
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Reply #365 on:
2012-02-15 05:50:33 » |
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I hope I'm not necro-ing this thread I doubt this thread would die |
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ra4king
JGO Kernel Posts: 3155 Medals: 196
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Reply #366 on:
2012-02-15 12:02:48 » |
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Steam: 100k sales Desura: 50 sales Same time period. Cas WOW Desura is virtually non-existant!  |
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delt0r
Sr. Member Posts: 412 Medals: 12
Computers can do that?
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Reply #367 on:
2012-02-15 12:12:24 » |
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Well its a bit like making a good social network *after* facebook. Its not really going to work until facebook does something really stupid, well not if you want "most users". Same here... Being a bit better than steam is not going to be enough. I can't see steam doing anything stupid in the near future either. They are thee online pc game platform. Its not like they don't give a good deal to developers either.
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EveningNewbs
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Reply #368 on:
2012-02-15 14:33:39 » |
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Steam: 100k sales Desura: 50 sales Same time period. Cas Ouch. I wonder how different that would be if you weren't on Steam. Probably not much. |
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Mr_Light
JGO Strike Force Posts: 893
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Reply #369 on:
2012-02-19 11:22:19 » |
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1. Molebox.. and, er.. no  Though not for much longer. Steam won't be Moleboxed, nor the next release of Revenge, as I want to make it easier to mod and patch. So what do you use now? Do you think Jigsaw will change anything here? |
It's harder to read code than to write it. - it's even harder to write readable code.
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princec
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Reply #370 on:
2012-02-19 18:10:39 » |
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Don't use Molebox. Jigsaw, as far as I'm concerned, was too little, too late. Cas |
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Mr_Light
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Reply #371 on:
2012-02-19 18:22:31 » |
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Don't use Molebox. Jigsaw, as far as I'm concerned, was too little, too late. Cas That doesn't really answer what you use instead  Just curious, do you use any languages other then java on the jvm? Aye, and of course many thanks for sharing your wisdom |
It's harder to read code than to write it. - it's even harder to write readable code.
The gospel of brother Riven: "The guarantee that all bugs are in *your* code is worth gold." Amen brother a-m-e-n.
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princec
« League of Dukes » JGO Kernel Posts: 8086 Medals: 94
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Reply #372 on:
2012-02-19 18:30:55 » |
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I don't use anything at all - have a look for yourself! Just an embedded JRE 7 on Windows. I use a tiny bit of C++ to make the launcher but that's the only other language involved other than plain old Java. Cas |
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EveningNewbs
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Reply #373 on:
2012-02-19 18:38:01 » |
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I don't use anything at all - have a look for yourself! Just an embedded JRE 7 on Windows. I use a tiny bit of C++ to make the launcher but that's the only other language involved other than plain old Java. Cas So you distribute a copy of the JRE with the game? What's the benefit to that as opposed to using the one they have installed (assuming they have one installed)? |
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ReBirth
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Reply #374 on:
2012-02-19 21:16:46 » |
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And how to make such kind distributed jre plus exe file?  |
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ra4king
JGO Kernel Posts: 3155 Medals: 196
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Reply #375 on:
2012-02-19 22:23:30 » |
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I don't use anything at all - have a look for yourself! Just an embedded JRE 7 on Windows. I use a tiny bit of C++ to make the launcher but that's the only other language involved other than plain old Java. Cas So you distribute a copy of the JRE with the game? What's the benefit to that as opposed to using the one they have installed (assuming they have one installed)? This is mostly done for Macs and Ubuntu since Java is no longer pre-installed on the latest OS version. This is also for ease of use for developers, since now they have a version to code against, instead of trusting a potentially unreliable JVM installed like the whole Oracle JRE vs OpenJDK debacle. |
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kappa
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Reply #376 on:
2012-02-20 01:38:14 » |
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And how to make such kind distributed jre plus exe file? . |
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delt0r
Sr. Member Posts: 412 Medals: 12
Computers can do that?
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Reply #377 on:
2012-02-20 04:24:01 » |
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There is a big advantage in providing your own JRE even if the target platform has one. First its the JRE you have tested on and second any system updates that may update their JRE won't touch yours.
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princec
« League of Dukes » JGO Kernel Posts: 8086 Medals: 94
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Reply #378 on:
2012-02-20 04:39:58 » |
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Yes, precisely that. It's a known quantity, and it's also guaranteed to be there! It's bad enough attempting to rely on working graphics drivers which scupper a fairly large (30%) of installs as it is on Windows. Though I had one problem the other day which was utterly baffling but fortunately the customer found out what it was - an environment variable pointed some classpath or other somewhere bizarre causing nothing to work, which was a bit of a surprise (and a monster pain). Does anyone know of a commandline arg to Java that stops it reading certain env vars? I will be switching to an embedded JVM on Linux and MacOS when OpenJDK 7 has matured enough on those platforms - mostly just for conistency rather than anything else. Cas |
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Roquen
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Reply #379 on:
2012-02-20 05:59:55 » |
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You can locally clear the environment variables inside your launcher.
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princec
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Reply #380 on:
2012-02-20 06:16:07 » |
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You can locally clear the environment variables inside your launcher.
Oooh how do I do that? Cas |
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Roquen
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Reply #381 on:
2012-02-20 07:54:18 » |
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SetEnvironmentVariable changes the value for the local process. My brain isn't pulling up the UNIX equivalent.
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delt0r
Sr. Member Posts: 412 Medals: 12
Computers can do that?
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Reply #382 on:
2012-02-20 08:08:31 » |
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Under Unix the launching script can clear/set everything you want for just that process. Since i use a launching script for both mac and linux, I think this could work well for those platforms.
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Roquen
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Reply #383 on:
2012-02-20 08:19:34 » |
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That works as well. But since Cas has an exe, it's kinda a shame to have a script calling setenv then executing rather than just doing it programmatically.
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princec
« League of Dukes » JGO Kernel Posts: 8086 Medals: 94
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Reply #384 on:
2012-02-20 08:25:42 » |
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The exe's only for Windows, so no great shakes. Cas |
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EveningNewbs
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Reply #385 on:
2012-02-20 10:41:09 » |
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So if you want to run it in 64-bit mode you need to distribute a separate package? That's kind of a bummer.
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Cero
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Reply #386 on:
2012-02-20 11:24:31 » |
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So if you want to run it in 64-bit mode you need to distribute a separate package? That's kind of a bummer.
32bit stuff works on 64bit pc / OS' just not the other way around |
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EveningNewbs
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Reply #387 on:
2012-02-20 12:01:20 » |
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So if you want to run it in 64-bit mode you need to distribute a separate package? That's kind of a bummer.
32bit stuff works on 64bit pc / OS' just not the other way around I know that, but you're missing out on performance increases of running on 64-bit if you only offer a 32-bit version. |
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princec
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Reply #388 on:
2012-02-20 12:02:55 » |
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Not really, in our case. Cas |
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Riven
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Reply #389 on:
2012-02-20 13:24:28 » |
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I know that, but you're missing out on performance increases of running on 64-bit if you only offer a 32-bit version.
I am not aware of a performance increase running under 64 bit. Hardly any application takes advantage of the native performance of 64 bit integers, while every application takes the burden of wider references reducing overall (effective) throughput. |
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