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Offline opiop65

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« Reply #30 - Posted 2014-01-20 20:31:50 »

I never meant to anger you Andre. I am simply trying to get you to figure things out on your own. You have 64 topics created on this forum, yet many of them could be figured out by yourself with a little bit of work. I am not trying to insult you, so I have no idea why you are insulting me, but really come on.

Offline HeroesGraveDev

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« Reply #31 - Posted 2014-01-20 21:18:58 »

JGO KERNEL ==  JGO STUPID ARROGANT TROLL.

princec, ra4king, theagentd, Eli Deventhal, teletubo, kappa, sproingie, davedes, Nate, Rebirth, Jimmt, kevglass, Orangy Tang, opiop65, me. (I may have missed one or two from the list)

That's an awful lot of people you're insulting there for no reason.

Have you ever stopped and wondered if the reason you keep getting responses like this is because you're doing something wrong? And that these people who you ignore and insult lots of the time are actually trying to put you on the right track?

One thing I have noticed in my time here on JGO is that irrelevant of skill or the type of questions being asked, the aggressive people usually get into situations like this because they can't step back and just let a thread die. The easiest way to stop a thread collapsing into a flame war is to stop posting.

So here's my recommendation to you:

#1: Don't be so aggressive. Be nice to people and they'll be nice to you.
#2: Think twice before posting. Even when you've spent a while typing out a long rant, it may be better just to close the tab and let it slide.
#3: If a thread is going downhill, post a reasonable and calm final response, and leave it at that.
#4: Accept that everyone makes mistakes, and remember that also includes yourself.
#5: If you think someone is trolling you, either ignore them, or ask them to clarify what they said.

Offline Andre Lopes
« Reply #32 - Posted 2014-01-20 21:34:15 »

Yeah its awesome to victimize them when they are insulted, but when a single person is, nothing is said.

I was just asking a question that is really an enigma for me right now.
I dont know how is the schools in Europe/America in 1st world countries.Far as i know, they have programming and computer stuff.
I didnt have any of that, all that i learned, including my english, was by myself.

Logic and Programming was always a b for me, because i want to know how everything is made from the ground.
"why is boolean a String "true"/"false", why we use binaries? how the machines know how to identify binaries?
That was all my questions when i started, was all very confusing and when i did start, sometimes i thought it was magic haha.

So When i finnally learned , i was kinda happy.

Thats why i buy books, watch every dermetfan YT tutorial.Because i like how he explains things and i can figure it out how badlogicgames built it.I keep wondering how did they build it , etc.

I also help others in my personal life with code and logic, and i never make fun of them and i always encourage them even when i know they lack the skills for it.
Because i do bealive in them, being my friends,family, brothers etc.

And when i help them in anyway, i feel happy about it.And im proud of that. I fix my pc neighbours for free when they need to. Sometimes is just a Google Chrome extension malfunction ,other times i have to analyze a windows minidump.But always i do.

If you dont bealive it, you can come over and ask my name around, im not actually arrogant about it or want to make my name.Its just who i am.I cant stop to help others.

Here in forum, its hard to help because mostly the issues are out of my knowledge range, yet.But i do try.

"princec, ra4king, theagentd, Eli Deventhal, teletubo, kappa, sproingie, davedes, Nate, Rebirth, Jimmt, kevglass, Orangy Tang",Im really sorry to insult you guys including Heroes which helped me a lot of times, but this opiop really pissed me off and i wont edit the post so everyone can see that i do make mistakes like any human does.And im sorry for raging out.

If you want me out of forum just pm me and im out.I know the forum is a privilege, and i didnt mean to go out and offend everyone else, but its bad to see this kind of act.

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Offline HeroesGraveDev

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« Reply #33 - Posted 2014-01-20 21:42:55 »

Nobody wants you gone. Pointing We just want you to learn from your mistakes.

Sometimes when people get frustrated at seeing the same question repeated again and again, they can come across the wrong way, and when one person asks a lot of questions that have already been answered elsewhere, that can push someone (eg: opiop) over the edge in the same way that responses like opiop's push you over the edge.

I think that's the best way of explaining it.

Offline ctomni231

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Not a glitch. Just have a lil' pixelexia...


« Reply #34 - Posted 2014-01-20 21:45:37 »

Don't be discouraged, Andre.

Programming is a very challenging course to take on. Given that you are learning it from scratch, I can definitely relate to the struggles that you are going through while trying to learn the advanced techniques. If I were to advise you, it would be to not expect to be an expert quickly. I realize that you do ask plenty of questions to further your knowledge for yourself and others in this forum. In some ways, I feel that what you are doing will help others figure out how to achieve higher learning.

However, there is the other side of the coin that people would think you are not taking time outside of the forum to do the research required. Even though your intentions are good, some will fail to understand the intent and instead think you are "cluttering" the forums.

The best thing to do is to ignore those people, or to lead them on the right path.

If you were to start up one thread to handle all of your questions, it would actually create a much better environment for you getting answers as they will be able to "track" your progress and realize that you are going through a journey. In reality, practice always makes perfect. Showing people that you are improving will make them less likely to post "search Google" comments.

Anyway, I hope that these things move past the community and move forward. It really is awful to have drama like this on forums for people, like Andre, who are trying to improve their skills.

Offline quew8

JGO Coder


Medals: 29



« Reply #35 - Posted 2014-01-20 21:57:10 »

I agree with @HeroesGraveDev - we are all guilty of something and we all occasionally rub someone up the wrong way often as a result of frustration. It's not the best state of affairs but is an unfortunate side effect of being human and, just as being human, none can deny it. We are all of us jointly responsible so I think the greatest offence is to try to point the finger at individuals. It merely reflects badly on oneself.

No I think this thread has moved truly beyond both its initial scope and its usefulness. Perhaps we should return back or merely let it lie.
Offline Andre Lopes
« Reply #36 - Posted 2014-01-20 22:05:27 »

Don't be discouraged, Andre.

Programming is a very challenging course to take on. Given that you are learning it from scratch, I can definitely relate to the struggles that you are going through while trying to learn the advanced techniques. If I were to advise you, it would be to not expect to be an expert quickly. I realize that you do ask plenty of questions to further your knowledge for yourself and others in this forum. In some ways, I feel that what you are doing will help others figure out how to achieve higher learning.

However, there is the other side of the coin that people would think you are not taking time outside of the forum to do the research required. Even though your intentions are good, some will fail to understand the intent and instead think you are "cluttering" the forums.

The best thing to do is to ignore those people, or to lead them on the right path.

If you were to start up one thread to handle all of your questions, it would actually create a much better environment for you getting answers as they will be able to "track" your progress and realize that you are going through a journey. In reality, practice always makes perfect. Showing people that you are improving will make them less likely to post "search Google" comments.

Anyway, I hope that these things move past the community and move forward. It really is awful to have drama like this on forums for people, like Andre, who are trying to improve their skills.


Thanks for both of you replies.
Im really sorry to go out here, in a place where people helped me and attack them.Makes me feel like i dont appreciate the help and a total douchebag.

But in reality its just frustration.Im really researching this openGl thing.And im amazed by all its math and physics.Im starting to get a hang of it, but since i never coded openGl, except for libgdx wrap, its all news.

Im not making excuses, just stating facts.
Nowadays, i can simply go javadoc and figure it out a lot of things by myself.
Like when i posted about ClassLoaders. I was able to load a class Heroes!
Im using Reflection in my game so users can mod it!

I never thought i could reach here, and i am! So i just ask that someday i might help someone as i was helped.But for that i must be really good so i dont dissapoint whoever im helping, and for some reason, i always think that im not good enough...

Well casualties of war i suppose, we all make sacrifices.

But thanks guys! Smiley I will be here firm and strong!

I know this might sound dull but if need anything, just ask/pm/smoke signal etc.


Offline jonjava
« Reply #37 - Posted 2014-01-20 22:51:45 »


Offline Andre Lopes
« Reply #38 - Posted 2014-01-21 01:24:30 »

My only reply for Jon, is this :

Offline wessles

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Radirius Software Lead Developer


« Reply #39 - Posted 2014-01-21 01:42:33 »

I have no idea what you are implying by this. I must be stupid.  Clueless

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Offline kpars

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Extreme Typist.


« Reply #40 - Posted 2014-01-21 01:52:00 »

Click to Play


Keep on going guys... Keep on going with your silly flame wars.

- Jev

Offline HeroesGraveDev

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« Reply #41 - Posted 2014-01-21 01:52:05 »

Depending on the surroundings, it's potentially impossible to take them away without spilling water everywhere.

If it is a raised surface, you could slide it off the edge and use a container to collect the water, but by the picture, it doesn't look like it is.

As for what he's implying, he's creating a mess for someone else to clean up? Idk.

Offline opiop65

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« Reply #42 - Posted 2014-01-21 02:13:08 »

I'm sorry Andre I was just venting and I shouldn't have. It won't happen again, and I realize its difficult for some people to learn, so I should respect that.

Offline princec

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Eh? Who? What? ... Me?


« Reply #43 - Posted 2014-01-21 09:36:35 »

I am immune to insults! Baptism in fire from Alien Flux saw to that.

Cas Smiley

Offline Andre Lopes
« Reply #44 - Posted 2014-01-22 01:04:54 »

Depending on the surroundings, it's potentially impossible to take them away without spilling water everywhere.

If it is a raised surface, you could slide it off the edge and use a container to collect the water, but by the picture, it doesn't look like it is.

As for what he's implying, he's creating a mess for someone else to clean up? Idk.

NO !

Im not creating a mess, i just found that image and i thought how the hell did he do that.

I think he put put cup with ice in the table ?

Seems funny!

But no, i just found a random image guys! I have no intention to create havoc here.

I love you all.Except opiop.

Smiley XD
Offline HeroesGraveDev

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« Reply #45 - Posted 2014-01-22 01:07:56 »

That's actually quite a fun prank to pull on people.

You get a bottle or something, fill it with water, then get flat, smooth object, place it over the opening, and flip it over.
Take it to its target destination, place it down, remove the object covering the opening, creating as little spillage as possible, and then walk off.

Offline opiop65

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« Reply #46 - Posted 2014-01-22 01:12:13 »

Andre I said I'm sorry, I don't know if you are serious about hating me Sad *cries*

Offline wessles

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« Reply #47 - Posted 2014-01-22 02:28:17 »

I have to say, Andre. You sure hold a grudge. I predict that by 2 months from now, Andre will still remember. See you then guys!

Offline opiop65

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« Reply #48 - Posted 2014-01-22 02:40:49 »

I'm quite hurt Sad

Offline Slyth2727
« Reply #49 - Posted 2014-01-22 02:57:12 »



 Roll Eyes

Was I before Chuang Tzu who dreamt about being a butterfly, or am I now a butterfly who dreams about being Chuang Tzu?
Offline HeroesGraveDev

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« Reply #50 - Posted 2014-01-22 03:16:58 »


Offline kramin42
« Reply #51 - Posted 2014-01-22 03:40:34 »

Click to Play

"All science is either physics or stamp collecting." - Ernest Rutherford.
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Offline opiop65

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« Reply #52 - Posted 2014-01-22 03:41:51 »

Posted that GIF on iFunny a while ago.

Offline wessles

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« Reply #53 - Posted 2014-01-22 14:06:53 »

No need to fear! Relevant reply!

I think that it is great that we don't judge based on rank. It is good to give all new members a chance to prove themselves as a great developer early on, or show that they need help! In fact, I think that rank is pretty pointless, since just being here a bit can get people high ranked. I think that it should just be medals, since rank is distracting from it.

tldr; great forum with unbiased people, but thinks rank should be eliminated and more emphasis put on medals

Just a thought, for a derailed thread
-wes

Online Riven
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Hand over your head.


« Reply #54 - Posted 2014-01-22 15:42:09 »

Don't look for too much meaning in things nobody cares about. A rank is the defacto forum gimmick.

Rank in SMF was purely based on post-count.
Rank in JGO is based on post-count, medals, published games and whether I escorted you to the padded room.

The algorithm behind it is highly suspicious, but I'm confident that it gives a 'fair' representation of a vague concept. Move along people. People with high ranks are holding a meeting about you, in a barrel.


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Offline Damocles
« Reply #55 - Posted 2014-01-22 16:00:44 »

is the algorythm like this ?

rank-count = post-count +  medals-count + number of published games

Online Riven
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Hand over your head.


« Reply #56 - Posted 2014-01-22 16:06:45 »

Not even close. Emo

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Offline Damocles
« Reply #57 - Posted 2014-01-22 16:14:43 »

mabye

rank-count = post-count +  medals-count + number of published games + (300 * invisible medals given by Riven)

Offline Drenius
« Reply #58 - Posted 2014-01-22 16:32:07 »

@Damocles: Please stop that. It is not as funny as you might think.
@Riven: Could you explain it a little bit? Would be interesting...
Offline Jimmt
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« Reply #59 - Posted 2014-01-22 16:35:14 »

@Damocles: Please stop that. It is not as funny as you might think.
@Riven: Could you explain it a little bit? Would be interesting...
Or maybe he actually wants to know what the formula is. There was a thread back when the system was first implemented, I believe it's powered by black magic...
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