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Offline Orangy Tang

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« Reply #30 - Posted 2003-05-25 09:40:24 »

Renderware is (last time i checked) a cross-platform rendering API. And when they say cross-platform, then mean ps2, win32 and i think NGC and xbox as well. Its rumoured to be pretty low level, but thats what you get when you have ps2 for your lowest common denominator Tongue

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Offline nickdotjava

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« Reply #31 - Posted 2003-05-25 15:27:45 »

How much does it cost?  I can't find a price quote anywhere.  Or is there a demo version or something?  Their site just seems to have a lot of general info on what the program helps with, but not exactly what it does, or how to get it.

-Nick

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Offline Captain-Goatse

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I suck at teh 2D. XBOX IS BIG LOL!111


« Reply #32 - Posted 2003-06-06 09:46:06 »

I just went to the vertex array thread at LWJGL forum and there is no way I'm coming back. Making portable code with C++ is possible if you have the right wrappers and know what you are doing. Just came here to say hello and suggesting anyone who is thinking about it,  do it.


I'll still hangaround here for some java syntax loving and waiting the day when Sun takes head out of their asshole and gets real.

Also here: http://www.internalmemos.com/memos/memodetails.php?memo_id=1321

I don't know about you huys but that is pretty lol.
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Online princec

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« Reply #33 - Posted 2003-06-06 09:57:30 »

What was it in that thread that scared you off?

Cas Smiley

Offline bedelf

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Are you suggesting coconuts migrate?


« Reply #34 - Posted 2003-06-06 10:37:17 »

Theres nothing wierd going on in that thread except my bumbling. I don't understand?  Kiss
Offline Captain-Goatse

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I suck at teh 2D. XBOX IS BIG LOL!111


« Reply #35 - Posted 2003-06-06 11:05:29 »

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It says something along the lines:
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-John Locke

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Offline shawnkendall

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« Reply #36 - Posted 2003-06-06 11:37:28 »

FYI, That memo is dated.

"Sun confirmed the memo's authenticity, but said that the document is two years old and that the problems it describes have been fixed."

http://zdnet.com.com/2100-1104-984529.html

The "rereleasing" of it this year in Feb is basically akin to a hoax.

Shawn Kendall
Cosmic Interactive, LLC
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Offline erikd

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« Reply #37 - Posted 2003-06-06 11:39:45 »

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I think someone posted the same link here like 1.5 years ago. It's quite a populare link to people having a dislike towards java for some reason.
While some points are quite real sometimes, like 'the perception of java being an unstable platform to many customers', I don't see the word 'game' anywhere in there or anything remotely game related so I don't know how relevant this is exactly to what I'm doing.

It looks like just another collection of issues to me. Even an issue of 'disk size' is mentioned. I mean, *really*.
My point is, if you just look hard and long enough you'll always find the things you want to see. If you put them all on a list, things tend to look worse than they really are.

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Making portable code with C++ is possible if you have the right wrappers and know what you are doing.


True, it just takes you a lot longer.

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Offline bedelf

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Are you suggesting coconuts migrate?


« Reply #38 - Posted 2003-06-06 11:43:24 »

Exaggerate much?
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« Reply #39 - Posted 2003-06-06 11:55:52 »

Hey Captain, take no notice of bedelf's code, he's useless  Grin  Tongue but he's going to get better soon Smiley That bit of code could be written in C++ just as daft.

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Offline albanc

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« Reply #40 - Posted 2003-06-06 12:10:58 »

Renderware only costs something like 50 000 ¤ per target platform. That is if you want your game to run on XBox and playstation, it will cost you 100 000 ¤.

Alban
Offline nickdotjava

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I have fallen to the dark side.  I'm using DX9


« Reply #41 - Posted 2003-06-06 13:21:27 »

50k?  Holy shit!  Sticking to nice Java, where everything is free.   Smiley

-Nick

"Oh ya, that's trivial.  I should have it done in an hour."
Offline bedelf

Junior Duke




Are you suggesting coconuts migrate?


« Reply #42 - Posted 2003-06-06 13:28:38 »

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Hey Captain, take no notice of bedelf's code, he's useless


Exactly.

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but he's going to get better soon


At least you threw me a frickin' bone.

Kidding aside, that code was intentionally made as retarded as possible to weed out things that might go wrong. Which in the end, still didn't help me get anything working.

Java is hardly to blame for that one though. Wink
Offline Captain-Goatse

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I suck at teh 2D. XBOX IS BIG LOL!111


« Reply #43 - Posted 2003-06-08 16:33:23 »

I have just recently got into "the biz" and one of my collegues had been working with the java/solaris department. He said that to the solaris crew Java was mostly a joke and much hate was brought up, because it was so uncompatible with previous versions.

I know where this board stands so I won't continue. Other than that I just say that he never said a good word about Java and the only Java lovers were the ones who were developing it. He was the one who pointed me to this article.

While I have no reason to disbelief him, on the other hand java is always java <3 <3...

Offline erikd

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« Reply #44 - Posted 2003-06-08 19:02:14 »

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I have just recently got into "the biz" and one of my collegues had been working with the java/solaris department.  


Just out of curiousity, what biz exactly?

Offline Orangy Tang

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« Reply #45 - Posted 2003-06-08 19:13:04 »

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Just out of curiousity, what biz exactly?


If you can ask that question to someone whose handle is a reference to a giant, gaping anus, then you're a braver man than me Shocked Lips Sealed

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Offline erikd

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« Reply #46 - Posted 2003-06-08 19:16:56 »

ROFL!  Grin
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