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  Would you like to join a team rebuilding a game ?  (Read 2243 times)
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Offline zingbat

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« Posted 2002-12-16 20:59:52 »

This thread is not to ask anyone into joining a team but instead i would like to know what type of team organization is most attractive to gatter new members.

For that i would apreceate having any opinion on these topics:

How the documentation has to be arranged, game docs, art sketchs, UML diagrams ?

Where and how to discuss things ? Forum or chat ?

How the participants can influence team decisions ?

How to divide tasks between the team, should there be team chiefs or art and coding bosses ?

Preference for technology, engine, language ?

Style of game, action, strategy, adventure, RPG ?

Format of game, isometric, 2d top, 2d side, 3d ?

Start from where, coding or art ?

Doing small steps, updating new code or art every week ?

Or doing big steps, come out with a full editor and then start doing scripts and art ?

What people see in a site advertise a team rebuilding a game that calls the attention ?

If there is something important important i missed feel free to discuss it.

Offline leknor

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« Reply #1 - Posted 2002-12-16 23:19:22 »

I'll just respond to what I've at least have limited experience with.

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Where and how to discuss things ? Forum or chat ?

Chat is bad for a team. This is unfortunate as people are graviated to chat due to it's instant gratification. The problem is that discussions and decisions get lost when people leave the chat room. Yes it is possilbe to keep chat logs but they are hard to read if you didn't participate in the conversation. IMO each tem member should think about decisions and idea they come up with. Chat leands itself to short, one line, incomplete thoughts, which is bad for the project. Also, ideas get lost as the topic changes and people try to keep up with the conversation. A forum is less bad but not as good as a mailing list. Why? With a mailing list each member gets a copy of each email and has the oppurintunity to respond to each. In a forum memebers are required to take the effort to check the forums for new messages which leads to uneven particapation. It's important to include everybody because good ideas come from many places, not just the vocal few that think they have all the good ideas.

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How the participants can influence team decisions ?

You discuss, then vote.

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How to divide tasks between the team, should there be team chiefs or art and coding bosses?

Split the project into tasks and vote people into positions of responsibility. Each position should either have terms or some way to be impeached if they proove to be a bad canidate.

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Preference for technology, engine, language?

Work this out during the planning stages.

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Style of game, action, strategy, adventure, RPG?

Who ever starts the project needs some vague vision of what will be made.

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Format of game, isometric, 2d top, 2d side, 3d?

Once again, part of the initial vision.

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Start from where, coding or art?

Start with a developed plan and vision, commonly called a design document. Then divy up tasks and work and each team works morstly on their part.

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Doing small steps, updating new code or art every week ?

Or doing big steps, come out with a full editor and then start doing scripts and art?

In a volunteer project it is probably more import to stick to small steps so you can monitor and make sure nothing spirals way out of control. Cleaning up a big mess is not fun and you don't want people to get frustrated and to leave the project. If a project needs custom tools then tool smithing is important. The question then becomes can a volunteer team take on a project so big it needs custom tools?
Offline markuskidd

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« Reply #2 - Posted 2002-12-21 01:50:40 »

Someone needs to write a hybrid forum/mailling list sofware, where there is a web interface with identical functionaity to YaBB or Ikonboard, but where members can subscribe to the entire board or specific forums/topics. The email subscribers would receive emails just as are used in mailing lists, and if they reply to them, their comments are added to the thread. This sounds plausible enough that there may already be something out there like this...
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Offline princec

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« Reply #3 - Posted 2002-12-21 09:43:29 »

I've been using CIX conferencing for the best part of a decade, and the 3 fundamentally clever things about CIX are:

1) You are at liberty to create and moderate your own conferences, and add topics to those conferences

2) All messages are threaded, which goes a very long way to shortening conversations, removing noise and repetition, and increasing understanding

3) It's accessed with an off-line reader (Ameol) which means the information is available off-line! No more of this sorry wait for web pages to render.

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