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Offline ChrisM

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« Reply #30 - Posted 2005-08-11 04:39:31 »

Moral implications? Given that in each case someone's lawyer has to lose - i.e. statistically speaking your lawyer only has a 50% probability of knowing what they're talking about, despite the piece of paper on the wall? Ha.

Odds are still better that they know what they are talking about vs. someone who has no paper on the wall Smiley

-Chris

Offline Jeff

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« Reply #31 - Posted 2005-08-12 06:32:19 »

Moral implications? Given that in each case someone's lawyer has to lose - i.e. statistically speaking your lawyer only has a 50% probability of knowing what they're talking about, despite the piece of paper on the wall? Ha.

Odds are still better that they know what they are talking about vs. someone who has no paper on the wall Smiley

-Chris

Thats also total nonsense. What happens is this...

IF the suit is between equally matched parties (abotu the same wallet size) then the lawyer taking the suit only takes the suit if he/she feels they have a good shot at winning (particualrly sicne most law suits in the US are  on contingency.)

The party being sued has no choice but to engage a lawyer tor espond.  If the responding lawyer really believes they cant win in court then its his/her job to try to negotiate the stettlement as low as he/she can.

If one party has much more money then the other, then the law of walletes takes over and he who spends the most, wins (most of the time.)

The samrt thing though is to consult a lawyer BEFORHAND anywahere you think you might get into trouble and avoid the trouble all together.

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Offline OverKill

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« Reply #32 - Posted 2005-08-12 08:13:16 »

Bump...

pretty please Smiley
(or is there a board for this? If not would be nice!)

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Offline jeep

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« Reply #33 - Posted 2005-09-23 22:49:07 »

avoid lawyers. lawyers are out for 1 thing, and 1 thing only: getting you to pay them a retaining fee. the lawyer will basically convince you that you are going to lose but to sign on the dotted line and will cause you to lose because losing is less work for them but they still get the retaining fee. this is why the legal profession is the most hated profession in the world. they are a bunch of scam artists who learned three things in college: how to bullshit , how to inflate their ego, and how to remember a few laws.

you are better off representing yourself, calling the opponents lawyer everyday as often as possible so that you can run up your opponents legal bill until your opponent settles.

all you really have to do is file a document or response at the courthouse (look on-line for samples) and set court dates. the goal in representing yourself is to use the price of lawyers against your opponent so that you can get your way before going to court. if you make it to court, good luck, just make sure you watch court tv first to learn the basics, and the judge will help you do the rest.

lawyers use big sheets of paper (11x14) and other odd practices as a means to try to make the legal profession as something magical, and that you, the stupid person, can't use their books of magic. the legal industry is a fraud up there with the miracle creams to reduce aging and miracle pills to lose weight. it doesn't take a rocket scientist to read through pre-made forms and determine what they do and do not do. it isn't that hard either to find out the law in your case.

and if posting legal advice from a non-lawyer  is illegal, sue me, i'll win or at least cost you a lot of money in lawyer fees.


 
Offline jeep

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« Reply #34 - Posted 2005-09-23 23:03:40 »

against corporations this strategy doesn't work since their lawyers are prepaid (i.e., an employee). in this case, you are better off representing yourself first, post your message to investor news group and the bbb and threaten a lawsuit if they don't settle. it helps to use "near wrongful death lawsuit" in your threat if you went to the hospital for say, high blood pressure, because of poor out-sourced customer service. they'll tremble and settle.

in most cases where you infringe on the corporation's IP rights, you are best off negotiating yourself. if you violated their copyright, you're wrong anyway. if you violated their patent, you are best off representing yourself and put the burden on them to sue you. if you aren't a multi-millionaire from the patent violation, such cases are a waste of their time. if you are a multi-millionaire, you should have your own prepaid lawyer to deal with such things.
Offline Jeff

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« Reply #35 - Posted 2005-09-24 00:39:16 »

avoid lawyers. lawyers are out for 1 thing, and 1 thing only: getting you to pay them a retaining fee. the lawyer will basically convince you that you are going to lose but to sign on the dotted line and will cause you to lose because losing is less work for them but they still get the retaining fee.

I have NEVER had that experience and I have sued lawyers  in many occassions.  I think thats terribly irresponsible advice.

In most states in the US the bar association has a referral program where for something like $25 you get the first consult with the lawyer efectively for free.

I have many lawyers solve my problem at that meeting and never ever suggest I pay them more.

If youa re in busines in the US, a lawyer is like a pistol.  You should have one for your own protection ,but only if you are not afraid to use it.  Then you should do everything in your poeer to see that you never have to use it.

A good place for answers to basic questions is the Nolo book series if you are willing to self educate BUT udnerstand the limits.  You are NOT a lawyer.  if you try to extrapolate from what is  inthe book as an amature you have just crossed voer to dangerous ground.

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Offline g666

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« Reply #36 - Posted 2005-09-24 16:59:10 »

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I have NEVER had that experience and I have sued lawyers  in many occassions.  I think thats terribly irresponsible advice.

 Grin

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Offline Jeff

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« Reply #37 - Posted 2005-09-25 05:30:43 »

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I have NEVER had that experience and I have sued lawyers  in many occassions.  I think thats terribly irresponsible advice.

 Grin

Yeah okay, my typo there was funny.  I admit it  Grin

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Offline dsellars

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« Reply #38 - Posted 2005-09-26 16:13:12 »

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If youa re in busines in the US, a lawyer is like a pistol.  You should have one for your own protection

I was going to make a jest of the pistol thing  Grin but then worried it might be take the wrong way Sad

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