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Offline K.I.L.E.R

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« Posted 2005-03-16 03:58:10 »

New indentation engine and some other stuff.

What's the deal with jEdit? I have no problems with Eclipse or it's memory usage as some have said to be high and it works perfectly.

What benefit would jEdit have over Eclipse fot myself?

Is there a name for a "redneck" programmer?

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Offline Bombadil

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« Reply #1 - Posted 2005-03-16 05:30:04 »

JEdit is a text editor, a very smart one, I've to add.
Eclipse is an IDE, like Netbeans, Jbuilder, and so on. They happen to include a kind of specialist text editor, too, like for example a word processor does, too.

I know people who use OpenOffice to write a simple plain text file, but actually this means to break a butterfly on the wheel.
Offline Bombadil

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« Reply #2 - Posted 2005-03-16 07:39:24 »

A moderator moved the topic; thanks. So I removed my question about the wrong forum.

Btw there are people who develop Java sources with text editors like Jedit (or Emacs or VI or ...), because syntax highlighting and the integration of (external) tools is possible, too. (Take a look at the many plugins available for Jedit, for example.)
This is because it's possible to do a lot with text editors; write your thesis for example, with (La) TeX.

Still I don't think this makes a text editor like Jedit a comparable thing to full blown IDEs.
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Offline blahblahblahh

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« Reply #3 - Posted 2005-03-16 08:17:52 »

No, jedit is not a text editor - you've somewhat missed the point of it.

It's an IDE built around a basic text editor; very very few people (any?) use it as a text editor, instead they use the extensive plugins and plugin server to convert it into a customised IDE.

This is, in fact, exactly what NB and eclipse do too Smiley. It's just that Eclipse starts with a base "workspace manager", jedit starts with a base "text editor", and NB starts with something somewhere between the two (can't remember what happens if you rip everything out of NB, not sure what you are left with)

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Offline Bombadil

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« Reply #4 - Posted 2005-03-16 10:15:26 »

No, jedit is not a text editor - you've somewhat missed the point of it.

JEdit is very officially a "programmer's text editor", see their website. :-)

It happens that I'm a programmer and use it as a text editor, but bascially I use this text editor just as a user, and JBuilder as a developer. I need one single JEdit plugin: the BufferTabs because it's slighty more comfortable than the builtin buffer switcher.
Years ago when I left Ultraedit I watched out for a pure Java text editor and found... JEdit.

Btw. Borland adverts JBuilder as a "leading development solution for Java", not as a text editor plus plugins. ;-)

I think it's great that there are so many plugins for JEdit, makeing it even some kind of "IDE", or FTP server, or IRC client, or disc doctor.
Still I doubt it's meaningful to put a programmer's text editor and a dedicated IDE (like JBuilder or Netbeans) into the same league.
I haven't commented on Eclipse, because I don't use it. Eclipse isn't just an IDE, that's correct. It's now even used for non-IDE things in B2B areas.
Offline JasonB

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« Reply #5 - Posted 2005-03-17 02:37:42 »

BTW, one major lack in jEdit's plugins is dot-completion.  I know there is a couple of plugins that are -supposed- to provide dot-completion, but in my experience they've never come close to NB or Eclipse in usability.

That said, the fact that jEdit supports syntax colouring for Python/Jython code is a major plus, and the reason I use it as well as NB.
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