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Offline Y

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« Posted 2005-02-08 18:03:25 »

I think christian based games are underrrated severely. They are actually very good!
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« Reply #1 - Posted 2005-02-09 17:33:36 »

Look this!

http://www.gameforms.com/games/gcn/passion/preview.php


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Offline swpalmer

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« Reply #2 - Posted 2005-02-10 22:24:36 »

Or this http://www.johnfanzine.com/news/expand.php?id=5  Smiley

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« Reply #3 - Posted 2005-02-10 22:57:47 »

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That is seriously twisted!  I am still laughing!

[PC]Though if Y was serious about his/her post, this could be pretty insulting[/PC]

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« Reply #4 - Posted 2005-02-10 23:19:03 »

I'd rather do a porn game... or a pagan game haha...

Well, christian stuff isn't kid-save. If you disagree... read the bible. It's so totally rated M. And if the stuff in the bible is actually true, god is an asshole. Again... feel free to disagree. However, the bible is on my side Smiley

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« Reply #5 - Posted 2005-02-11 01:20:20 »

hehe got a good point...

On top of that... violent games sell.  I assume Y is encouraging happy Jesus games for kids, and well, they just don't sell like sinful games.

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Offline Daire Quinlan

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« Reply #6 - Posted 2005-02-11 01:28:21 »

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That is seriously twisted!  I am still laughing!

[PC]Though if Y was serious about his/her post, this could be pretty insulting[/PC]


thats funny ;-)  I actually thought it was SERIOUS until i read the 5th paragraph

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You can stab the nuns on level 1 right in the face with the flaming trident and half the time they don't take any damage.


oh, i laughed and laughed.

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Offline Bombadil

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« Reply #7 - Posted 2005-02-11 06:43:23 »

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I think christian based games are underrrated severely. They are actually very good!

There's been some serious and sensible discussion on this topic on Indiegamer, or Dexterity as it's been called in former times.
This has been possible because offensive and insulting articles have been disallowed.

Religious movies are coming increasingly. In the USA christian ones in particular.
The authenticity and worldwide success of Gibson's movie "Passion of Christ" has been amazing and still is very encouraging.
I'm sure appropriate games will follow sooner or later.
Of course it would be top when some of them would use Java. :-)
Or are there any, already?
Offline weston

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« Reply #8 - Posted 2005-02-11 17:53:52 »

Umm, I don't see much of a point in of involving christianity (or any other religion) in a video game... unless it was to be used as a tool for teaching youngins religious terms and faster typing at the same time or something. Maybe I'm misunderstanding what a 'christian game' is, but I think if I were a religious person, I would want to keep my religion away from my video games Grin These christian games, are they games that just follow christian moral values, or are you supposed to play out bible stories or something (I'm picturing Paperboy only you hand out informitive religious pamphlets instead of newspapers).

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« Reply #9 - Posted 2005-02-11 21:36:35 »

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I'm picturing Paperboy only you hand out informitive religious pamphlets instead of newspapers


Ooo.... A mormon game!

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Umm, I don't see much of a point in of involving christianity (or any other religion) in a video game...


Since we live in a mediated culture/society for a belief, fictional or otherwise, to be believed it must be present in as many or all forms of media.

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Offline Y2

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« Reply #10 - Posted 2005-02-18 14:11:20 »

all you should grow up. The bible is great and so is christian gaming. Y WAS serious. Iknow cuz he's my friend & he's angry at all of you! GROW UP!
Offline swpalmer

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« Reply #11 - Posted 2005-02-18 16:32:46 »

Personally, I would avoid religious games.  To me they would be propaganda games, and I would rather see people (young gamers) exposed to more reliable sources of information.  Now science games, or games that teach critical thinking, they're underrated Wink.
That's simply a personal preference of course.

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« Reply #12 - Posted 2005-02-18 17:14:17 »

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Personally, I would avoid religious games.  To me they would be propaganda games, and I would rather see people (young gamers) exposed to more reliable sources of information.  Now science games, or games that teach critical thinking, they're underrated Wink.


One could argue that a "scientific game" such as "make your creatures evolve" could be considered propaganda itself. Food for thought, anyway. :-)

Personally, I am amazed at the lack of Christian games. Fairly large markets have evolved for Christian Music, Christian Books, Christian Entertainment (Veggie Tales rulez 'da house!), and Christian Social Crazes (WWJD, "This Vehicle May Be Unoccupied In Case of Rapture" bumper stickers, etc.). The only market that hasn't evolved is gaming. And to be perfectly honest, Wisdom Tree isn't exactly giving the market much credibility (despite making money hand over fist).

Part of the problem, I think, is that video games tend to be idealistic in nature. i.e. The hero is super-human, and is above the issues we regular people have to deal with. He's smarter than the bad guy, he's totally ripped, and he's got more cool weapons than you can shake a stick at. Real people aren't like that, and the Biblical characters are most certainly NOT portrayed in such a fashion. Even characters generally considered "heros" in the Bible are so full of human faults that there really is no way to turn them into an action hero. I mean, a game where Moses  runs away until God threatens to kill him wouldn't be very exciting, would it? Not to mention that the Biblical stories are so well known that they offer very little intrigue and adventure unless the game authors take extreme artistic license. (Kind of a no-no for anything Biblical in nature.)

So what markets does that leave? Well, the traditional commercialization of other forms of entertainment is open. e.g. A platform game based on the adventures of Larry Boy (the original 3D one, not that stupid cartoon), a first person shooter based on Bible Man (ummm... or not), Where in [Biblical] Time is Carmen (the singer), etc. Another option is to create adventure/RPG titles that are based on stories with a Christian theme. Perhaps told in an allegorical sense like Pilgrim's Progress.

In short, there is both a demand and available genres for Christian games. They just haven't been explored by any serious game publisher.

@Y/Y2, while the subject of Christian gaming is a very on-topic one that I see no issue with exploring on these forums, you must also address the issue as is. Simply making an inflammatory statement that seems like a poor attempt at making an on-topic post is going to get you into trouble. If you are looking to convert people to Christianity, then may I recommend that you live your life as a witness of what God has done for you rather than attempting to force the concept on others? Remember that God gave people free will. He therefore expects them to exercise it in choosing for or against him. Don't be looking to forcibly take that will from others. That's what the Spanish Inquisition did, and we all know how well that ended. :-/

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Offline swpalmer

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« Reply #13 - Posted 2005-02-18 18:12:07 »

If you attempted to use biblical stories as the foundation of a game you run into the immediate problem that many of the stories can't be taken literally, at least not without consequences...

I mean do you really want to make a game where you punish disobedient children with death, like it says to do in the bible?

Or you could go around killing innocent animals as sacrifices and setting them on fire...  that certainly sends a positive message to the kids...

Sure, you can take the basic core values and try to build a game around it... but unless you ignore a great deal of stuff, you are going to end up with a pretty violent game.  I assume it would be blasphemous to
pick and choose what parts of the scriptures you will pay attention to.

E.g. perhaps religious games in general don't happen that often because when you start coding them you have to take a serious look at the stories that form the basis of the religion and then gradually you become a bit enlightened and decide that maybe it isn't such a good idea after all Smiley

At least that's one viewpoint, just one of many personal opinions.

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« Reply #14 - Posted 2005-02-18 18:48:06 »

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If you attempted to use biblical stories as the foundation of a game you run into the immediate problem that many of the stories can't be taken literally, at least not without consequences...


Do you really want to start a flame war, here and now? I can answer your questions if you'd like, but if you're just looking to condemn Christianity, then may I suggest you take it to a better forum?

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I mean do you really want to make a game where you punish disobedient children with death, like it says to do in the bible?


If I were you, I wouldn't take such a site too seriously. They do quite a bit of "creative interpreting" of the Bible.

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« Reply #15 - Posted 2005-02-18 19:48:55 »

>One could argue that a "scientific game" such as "make
>your creatures evolve" could be considered propaganda
>itself. Food for thought, anyway.

Well, games like pokémon are forbidden in some countries, because they teach darwinism (they say so at least).

>If I were you, I wouldn't take such a site too seriously.
>They do quite a bit of "creative interpreting" of the Bible.

There are many horrible parts which don't need any interpreting at all. Like there were some kids making fun of a bold man... he prays and god sends some wolfes to kill those kids and a bunch of others (collateral damage). Or the part where god himself slaughters thousands of people with his flaming sword. What do I need to interpret there?

Oh and of course... gay people deserve death... Roll Eyes

Sure there are some good values like you shouldn't kill, steal, lie etc... and even some sensefull things like you should rest once a week, but the rest is just filling material, which shows how "good" god is and that you really should fear all those nasty consequences. Stuff like that is really unnecessary these days.

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The only christian game I know is Noah's Arch... a SNES first person shooter, which uses the wolfenstein3d engine. You shoot there animals with food... and they "sleep" then... yea sure Roll Eyes

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« Reply #16 - Posted 2005-02-18 20:27:45 »

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>Well, games like pokémon are forbidden in some countries, because they teach darwinism (they say so at least).


Indeed. But not in the US. This is still a free country, and I for one am willing to defend to right of anyone to preach any religion they want. Even atheism. As Voltaire said:

"I may not agree with everything you say, but I will defend to
the death your right to say it."

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There are many horrible parts which don't need any interpreting at all.


Things always seem very cut and dry out of context, don't they? In its most basic form, the purpose of the Bible is/was to track the lineage of Jesus Christ. Thus it tends to refer to other books (e.g. The Book of the Annals) to fill in historical details. Without those details, the picture is quite unclear. For example, are you aware of who/what the Nephilim where? If you don't, then you wouldn't understand the reasons behind many of the instructions given to Biblical figures.

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Like there were some kids making fun of a bold man... he prays and god sends some wolfes to kill those kids and a bunch of others (collateral damage).


It was two female bears. And the scripture is hotly debated because it was translated as "young boys". The Hebrew word "naar" in the Biblical context, however, apparently referred to servents, soldiers, students, and men of other persuasions. Thus the correct translation is "young men" or "young lads".

Now you might want to consider something before you get too worked up over their mauling. Did not kings of the time have laws regarding how they may be treated? And did not those laws proclaim death for anyone who mocked a king or his messengers? Did not God proclaim that Elisha was God's messenger and was a more important authority than all the kings in existence?

Those men took their lives into their own hands in their mocking. I'm afraid the results were fairly typical for the period. That's why Jesus brought grace with him. Under grace, the Biblical laws are not hard and fast, and thus we may be forgiven. It's interesting to note that this concept extended into modern law. In most civilized countries today, you cannot receive capital punishment for mocking an authority figure such as a president, monarch, or prime minister.

One last thing, before you bemoan the loss of those men's souls to hell, keep in mind that Jesus did spend three days passing out "Get out of Hell Free" cards. Those who wanted them, got them.

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Or the part where god himself slaughters thousands of people with his flaming sword. What do I need to interpret there?

Oh and of course... gay people deserve death... Roll Eyes


While Sodomy is a Biblical sin, may I also point out that the men of Sodom wanted to RAPE the angels? Or did you just conveniently forget that part? Lot even offered his two virgin daughters in exchange for the men leaving! They STILL behaved wickedly!

God told Abraham that he would not destroy the cities if Abraham could find 10 people undeserving of death. Abraham couldn't even find ONE.

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The only christian game I know is Noah's Arch... a SNES first person shooter, which uses the wolfenstein3d engine. You shoot there animals with food... and they "sleep" then... yea sure Roll Eyes


That was Wisdom Tree's handiwork. If  you look at their company's history as "Color Dreams", you'll understand why I say they aren't very credible.

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« Reply #17 - Posted 2005-02-18 21:45:59 »

Well, actually... I don't really care Smiley

Even if it's out of context... it doesn't really matter. The bible isn't kid save. That's all.

I don't like religion, because it has done way too much harm and almost nothing good has come from it. That's my opinion and it won't change ever... because the death of millions can't be undone. Oh and it will continue on and on... "god/allah/chutullu is with us!". People will continue using religion to manipulate the masses (like Bush does for example), which will then run enthusiastically into their own perdition. It's so silly Smiley

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« Reply #18 - Posted 2005-02-18 22:34:02 »

Personally, I am an athiest.  

I respect peoples beliefs though.  As an athiest it is in my belief system that no one knows anything for sure, so me not believing in an all powerful being is no more right then someone else believing in one.

I respect beliefs, but have little respect for organized religions.  The problem with religion is it's indirectly or directly responsible for the vast pain, suffering, murder, predjudice, corruption, degredation, control, fear mongering, extermination, anhilation of peoples, lands and freedoms through out history then any other force imagined.  From the first time some felt an earth quake and thought maybe a some kind of powerful being did it to punish someone, we were in trouble.

That and the fundemental chicken and the egg problem....if god created the universe....who created god?  Makes no sense at all Wink

To an athiest, the answer is simple and provides more reason to be good to one and other then any religion.  If people really cared about each other, they wouldn't need a god to tell them what is right or wrong.  Athiests believe we created gods to make ourselves feel like we have some kind of input into the universe, a conecptual representation our inner need to personify things we don't understand as well as quel our fear of each other and nature...and to control each other.  None of which are good reasons, but they are the ones that have stood the test of time.

To an athiest the only thing we have is each other and we only have one life to live and participate in the universe.  To me those are real and visible purposes and far better reason for us all to get along then fear of an all powerful being putting the boots to us long after we have hurt, killed, stolen or destroyed the lives of others.

As I said...I may be entirely wrong, so PLEASE take nothing I say personally.  I respect everyones beliefs, they just may not be the same as mine and that's great.  Ideas are more important than beliefs to me.

Should your gods exist, may he/she/it bless us all! Cheesy

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« Reply #19 - Posted 2005-02-19 02:16:02 »

The "flame war" was inevitable when the original poster introduce the topic of religion.  There aren't many topics that would make it more certain.
I personally find promotion of religion offensive and evil.  It was clearly the intent of the original poster to start a discussion promoting religion.  Though I believe in free speech so I simply participate in the discussion.  I don't wish to censor anyone.

Nonetheless I was just relating my opinion that religion in general does not stand up to critical thinking, to the observation that there are few religious video games.  E.g. when you start to analyze religious stories logically as you might when researching a game it could be very discouraging.  Thus leading to few games of a religious context, given that programmers must think logically, and many would be unable to ignore the conflict of logic and faith.  I didn't mean to single out a specific religion.

Creative interpreting is of course used by BOTH sides (for and against religion).  It's my personal opinion that it is used much more by the religious side.  Given that the religious side keeps changing their interpretation to try to match the facts and truths that science reveals.  It's only recently that the church stopped murdering astronomers for presenting observations that conflicted with scripture, for example.  (Hmmm, murder the astronomer, there's a nice religious theme for a game.)

Ultimately this results in my opinion that religious games are generally a bad idea, as they would promote blind acceptance (i.e. "faith") of traditions routed in superstition at the expense of critical thinking, science, and reality.
I realize that this is in disagreement with the opinions of very many other people, and that's ok.

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« Reply #20 - Posted 2005-02-19 05:39:26 »

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Well, actually... I don't really care Smiley


Then we probably shouldn't be arguing this at all. While Y's post was inflammatory in nature, I generally trust members of this board to ignore flame-bait and instead focus on whatever real and relevant issue is at hand. In this case, that issue is Christian gaming and lack of a developed market. :-)

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Even if it's out of context... it doesn't really matter. The bible isn't kid save.


The Bible can definitely get quite violent in certain areas, but it's difficult to say whether it's "kid safe" or not. There used to be a couple of fellows named the Brothers Grimm who told stories to children that were far less encouraging than those of the Bible. :-)

But who said we had to target young children anyway? Here's a few game ideas and the age groups they could potentially reach:

Larry Boy and the Attack of the Giant Fib (Ages 3 and up):

Evil aliens have arrived in Bumblyburg, and are feeding off of fibs told by people! Use your super-suction-cup ears to dispatch the evil aliens in this platform adventure game!

You'll travel all over Bumblyburg doing battle with ever growing fibs, collecting pieces of scripture along the way! Modes include Larry on foot, driving the Larry-mobile, and doing battle in the Larry-jet! Only you can save Bumblyburg from this horrible menace!


Where in Biblical Time is [Character] (Ages 10 and up):

I'm still thinking about why you would be chasing someone through Biblical time, but I'm sure that I could come up with something if I think about it enough.

The premise is similar to the popular game "Where in Time is Carmen Sandiego?" You are trying to track down someone who is using a time machine to visit events mentioned in the Bible. You're given a limited amount of time before you're forced to call off the chase. At each correct stop, you witness a Biblical event take place before questioning local witnesses if they've seen your prey. Clues given on where to go will be details about the event such as "He mentioned something about lapping up water like a dog", "I think he mentioned a Joseph" (Tricky clue, because is it the Joseph of the Old Testament or New?), and "He mentioned that a king recently used a sword to settle a dispute between two mothers" (hint: Solomon's wisdom).  

Use your online and included Bibles to decipher the clues and track down your prey!


The Last War (Ages 14 and up):

A first person shooter similar in style to Elite Force 2. You are a military soldier who's world is turned upside down when a large chunk of the population suddenly goes missing. In the early missions you are sent to clean up rioting, but things quickly take a turn for the worse as tensions heat up between the countries. With governments in disarray, you are quickly called to infiltrate enemy strongholds and stop them from launching nuclear weapons. Unfortunately, some nukes do get launched, and the world is thrown into even more chaos.

At the darkest hour, a new leader rises to bring peace to world and stop the fighting. While his initial plans seem sane enough, you find yourself on missions to suppress a growing rebel movement. During these missions, captured "terrorists" warn you of a the new leader's plans before they are executed. Soon, the new leader suggests that everyone should be microchipped as a safety precaution. Anyone who isn't microchipped will be unable to purchase goods, thus forcing the rebels to either starve or submit to government tracking. Heeding the warnings of the rebels, you delay the implant. Soon you realize that people you knew are no longer directly controlling themselves. These chips are controlling people.

You join the resistance and find yourself on a collision course with this new leader and the ultimate war that will soon take place...

[size=4]Armageddon[/size]

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I don't like religion, because it has done way too much harm


So has feudalism, communism, ****sm, and thousands of other "ideals" that have little or nothing to do with religion. People who hurt others tend to care very little for who's flag they fly under.

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and almost nothing good has come from it.


That is a provably false statement. As are several statements made by swpalmer. But I'm not going to argue them here. This is a gaming forum, and the only subject worthy of discussion on this topic is that the Christian gaming market exists and is relatively untapped. If you have an issue with this market, then you probably want to ignore this thread.

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« Reply #21 - Posted 2005-02-19 06:18:14 »

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A first person shooter similar in style to Elite Force 2. You are a military soldier who's world is turned upside down ....


This is off topic, but more on topic then most of this thread...

What did you think of Elite Force 2?  Did you play the multiplayer at all?  I made two of the mulitplayer maps for the 1.1 patch from Activision, ctf_Vor2 (Romulan Playground) and ctf_Exigent.  It's my little claim to fame in the gaming world.

In another life I was a pretty respected mapper/modder for EF1/Quake 3 and Jedi Knight II.  Activision contacted and then contracted myself, another mapper (James Nukem) and two mappers from Raven (both guys working on Quake 4 for ID)  to try to breath life back into EF2 multiplayer.  Unfortunetly though Ritual messed up the Q3 multiplayer code so badly we were only able to rejuvinate it for a short time.  Everyone loved the maps, but that didn't make the gameplay better.  Activision had people working on the code for weeks trying to fix it, but it was to far gone from the original Q3 networking and physics.  The game play was just to borked.  

Raven should have done EF2, not Ritual, but they wanted to work on Jedi Knight 2 instead.   Raven did a great job on EF1.  

I will credit Ritual with making the single player version of EF2 nice though.

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« Reply #22 - Posted 2005-02-19 06:39:42 »

A recent gift to my children has been the Playmobile's large "Noah's Ark" and they love to play with it. It comes with a small booklet about the story and it's presented quite accurately.
I'm sure something similar will be done for video games one day. It's just that video games are relatively young and we need some time to invent better concepts. Basically most of today's games are just different forms of old video game concepts.

This Noah's Ark is a nice toy not only for Christian and Jewish people.
Many of the people disliking "the Bible" tend to forget that the Christian Bible actually contains two totally different books: the Old Testament and the New Testament. Although they are tied by miraculous strings the New Testament is the dominating one for Christians, because it contains the words of the Lord Jesus Christus. (Also don't forget His anti-thesis: "It's been told to you [by the Old Testament] AB but I tell you CD...")
If somebody wants to flame the Old Testament I think he should address his concerns to the Christian and Jewish scholarly people, and not forget that the latter ones know the Old Testament some thousands year longer than any Christian.
(Naturally it's simpler to bash Christians because of the New Testaments' saying about the two cheeks, in contrast to the Old Testament's "an eye for an eye".)

So... back on topic: A Christian game, like the topic suggests, could well handle some stories from the New Testament.
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« Reply #23 - Posted 2005-02-19 11:58:42 »

Hmmm, Christion Gaming, the Flanders would certainly love that Smiley

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« Reply #24 - Posted 2005-02-19 15:10:47 »

The Last War sounds like so many other FPS out their. Is that want you want for religious gaming, <standard plot xyz> with religion forced into it?

Mike (mostly pagen, but has no problem with Christian games if they pay the bills)

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« Reply #25 - Posted 2005-02-19 15:55:32 »

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This Noah's Ark is a nice toy not only for Christian and Jewish people.
Many of the people disliking "the Bible" tend to forget that the Christian Bible actually contains two totally different books: the Old Testament and the New Testament. Although they are tied by miraculous strings the New Testament is the dominating one for Christians, because it contains the words of the Lord Jesus Christus.


It's true. There probably is a market for Jewish games as well as Christian. If a developer limits himself to the Old Testament, then he can easily target both Christian and Jewish players. Christianity tends to be mentioned more often because the US has traditionally been predominantly Christian. :-)

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The Last War sounds like so many other FPS out their. Is that want you want for religious gaming, <standard plot xyz> with religion forced into it?


Well, religion isn't really "forced" into the concept I presented. I'm sure you're aware of the best selling series "Left Behind"? The plot I gave is somewhat similar to that series, which itself is based off of the later books of the New Testament (Revelations in particular). I chose the EF2 style game-play because I liked the way EF2 handled the story line. Obviously, EF2 owed a great debt to EF1, but it did expand on the single player story (albeit at the expense of multiplayer gaming). Such a game would offer action, adventure, and intrigue. All the elements that help make today's games successful. And (depending on how good the writers are) the game could explore the character's moral dilemmas with the world as it is, and learn more and more about the prophecies regarding the tribulation. The game character would then have to choose if he wants to be an instrument in bringing about the Millennium.  

The only down-side is that Biblical scholars disagree strongly about the exact sequence of events described in Revelations. Some think the Rapture will occur and it will be a very dark time, others think that the Rapture is nonsense and that it will simply be a time of testing for Christians. There's really no way to please both camps, but I know I'm not certainly not going with the pastors who complain that we should use Windows because MacOS is based on "Darwin" which has the platypus character "Hexy".  Roll Eyes Those guys really need a good lesson in how Principalities and Powers work, as well as the whole "The devil will come as an angel of light bit." :-)

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« Reply #26 - Posted 2005-02-19 18:27:42 »

Quick Moses part the Red Sea to save your people!  Add these 20 fractions before time runs out!!

Grin

Heck I'd even have had fun with that in 3rd grade hehe.

OOo and for the older crowds...

Quick Moses part the Red Sea to save your people!  Find the plane tangent to the surface of the peak of each of the incoming waves to build a magic wall and push them back!

mmmm Calculus... Smiley

Anybody got a link to the image of the Fast Action Moses with Kung Fu Grip?

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Offline mlk

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« Reply #27 - Posted 2005-02-20 00:48:37 »

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Well, religion isn't really "forced" into the concept I presented.

There is nothing inherently religious in the concept as stated in the original post.
However as explained in the post quoted, I accept that that religion would play an integral part of the story, and so retract "forced" Smiley
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I'm sure you're aware of the best selling series "Left Behind"?

Alas not, and my current reading list is too dam long as it is. Smiley

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« Reply #28 - Posted 2005-03-16 18:28:03 »

You all think you're so smart, putting down christian games...well DAMN YOU TO HELL YOU BASTARDS! Puttin' down stuff gets you nowhere. Be open-minded & stop insultin' Y & Y2. Your words are hurtful, so get a life you screw ups and bastards! I oughta kick your ass for the crap you're givin' these guys. Just go bitch yourselves and shut the hell up!
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« Reply #29 - Posted 2005-03-16 23:03:58 »

That was helpful.

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