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Offline princec

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« Posted 2004-11-29 07:28:30 »

We have become increasingly concerned about the litigious nature of the many-headed American behemoth. Elvis Presley Enterprises, Inc. are reknowned for using underhand and unpleasant tactics to squash other organisations as the whim takes them. Despite Super Elvis not actually being anything to do with Elvis Presley, being an original work, and containing no references to rock 'n' roll in the slightest, we have become concerned that the evil EPE will try to shaft us "just because it can".

The basic tactic is: EPE have more money than you by a factor of a million or so. They hound you with lawsuits until you run out of money and can no longer defend yourself - whether you're right or wrong. Justice, American style!

We are pre-empting them and changing the name of the game to Super Elmo^H^H^H^HDudester. <edit>Yeah it changed again.

Cas Smiley

Offline Matzon

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I'm gonna wring your pants!


« Reply #1 - Posted 2004-11-29 09:28:19 »

Is the character going to look like Elmo the Elk then ? (From Eek the cat)
found a pic here:
http://eekthecat.8m.com/images/elmoshow.gif

awesome show Smiley

Offline Tzan

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« Reply #2 - Posted 2004-11-29 14:07:44 »

Are you serious?

Just because Sesame St. is a cool place where I like to hang out doesnt mean they dont have lawyers. If a company refuses to protect their trademarks/patents/copyrights they lose effectiveness. Its not automatic but if someone can show in court they ignored people who infringed upon them, their rights might be meaningless. Many times companies enforce their rights because they must.

Smart move on dropping Elvis, though I think you have just ended up where you started, at risk Smiley

Elmo the Elk rocks!

Super Emu
Super Elk
Super Eel
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edit: Found this with a google. Apparently the doll says the quote when you press his hand.

Super Elmo or Airplane: If you have Elmo's arms out to the sides and make him seem like he's flying and press his right hand, Elmo will pretend to be Super Elmo or an Airplane. Elmo will not move.

"Look! Up in the sky! It's Super Elmo! Whoosh! Super Elmo to the rescue! Have no fear, Super Elmo's here!"

(snipped the plane quote)
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Offline cfmdobbie

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« Reply #3 - Posted 2004-11-30 08:31:45 »

Yeah, if anything I expect Sesame Street have more lawyers than the fat dead dude.  If you can't convincingly argue your right to use it, stay well clear.

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Offline princec

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« Reply #4 - Posted 2004-11-30 11:02:40 »

for feck's sake.

Ok, we've finally settled on Super Eddie which is just about as generic as you can get for a title.

Cas Smiley

Offline DrBizzar0

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« Reply #5 - Posted 2004-11-30 11:50:18 »

I don't now about England, but here in Sweden American law doesn't apply...

But if you are affraid of law suits, Eddie is also a bad idea, because Iron Maiden will sue your pants off! Wink
Offline princec

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« Reply #6 - Posted 2004-11-30 12:23:52 »

Ok, we'll call it Super QOIueroieuroUEOIRUOiu then. Roll Eyes

Cas Smiley

Offline cfmdobbie

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« Reply #7 - Posted 2004-11-30 13:46:23 »

Quote
Ok, we'll call it Super QOIueroieuroUEOIRUOiu then. Roll Eyes


Excellent choice!  Although it does rather look like it might mean something rude in Klingon... Tongue

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Offline Tzan

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« Reply #8 - Posted 2004-11-30 15:28:46 »

Super Eddie is my hero!   Smiley
Offline princec

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« Reply #9 - Posted 2004-11-30 15:47:50 »

Don't worry I've got a surprise up me sleeve Smiley

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Offline Giddy

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« Reply #10 - Posted 2004-11-30 19:22:14 »

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Despite Super Elvis not actually being anything to do with Elvis Presley, being an original work, and containing no references to rock 'n' roll in the slightest...


riiight...



I think it is a good idea to change the name - and maybe even the Elvis sprite. A lot of silly lawsuits are going on, but I think whoever own the "Elvis brand" would have a pretty good case against the game formerly known as Super Elvis
Offline ap_kelly

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« Reply #11 - Posted 2004-11-30 19:32:30 »

I give you permission to use my name, I always wanted to be famous.

Super Andy!

or you could have

Super Puppy!

or

Super Pup!


Offline igf1

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« Reply #12 - Posted 2005-02-18 10:40:55 »

mmm no good sounds like super dog, maybe ..  "h2o pre teen starvation force"?


he said no er.. with his foot
Offline darkprophet

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« Reply #13 - Posted 2005-02-19 19:33:43 »

ok...found it, need not look any furthur cas!

Super Prophet! Cheesy

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Offline Anon666

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« Reply #14 - Posted 2006-02-05 17:41:51 »

How about Super Mohammad?
Offline oNyx

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« Reply #15 - Posted 2006-02-05 17:44:30 »

How about super necro?

(this is a zombie thread) :V

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Offline princec

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« Reply #16 - Posted 2006-02-12 11:05:20 »

I expect I'd have to replace the Elvis sprite with a white square or risk threats from loonies.

Cas Smiley

Offline Tzan

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« Reply #17 - Posted 2006-02-12 16:44:29 »

Or just make it invisible  Smiley
Offline Jeff

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« Reply #18 - Posted 2006-02-13 01:51:45 »

Actually, you are probably in the clear with Super Elvis on pure legal terms because you can easily claim it is satirical in nature, which is a protected form of expression in the US.

Having said that, yeah, if you dont want to or dont have the money go to court and fight then being right isnt worth jack s-it in the US.
(At least in England, if the suing party loses they have to pay ALL expenses.  Thats not true in the US unfortunately leading to all kidsn of tort-abuse.)

 

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Offline Jeff

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« Reply #19 - Posted 2006-02-13 01:53:43 »

How about taking a page from Apple....

When Carl Sagan theratened to sue because they had code named a release of MacOs "Sagan" they renamed  it "Butthead Astronomer".

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And his attacks can be tort-throws and injunctive relief bolts!

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« Reply #20 - Posted 2006-02-13 01:59:44 »

hmm, can a US thing really affect super elvis when its a UK product?
Offline Jeff

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« Reply #21 - Posted 2006-02-13 03:12:41 »

hmm, can a US thing really affect super elvis when its a UK product?

Yes, due to the international IP agreement to which the US and Great Brittan are both signatories.

Its possible however that if your only site taking payment is in England, they *might* have to file suit in *your* courts and under *your* laws, not ours....

If you really want an answer, check with your lawyer.  I am not a lawyer, and according to US law a non-lawyer giving legal advice is in of itself a crime.

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Offline princec

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« Reply #22 - Posted 2006-02-13 11:38:37 »

According to US law you appear to have recursively incriminated yourself then Smiley

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Offline nonnus29

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« Reply #23 - Posted 2006-02-13 22:43:40 »

oh teh noes !!!111

 Shocked

That'd be like recursive n double-jeopardy....
Offline Jeff

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« Reply #24 - Posted 2006-02-14 01:15:05 »

According to US law you appear to have recursively incriminated yourself then Smiley

Cas Smiley

Nah that wasnt legal advice thats was the clearly marked opinion of an amature.

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Offline Amos Wenger

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« Reply #25 - Posted 2006-02-24 16:09:39 »

Ok, we'll call it Super QOIueroieuroUEOIRUOiu then. Roll Eyes

Cas Smiley
Well, it's just a bit difficult to remember, but.. err... original.

EDIT: be careful, you have the "euro" word in it. You'll have to remove if you don't wanna have problems with Bruxelles.

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