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Offline DarkCart

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« Reply #30 - Posted 2018-09-29 16:46:13 »


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Offline nsigma
« Reply #31 - Posted 2018-10-03 11:28:19 »


Kind of ironic when you consider the careers of the actors involved.  Wink  I'm sticking with the forum, breaking bad as it may be! persecutioncomplex

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Offline SHC
« Reply #32 - Posted 2018-11-30 07:40:26 »

Hi guys,

I'm back on to try the migration to Flarum. Since I've last said that Flarum was going to make a lot of changes for this beta, they released a new version yesterday, which is 0.1.0-beta.8.

Here's the release page:

The major changes that happened were changes in the database models, and they changed the attribute names to better follow the Laravel conventions. The changes can be found in this PR:

The original migration tool I worked on that partially migrated the posts and topics is now invalid, as the changes were major, and in a few days (after fiddling with the new beta 8 instance) I'm gonna start again on the migration.

If anyone is interested, they are welcome to collaborate with me in this one. And in case there are more people, I wish to start a separate topic on the migration. I want to keep people updated on the progress, but if I'm the only one doing this, then I think the 6 consequent posts rule might get in the topic, so I'll just reply here instead.

And for people who ask why Flarum, feel free to suggest your favourite, and I propose that let's take a voting on what should host the new forum. Saying that, I strongly feel that it is better because

  • It is modern
  • It is free
  • It has an active community
  • It is less memory intensive

I'll get started in a few days on this thing. And by the way, I'll also list a few challenges I face.

  • Both Flarum and SMF has multiple tables and different structures. We have to get from multiple tables and insert into multiple tables.
  • The tables in Flarum and SMF cannot be mapped in a 1:1 way. It's a bit of a problem.
  • Doing it the functional way (read each topic, then each post in that topic, etc.,) is going to take a lot of time.

So I need a way to do the bulk transactions so that the migration is super fast. For now, I'll limit the migration to the first 100 topics, and make it work, and later let's optimize it.

See ya soon guys!

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Offline ral0r2
« Reply #33 - Posted 2018-11-30 12:45:13 »

I'd be up for helping you, i think it's a great thing. How ever I'm not really sure in what way, I guess we should talk about that in discord.
Offline SHC
« Reply #34 - Posted 2018-11-30 13:06:39 »

@ral0r2, I'm on Discord now, and will be on it for an hour. Thanks for stepping up!

Offline Pilvinen

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« Reply #35 - Posted 2018-12-19 22:21:38 »

Flarum is great. I use it myself for our project. But unfortunately it's lacking a lot of user management and thread management features currently which make the life of an admin a hard one.

But... I've also noticed that people don't really use it. Everyone is at Discord. If they've got something to say, they just want to blurt it out on Discord rather than make a proper post on the forums.

Not much that can be done about that. I even tried making a plugin which posts on Discord when there's a new thread on the forums, but it didn't result in increased forum activity.
Offline ShadyHippo

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« Reply #36 - Posted 2019-03-08 23:31:28 »

As a CS Student, I always kind of wondered why so many forums kind of just died after like 2016. It's really weird trying to find the most recent info on forums about *insert topic here* and having almost nothing after around 2016. It's very frustrating.
Offline Riven

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« Reply #37 - Posted 2019-08-12 07:19:02 »

I suspect the continued rise of stackoverflow was the final nail in the coffin.

I think we're seeing a centralization of information on the interwebs. Fewer and fewer sites hold all the information.

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Offline Drenius
« Reply #38 - Posted 2019-08-14 17:16:19 »

I suspect the continued rise of stackoverflow was the final nail in the coffin.

To be fair, from an end user (aka pretty much all of us here) perspective, that is a good thing. The average forum simply never was a good place to get information in the first place.

Ever tried getting some info on technology that hasn't been in wide use since the early 2000s lately? You will miss finding StackOverflow links badly.

This does kill off the community aspect. However, that was mostly a fortunate side-effect in the first place and other things like, yes, the Discord are stepping in here.


I think we're seeing a centralization of information on the interwebs. Fewer and fewer sites hold all the information.

while I would generally agree with this, here we are actually experiencing the opposite effect:
Separation of concerns.

Where we crammed everything into one place before, because we often only had one place, we are now using the right tool for each "job".
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