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  [Idea] Would anyone be interested in a Pure Java game jam?  (Read 22103 times)
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« Posted 2015-08-19 01:29:11 »

I had an idea for a game jam, where instead of using LWJGL, LibGDX, or whatever, you try to write a game in pure java. That means Swing, AWT, etc. There would be no size limit (just don't make it MASSIVE), and it wouldn't start until after LD this weekend. Would anyone be interested?

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« Reply #1 - Posted 2015-08-19 02:04:56 »

I would possibly be interested pending further details. Also, will JavaFX would be allowed? Seeing as it is included with Java 8, it might count as "pure" java?
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« Reply #2 - Posted 2015-08-19 02:06:25 »

I would possibly be interested pending further details. Also, will JavaFX would be allowed? Seeing as it is included with Java 8, it might count as "pure" java?

Yeah, JavaFX would totally be allowed

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« Reply #3 - Posted 2015-08-19 08:46:10 »

What's the point on insisting on "pure Java"?

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Offline Sickan
« Reply #4 - Posted 2015-08-19 08:52:23 »

What's the point in limiting it to "pure Java"? As if writing a game in "pure Java" didn't just mean that the native code was abstracted away from you?
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« Reply #5 - Posted 2015-08-19 08:56:18 »

From arbitrary restrictions we can derive "fun". So yay! for Pure Java, and JavaFX is actually reasonably good for games.

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« Reply #6 - Posted 2015-08-19 09:26:54 »

I wouldnt be interested in learning the intricacies of Java2D or JavaFX. Seems to have no value if I can just hone other skills that actually matter.

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« Reply #7 - Posted 2015-08-19 09:33:31 »

JavaFX is actually worth learning... it's quite good.

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« Reply #8 - Posted 2015-08-19 10:15:34 »

Could be fun. As a transferable, useful skill, JavaFX is certainly useful to have on your CV. And low-level graphics hacking should never be the main focus of game development. There are more important things to focus on, like playability, creativity and originality.

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« Reply #9 - Posted 2015-08-19 11:51:47 »

Would anyone be interested?

Sure. Bring back the glory days of just sending jars to each other!

(just don't make it MASSIVE)

Why not? Bring back the glory days of just sending massive jars to each other!

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« Reply #10 - Posted 2015-08-19 12:39:59 »

I'm all for this. Sounds really fun. Cheesy
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« Reply #11 - Posted 2015-08-19 20:44:44 »

Seeing that there are some people interested in it, I was thinking of starting the contest the Monday or Tuesday after Ludum Dare ends (by ends, I mean the time for submitting games ends). Is that ok?

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« Reply #12 - Posted 2015-08-19 20:58:23 »

Why so close to LD? Isn't the submission deadline the day that the Jam ends? I would move it way further out, at least a couple weeks before or after LD so that you can get as many people as possible!
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« Reply #13 - Posted 2015-08-19 22:21:08 »

Good point opiop.

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« Reply #14 - Posted 2015-08-19 22:31:15 »

Ok then, I see your point. When would you (not meaning you as just opiop, but the people interested in the jam) suggest it be?

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« Reply #15 - Posted 2015-08-20 00:22:30 »

Quite honestly I don't think it matters. Maybe closer to the holidays so people might have more time? I know that now that I have a full time job (like a lot of people on this forum), I barely have free time let alone enough to do an entire jam. Holiday season might give some people a little time off though!
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« Reply #16 - Posted 2015-08-20 01:10:19 »

Labor Day springs to mind. Does that sound ok?

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« Reply #17 - Posted 2015-08-20 02:24:39 »

You might not get a lot of well... over 21 people because alcohol and parties that day. But you're definitely heading in the right direction. I'd say you're best bet is probably closer to Christmas maybe?
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« Reply #18 - Posted 2015-08-20 09:59:29 »

<slowpoke>I'd be really interested</slowpoke>

But indeed not too soon after LD Smiley

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« Reply #19 - Posted 2015-08-20 12:36:31 »

I'd say you're best bet is probably closer to Christmas maybe?

By then we'll be having another Ludum Dare...

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« Reply #20 - Posted 2015-08-20 12:46:10 »

And here I am, coding using only JDK and "pure java" in Windows' text editor and command prompt persecutioncomplex

Anyway, I have to finish my game first, so I don't think I could be on it if it happens shortly Undecided
But maybe it could actually become a thing? Why not have that "pure java" contest every year or so? Pointing

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« Reply #21 - Posted 2015-08-20 13:03:54 »

I'd say you're best bet is probably closer to Christmas maybe?

By then we'll be having another Ludum Dare...
Oh oops, I forgot about that one. I don't know then, some random holiday weekend might work.
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« Reply #22 - Posted 2015-08-20 13:52:11 »

It'd probably be better to not shoot for a holiday, but more like a weekend, maybe a weekend in September or October, in hindsight

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« Reply #23 - Posted 2015-08-20 14:14:23 »

Brainstorming: perhaps LD might actually manage such a competition for you, under its auspices. Just a thought.

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« Reply #24 - Posted 2015-08-20 14:19:15 »

They do host mini-LDs every month or so. I'm not sure how you get to be the host, how "famous" you have to be, or how long the waiting list is though.

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« Reply #25 - Posted 2015-08-20 14:52:13 »

Well, I'm buddies with Mike Kasprzak so maybe I could whisper in his ear Smiley

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« Reply #26 - Posted 2015-08-20 19:21:30 »

Brainstorming: perhaps LD might actually manage such a competition for you, under its auspices. Just a thought.

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That would be pretty awesome, but...
They do host mini-LDs every month or so. I'm not sure how you get to be the host, how "famous" you have to be, or how long the waiting list is though.

He's right. For me, if internet fame were cars, I'd be an Edsel.  Tongue

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« Reply #27 - Posted 2015-08-20 20:51:59 »

For me, if internet fame were cars, I'd be an Edsel.  Tongue

I had to google what that was, which I think proves your point...

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« Reply #28 - Posted 2015-09-09 16:02:35 »

After some thought, I've decided on a time for the jam. I'm thinking of September 19th through September 26th. This will give people hopefully enough time to make games, despite having to go to school/work. What do you guys think? As always, this date is up for discussion

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Offline philfrei
« Reply #29 - Posted 2015-09-10 02:04:10 »

I like the idea of having a full week. Most jams are over weekends, and I work a full day on Saturdays, which makes it hard to participate. Are we allowing teams?

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