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Offline endolf

JGO Coder


Medals: 7


Current project release date: sometime in 3003


« Posted 2004-01-20 12:02:41 »

Gawd darn it
 is there no escape from spam email, I am proud to announce that today I have received my first piece of spam to my dev.java.net email address. How the little £"$%^ got that address I dunno, must have been harvested from the wiki or bug database, guess I have to remove that address from the auto pass spam filter. Grrr

</rant>

Endolf

Offline Matzon

JGO Knight


Medals: 19
Projects: 1


I'm gonna wring your pants!


« Reply #1 - Posted 2004-01-20 12:30:24 »

can't avoid 'em Cry
- but Mailwasher + Mozilla Junk mail filtering keeps my inbox clean

Offline endolf

JGO Coder


Medals: 7


Current project release date: sometime in 3003


« Reply #2 - Posted 2004-01-20 12:40:12 »

Spamassasin with razor 2 does mine, but my dev.java.net address is directed to a different folder, and *was* marked in the to whitelist, but I guess I'll have to start filtering it. I don't use mozillas filter as from work I have to use my webmail setup, at home I use mozilla, so I want something that works with both, so it's a fetchmail exim exiscan spamassasin f-prot razor procmail combo that keeps me happy, except when it breaks Smiley

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Offline Raghar

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Ue ni taete 'ru hitomi ni kono mi wa dou utsuru


« Reply #3 - Posted 2004-01-22 20:55:20 »

Strange I have, after 3 years on Internet, just few spams per year. I would have even less if my relatives didn't have that virus and if they would use my e-mail less carelessly.
Offline swpalmer

JGO Coder




Where's the Kaboom?


« Reply #4 - Posted 2004-01-22 22:56:34 »

80-90% of the email I receive is SPAM.  Thankfully the Mail program on OS X does a decent job of filtering it.

I see my "junk" box has 29 messages in it now. And I cleared it out earlier today.

The UN needs to make some sort of international anti-spam law that member nations agree to enforce... Try to make it so spammers can't just work from another country.

The penalty should be for the offender to pay for every spammed person's internet use for at least a year. Smiley

Offline Matzon

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Medals: 19
Projects: 1


I'm gonna wring your pants!


« Reply #5 - Posted 2004-01-23 04:44:46 »

I just pray that one of them get caught, and turns out to be from Denmark - we have pretty strict laws against it:
A minimum fine of ~ $1000, but if you spam with more than ~100 mails, you're fined $10 FOR EACH SPAM MAIL!

Unfortunatly, very few spammers are from Denmark Sad

Offline princec

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Eh? Who? What? ... Me?


« Reply #6 - Posted 2004-01-23 08:24:22 »

It's about time a new infrastructure for email was designed that simply doesn't allow SPAM. It seems to be a rather elusive goal, however...

Cas Smiley

Offline blahblahblahh

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« Reply #7 - Posted 2004-01-23 09:34:46 »

How about this: Someone was upset about Atari's laying off of the Legends team (or something; I've received lots of dull rants about it) and copy/pasted email addresses from news sites onto a forum post, asking people to mail ALL the addresses and complain, including one where I'd put up a press release.

So now I'm getting all these whinging emails about Atari. This *ought* to be covered by the laws that make it illegal (IIRC) for you to post someone's tel number etc in a public place and incite large numbers of people to call them, but sadly I doubt it. I just hope the volume of mail doesn't get big (can't filter by domain, there's no common addresses Sad ).

malloc will be first against the wall when the revolution comes...
Offline Breakfast

Senior Member




for great justice!


« Reply #8 - Posted 2004-01-23 15:03:40 »

You can always turn to the potent forces of Popfile which outlook and Exchange users can combine with Outclass for better integration. You still have to download the messages but I just let Outclass redirect the spam to my deleted items folder and empty it once or twice a day. It uses Bayesian filtering - I have only had a couple of false positives in all the time I've been running them and very little spam manages to sneak past.
kul_th_las
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« Reply #9 - Posted 2004-02-06 16:42:37 »

I have to also give my support to PopFile. It's a fantastic little program, and I've had a lot of success with it as well.

As far as whether or not there is an escape, I'd like to see a completely redesigned Internet, from the ground up, with built in security/spam killing, and other features that fix many of the biggest problems with the current model.

Do I ask too much? Probably, but unless something big comes along to change the way we use the Internet as it is today, I see a new model coming of age within 10-15 years time - whether it be a restucting of network architecture, a software solution, or whatever. Until then, I quietly wait. Call me crazy if you like.

I don't think that the problem is the people on the Internet (because I think it's too late to do anything about that now), I think its a systemic problem.
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