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Offline heisenbergman

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« Posted 2013-07-01 04:18:19 »

Has anyone here tried out the latest Eclipse release yet? Thoughts?

Do you regularly the version of the IDE that you Eclipse-users use? Or for that matter, is it generally a good/bad idea to keep up-to-date with the latest releases?

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« Reply #1 - Posted 2013-07-01 04:25:48 »

I've got it and like it. At this point, the main difference I see is that the editor no longer hangs when doing autocomplete like it did with Juno. I typically upgrade soon after releases are available and I have not had any problems. I don't use a whole lot of plugins though.
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« Reply #2 - Posted 2013-07-01 04:31:45 »

the editor no longer hangs when doing autocomplete like it did with Juno.

Oh nice. This is indeed a minor gripe I have with Juno.

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Offline Agro
« Reply #3 - Posted 2013-07-01 05:05:59 »

I was looking into some visual changes but I didn't see any. ): Other than that, that small lag on Juno fix seems to be cool.

Back to IDEA 8D

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« Reply #4 - Posted 2013-07-01 06:07:57 »

So we can establish it's an improvement from Juno.

Now the question is: Is it better than Indigo?

Offline gimbal

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« Reply #5 - Posted 2013-07-01 08:01:44 »

Now the question is: Is it better than Indigo?

That depends on what you do with it. For the purposes of game development - you might as well stick with Indigo. Unless you heavily use GIT, then Keppler might be of some help.

If you're dependent on lots of plugins, which tends to happen when you are building enterprise/web stuff, then upgrading is a good idea to be able to stay up to date. Core Eclipse updates tend to be more internal (framework/SDK/API) than external anyway.
Offline ReBirth
« Reply #6 - Posted 2013-07-01 11:19:23 »

Too scary to update. My Indigo is working well until now.

Offline Bob Strawn

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« Reply #7 - Posted 2013-07-16 16:00:41 »

I have now tested kepler in 64bit and 32bit windows environments.  Not extensively, but so far I like it.  The hop from indigo to juno was not painless and not worth it.  The hop from juno to kepler is pretty clean. 

I am including links just for convenience, here is my update process;

I downloaded and installed the latest JDK for windows, not the EE version.  http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jdk7-downloads-1880260.html
I downloaded Kepler, the EE version.  I have no real clue what is the best version for me so I went with EE.  http://www.eclipse.org/downloads/
I copied my various workspaces to a folder labeled Juno Workspaces. 
I started up Kepler on my nastiest biggest worst kludged workspace and ran my worst project.  Seemed OK, no real issues.
I highlighted the project and did a Source-Cleanup on it.  I looked over and accepted a rather large chunk of changes and ran it again.  Faster startup, and smoother.
I ran source-organize imports, sort members and finally format.  Code runs fine.
the auto suggest seems solid, control-z and control-y are fine.  Control-F seems to pop up faster.

I have not yet imported anything but I played a bit with the build paths and it seemed smooth enough.  So far, I like Kepler a lot more than Juno.   
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« Reply #8 - Posted 2013-07-16 19:35:00 »

So, has the syntax highlighting been fixed?
Offline Bob Strawn

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« Reply #9 - Posted 2013-07-17 05:55:00 »

Syntax highlighting seems to be working fine.  The default color of the highlighting is way to subtle however.  Subtle as in nothing, no color, just a frame.   Fortunately that is resolvable, if you go to Window - Preferences - Editor - Text Editors - Annotations - Occurrences, you can change to color to something a bit more apparent.   

While I was in the area I made a few more changes, the defaults err strongly in the 'use mature colors and avoid distraction' direction.  While I prefer a gentle touch to color use in editors, I also like clear indication. 
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Offline gimbal

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« Reply #10 - Posted 2013-07-18 09:56:27 »

The hop from juno to kepler is pretty clean. 

I notice no difference at all to be honest Smiley Note: Juno 4.2.2 -> Kepler.

You 'need' the EE version if you want to do any kind of web or JavaEE type development; you can do your work just fine using the regular Java perspective (in fact the JavaEE perspective is really unhelpful in my opinion) but the EE version adds the Eclipse WTP plugin out of the box, which plugins rely on and allows you to do server deployments from the IDE. If you don't do any kind of web development, you might as well stick to the regular Eclipse for Java programmers version so you're not bothered by all the additional menu options and features.
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« Reply #11 - Posted 2013-07-18 10:30:07 »

So, has the syntax highlighting been fixed?

Yup.
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« Reply #12 - Posted 2013-07-22 21:04:45 »

Confession: I tried to install Eclipse recently to use the Google App Engine SDK but it was way to confusing. The installer didn't seem to install anything, just a lot of stuff but no eclipse.exe that I vaguely recall from before I jumped ship to IntelliJ.

In the end I went back to using IntelliJ and and the App Engine ANT scripts.

Offline gimbal

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« Reply #13 - Posted 2013-07-23 09:36:23 »

I did notice one oddity yesterday in Kepler. Whenever I close and reopen the IDE, java source files that I had open do not re-open, unless it was the active document apparently. It does not seem to happen for other file types. A bit annoying. Strangely enough I cannot find a bug report for it, so I'm wondering if it is just a me-problem.
Offline Cero
« Reply #14 - Posted 2013-07-23 14:34:28 »

Too scary to update. My Indigo is working well until now.
This.

Kepler is a cool name though :D

Offline Sammidysam
« Reply #15 - Posted 2013-07-23 19:11:15 »

I have it installed, but haven't used it yet.  I need to look more into configuring it better so that I can run my ant buildfile then launch the created JAR, run it with the terminal, etc.
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« Reply #16 - Posted 2013-07-23 21:16:37 »

Use "classic" Eclipse, it doesn't have as many shit plugins. You don't need the EE version for webshit. WTP sucks anyway, it deploys before running rather than just running from the project dir. I'm so glad I don't have to do enterprise crap anymore. Smiley

Offline ReBirth
« Reply #17 - Posted 2013-07-24 03:30:23 »

Well, linux system teaches to not upgrade/update/change if nothing broke.

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« Reply #18 - Posted 2013-07-24 08:41:00 »

The hop from juno to kepler is pretty clean. 

I notice no difference at all to be honest Smiley Note: Juno 4.2.2 -> Kepler.

Same here. Most of the features are subtle.

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Offline Herjan
« Reply #19 - Posted 2013-07-26 20:49:19 »

I had an old Juno (1 year old) had no problems with it (I always used 'normal swing'), until I wanted to use some plugins (using libGDX because of so many positive reactions and Android + iOS + html + pc's programming all at the same time is cool) ,so yeah..
Had to upgrade... The plugins work great now!

Offline ReBirth
« Reply #20 - Posted 2013-07-28 02:44:10 »

If only I can working with libgdx in Sublime Text 2... Grin

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