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Offline Cero
« Reply #30 - Posted 2013-05-28 19:05:02 »

I have switched to nvidia just for better Linux support.
But alas I haven't used Linux is a long while... but I hear the new Mint is excellent like always. Have nothing against Ubuntu per se, version 8 was great, but I loathe Unity.

Give me the Adobe Suite for Linux and then you could talk. I need to do video, image and audio editing on a regular basis, and I don't have time to learn inferior alternatives.

Steam and Adobe Suite and we are all set.

Offline ReBirth
« Reply #31 - Posted 2013-05-29 01:54:13 »

Remember the first rule on dual-boot: You have to install the badass one later so its boot loader can detect the suck one.

Offline Sammidysam
« Reply #32 - Posted 2013-05-29 02:28:17 »

Definitely the case in Windows-Linux.  GRUB 2 is much prettier than the Windows Boot Loader.
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Offline SHC
« Reply #33 - Posted 2013-05-29 06:14:27 »

Remember the first rule on dual-boot: You have to install the badass one later so its boot loader can detect the suck one.

There's an option to use windows bootloader to boot unix. You can even use it to boot your mac. See EasyBCD at http://www.techspot.com/downloads/3112-easybcd.html

Offline ReBirth
« Reply #34 - Posted 2013-05-29 06:39:14 »

We use that when it can't be helped, like you have linux first and want to add another. But heck I remember you can edit your grub by some lines of code to fix it.

Offline Sammidysam
« Reply #35 - Posted 2013-05-29 13:41:21 »

So I've had problems with my video drivers moving to Fedora 18.  I made a Fedora Forum post here describing the issue.  I haven't gotten any help there.  If anyone could help me out, please do so.  My screen is stuck at a resolution smaller than it can support on Windows, and it is annoying.
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« Reply #36 - Posted 2013-05-29 14:38:40 »

So I've had problems with my video drivers moving to Fedora 18.  I made a Fedora Forum post here describing the issue.  I haven't gotten any help there.  If anyone could help me out, please do so.  My screen is stuck at a resolution smaller than it can support on Windows, and it is annoying.

Perhaps the fedora forums are simply not so active. Its also not really related to a Linux distro, its more a topic for an nVidia forum.

I dig back into my brain and the only thing that I can remember is that when I had trouble with resolutions it was actually the configuration of the monitor and not the videocard that was wrong... but boy is that a vague memory, we're talking 12-15 years ago. Based on your problem description it seems you don't get widescreen resolutions.
Offline Sammidysam
« Reply #37 - Posted 2013-05-29 14:40:13 »

On Windows I get 1366x768 resolution, so I'm just wondering why I can't get the same on Fedora.  I do get wide-screen resolutions, as my monitor is wide-screen and on Windows I do.
Offline sproingie

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« Reply #38 - Posted 2013-05-29 14:41:43 »

Have you installed the nvidia proprietary drivers?

http://www.if-not-true-then-false.com/2013/fedora-18-nvidia-guide/

Offline philfrei
« Reply #39 - Posted 2013-05-29 14:43:00 »

I went dual boot about six months ago. I'm posting more to get notified of advice than to contribute.

I've been doing "CattleDrive" course problems there. The "CattleDrive" is a course from JavaRanch, getting into JSP & database access. I've installed the Apache web server, and am using Ant, to get another perspective. But I still do most of my Java writing in Windows, via Eclipse. After getting through the course (or maybe somewhere along the way) I'll install a proper IDE.

I ended up loading the Oracle Java 7 SDK. I can't recall if there was a specific problem with the "default" Open JDK that led me to this. And it was a bit of an adventure figuring out a way to get all this configured, being new to Linux. Overall, I like the Ubuntu OS just fine.


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Offline Sammidysam
« Reply #40 - Posted 2013-05-29 14:44:10 »

I have the exception 1.2 so that guide does not work for me.  One time I did install them, however, and nothing changed, so then I ran nvidia-xconfig and then GNOME froze upon start-up.  Then in text mode I had to delete xorg.conf.  I could try again, though.
Offline Danny02
« Reply #41 - Posted 2013-05-29 15:02:20 »

didn't you say that you have an optimus card?(all none medieval nvidia laptop cards)

You must use Bumblebee to have access to your gc, do not change your xconf with nvidia settings(nvidia-xconf)!!

my advice to you would be to restore everything as much as possible to the default.
- default xconf
- delete everything from nvidia "sudo yum remove nvidia*"

try the tutorial I posted again.
Offline Sammidysam
« Reply #42 - Posted 2013-05-29 15:52:31 »

didn't you say that you have an optimus card?(all none medieval nvidia laptop cards)

You must use Bumblebee to have access to your gc, do not change your xconf with nvidia settings(nvidia-xconf)!!

my advice to you would be to restore everything as much as possible to the default.
- default xconf
- delete everything from nvidia "sudo yum remove nvidia*"

try the tutorial I posted again.


Bumblebee was already set up.  I did the two things: deleted /etc/X11/xorg.conf and yum remove akmod-nvidia and then it would run normally again, except that I still can't get the resolution right D:::

I can, though, optirun stuff and then for glxgears I get about a 2.4x speed increase and for glxspheres a 12-13x speed increase, so it is obviously working.  I just want to know why I can't get this resolution right.  It's annoying.
Offline gouessej
« Reply #43 - Posted 2013-05-29 18:17:59 »

Hi

I advise you to use the open source driver and to report bugs, it's "better" on the long term. If the manufacturer decides for you that you have to renew your hardware, he will just stop maintaining his driver for your graphics card.

I don't advise you to use Steam. GNU Linux is about freedom, not DRMs and there are tons of nice free and open source games for this family of operating system. I use Mageia Linux, I don't have annoying Amazon ads and weird Unity window manager, it works very well out of the box, some people in my family use it even though they are not computer engineers. I have seen a lot of prejudices in this thread whereas the use of GNU Linux has become easier than in the very beginning, installing Debian in 2003 was so painful...

Offline Sammidysam
« Reply #44 - Posted 2013-05-29 19:04:38 »

I have fixed my error!  This forum post led me to the answer.  Now I get my good resolution, and I am very happy!  The only problem still is that some error happens with bbswitch from bumblebee almost every time I turn on the computer.  It's no error I can notice though, so no big worries there.  The little error reported notification is the only annoying thing.  Is it possible to turn that off?  Also Skype has weird notifications that don't come through the standard way, but that's not too bad.  It's just because Skype doesn't care about Linux.  Does anyone know of an open-source program that would simulate Skype, i.e. Pithos simulating Pandora?
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« Reply #45 - Posted 2013-05-30 03:56:02 »

I don't advise you to use Steam. GNU Linux is about freedom, not DRMs and there are tons of nice free and open source games for this family of operating system.

By saying not to get games with DRM because Linux is about freedom, you yourself are trying to restrict freedom. Tongue

Offline sproingie

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« Reply #46 - Posted 2013-05-30 03:57:23 »

I advise you to use the open source driver and to report bugs, it's "better" on the long term. If the manufacturer decides for you that you have to renew your hardware, he will just stop maintaining his driver for your graphics card.

I don't advise you to use Steam. GNU Linux is about freedom, not DRMs
(blah blah blah)

You are not actually helping him.  Not even one little bit.
Offline deepthought
« Reply #47 - Posted 2013-05-30 13:23:51 »

don't listen to these people who say "don't use X because it's proprietary". If the proprietary version is better (not necessarily saying it is) use it. you probably don't care about the source code anyways, especially for a graphics driver.

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« Reply #48 - Posted 2013-05-30 16:14:01 »

Steam on Linux is about freedom too - it's about trying to keep a channel open for delivering games that is not controlled by Microsoft, Google or Apple. As the proprietary OSes get locked down, people are trying to move their business models to Linux, and I think that will ultimately strengthen Linux.

Offline ReBirth
« Reply #49 - Posted 2013-05-31 02:46:28 »

Pick one, install, change if not work. As simple as that.

Oh btw use Mint, Ubuntu without ads Cheesy

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« Reply #50 - Posted 2013-05-31 02:49:31 »

As the proprietary OSes get locked down, people are trying to move their business models to Linux, and I think that will ultimately strengthen Linux.

It won't strengthen Linux, it will just kill all the competition.
Linux is more than strong enough already.

Offline Sammidysam
« Reply #51 - Posted 2013-05-31 03:15:09 »

Pick one, install, change if not work. As simple as that.

Oh btw use Mint, Ubuntu without ads Cheesy

It seems to me like Mint's graphical interface is a lot nicer than Ubuntu's also.  I have no idea why, but I could just not stand Ubuntu's GUI very well.  I think Mint's looks pretty good, but it's a bit too much like Windows for me.  If I am looking for an alternative to Windows, I don't necessarily want something that looks just like it.  I actually really like GNOME Shell 3 with Fedora 18.  Many people hate it it sounds like, but it's a very nice interface that takes up barely any space on the screen until you need to switch applications.  That's convenient to me.
Offline ReBirth
« Reply #52 - Posted 2013-05-31 03:20:31 »

You can change the "theme". Mint has some variants, like the one with debian (Fedora) base so you can use that gnome shell, cinnamon, mate, and even xfce. I use Mint 14 Mate, single boot no other OS.

Edit: I picked Mate because it's feel like OSX and I don't have OSX.

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« Reply #53 - Posted 2013-05-31 03:24:52 »

I use Mint 13 with KDE (with the Oxygen theme).

I guess it sort of looks like Windows, but only because of the way I configured the themes.

Offline Agro
« Reply #54 - Posted 2013-05-31 03:41:31 »

I'm probably going to switch back to Arch Linux soon. Ubuntu is becoming too mainstream for me, but its all good for now. Arch is an awesome OS, but the thing that made Linux cool was that it was little known and only used in technology companies back then,

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« Reply #55 - Posted 2013-05-31 05:47:25 »

I just tried out Arch Linux about a week ago. Wonderful OS! Grin

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« Reply #56 - Posted 2013-05-31 05:49:13 »

I have Arch Linux ARM on my Raspberry Pi, and I approve.

Offline gimbal

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« Reply #57 - Posted 2013-05-31 12:01:45 »

I'm probably going to switch back to Arch Linux soon.

Indeed, Arch was the one that appealed to me the most too; in this day and age of bloat I like things that stick to KISS. And the package manager is called Pacman, I mean come on that is an instant win.
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« Reply #58 - Posted 2013-05-31 12:05:42 »

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Offline kpars

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« Reply #59 - Posted 2013-05-31 15:51:19 »

Arch Linux was a great experience, I got it after rage-quitting from all of the stuff you have to deal with on Ubuntu.
Ubuntu just doesn't feel like Linux for me anymore.

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