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Offline sci4me

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« Posted 2013-04-24 21:02:50 »

Hey guys. So I have an hp h8-1234 computer. I recently switched to linux. I like linux a TON more than windows. The only issue is that my graphics drivers are kinda crappy... and because of that, my framerate is TERRIBLE. I used to get 60 fps on max graphics settings. Now I get like 10 on the worst settings... playing minecraft. So... yeah... if anyone has any ideas on what I could do... I'm not sure if there are better drivers out there... so... yeah. I've literally been considering going back to windows where I have drivers that dont suck... so i can actually play... If you have an ideas, please reply!
Offline deepthought
« Reply #1 - Posted 2013-04-24 21:17:25 »

Have you actually installed drivers? type GLXinfo into the terminal. I'm betting you're using MESA which isn't hardware accelerated.

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Offline sci4me

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« Reply #2 - Posted 2013-04-24 21:20:20 »

GLXinfo .. command isnt found

edit: nvm i got it, how do i tell if its hardware accelerated?
edit2: yeah it says mesa.. so i need to go find the correct drivers to install then? perhaps a link?
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Offline gouessej
« Reply #3 - Posted 2013-04-24 21:46:20 »

Maybe you're not using direct rendering.

I use Mesa but it works with direct rendering, it is nice for me:

name of display: :0
display: :0  screen: 0
direct rendering: Yes
server glx vendor string: SGI
server glx version string: 1.4
server glx extensions:
    GLX_ARB_multisample, GLX_EXT_import_context, GLX_EXT_texture_from_pixmap,
    GLX_EXT_visual_info, GLX_EXT_visual_rating, GLX_INTEL_swap_event,
    GLX_MESA_copy_sub_buffer, GLX_OML_swap_method, GLX_SGIS_multisample,
    GLX_SGIX_fbconfig, GLX_SGIX_pbuffer, GLX_SGIX_visual_select_group,
    GLX_SGI_swap_control,
client glx vendor string: Mesa Project and SGI
client glx version string: 1.4
client glx extensions:
    GLX_ARB_create_context, GLX_ARB_create_context_profile,
    GLX_ARB_get_proc_address, GLX_ARB_multisample,
    GLX_EXT_create_context_es2_profile, GLX_EXT_framebuffer_sRGB,
    GLX_EXT_import_context, GLX_EXT_texture_from_pixmap, GLX_EXT_visual_info,
    GLX_EXT_visual_rating, GLX_INTEL_swap_event, GLX_MESA_copy_sub_buffer,
    GLX_MESA_multithread_makecurrent, GLX_MESA_swap_control,
    GLX_OML_swap_method, GLX_OML_sync_control, GLX_SGIS_multisample,
    GLX_SGIX_fbconfig, GLX_SGIX_pbuffer, GLX_SGIX_visual_select_group,
    GLX_SGI_make_current_read, GLX_SGI_swap_control, GLX_SGI_video_sync,
GLX version: 1.4
GLX extensions:
    GLX_ARB_get_proc_address, GLX_ARB_multisample, GLX_EXT_import_context,
    GLX_EXT_texture_from_pixmap, GLX_EXT_visual_info, GLX_EXT_visual_rating,
    GLX_MESA_copy_sub_buffer, GLX_MESA_multithread_makecurrent,
    GLX_MESA_swap_control, GLX_OML_swap_method, GLX_OML_sync_control,
    GLX_SGIS_multisample, GLX_SGIX_fbconfig, GLX_SGIX_pbuffer,
    GLX_SGIX_visual_select_group, GLX_SGI_make_current_read,
    GLX_SGI_swap_control, GLX_SGI_video_sync,
OpenGL vendor string: Tungsten Graphics, Inc.
OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI R200 (RV280 5C61) x86/MMX+/3DNow!+/SSE TCL DRI2
OpenGL version string: 1.3 Mesa 8.0.4

Offline sci4me

Junior Devvie





« Reply #4 - Posted 2013-04-24 22:21:35 »

i just installed.. some driver.. i found a tutorial for my os/card and it increased my fps .. a bit... like.. i get like 40 fps now .. but thats plus or minus 10-20... so.. idk. its better... but.. meh
Offline deepthought
« Reply #5 - Posted 2013-04-25 00:01:37 »

it has a AMD card, right? use the catalyst driver from the website.

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Offline ReBirth
« Reply #6 - Posted 2013-04-25 02:10:36 »

FYI I use AMD APU here (E-450) and Catalyst 12.11 beta11 here. The stable release (13) gave black screen.

So if the newest version doesn't solve it, try older ones.

Offline zngga
« Reply #7 - Posted 2013-04-25 02:31:48 »

This is my exact situation as well and I was able to solve it, not without headache and diligence, by installing Oracle's JRE, and the proper ATI Catalyst driver. The later is the more difficult of the two, as older drivers are no longer supported by ATI. Run 'lspci' to find out what graphics card you have



then find an apropriate driver from here


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Offline gouessej
« Reply #8 - Posted 2013-04-25 18:34:40 »

This is my exact situation as well and I was able to solve it, not without headache and diligence, by installing Oracle's JRE, and the proper ATI Catalyst driver
If Minecraft has a problem with OpenJDK, Minecraft must be fixed, the solution doesn't consist in encouraging all Linux users to drop OpenJDK.

Offline ReBirth
« Reply #9 - Posted 2013-04-25 23:41:56 »

If Minecraft has a problem with OpenJDK, Minecraft must be fixed, the solution doesn't consist in encouraging all Linux users to drop OpenJDK.
This. What called "sense". Tired hearing linux users blamed for using openJDK.

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Offline princec

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« Reply #10 - Posted 2013-04-26 10:38:09 »

We're firmly staying with OpenJDK on Mac and Linux now. We may even switch to OpenJDK on Windows as well, for consistency.

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« Reply #11 - Posted 2013-04-26 18:41:20 »

This is my exact situation as well and I was able to solve it, not without headache and diligence, by installing Oracle's JRE, and the proper ATI Catalyst driver
If Minecraft has a problem with OpenJDK, Minecraft must be fixed, the solution doesn't consist in encouraging all Linux users to drop OpenJDK.
What the hell? Exactly what kind of "problems" are we talking about here? To me it sounds like you're saying that it's Minecraft's responsibility to work around VM bugs, though I can't say I have much knowledge at all about OpenJDK so I might be mistaken here. Clueless

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Offline sci4me

Junior Devvie





« Reply #12 - Posted 2013-04-28 17:27:41 »

... yeah, so like i said, i installed that driver.. and it removed my lag completely but... when i open minecraft, MOST OF THE TIME, it has this weird bug where its flashing back and forth between whatevers behind the window... and i cant seem to get it to stop happening... not really sure ..
Offline sci4me

Junior Devvie





« Reply #13 - Posted 2013-04-28 19:38:52 »

This is my exact situation as well and I was able to solve it, not without headache and diligence, by installing Oracle's JRE, and the proper ATI Catalyst driver. The later is the more difficult of the two, as older drivers are no longer supported by ATI. Run 'lspci' to find out what graphics card you have



then find an apropriate driver from here


I did the amd thing... it doesnt work at all. It says the graphics adapter isnt supported..
Offline zngga
« Reply #14 - Posted 2013-04-28 21:52:04 »

Like I said, ATI stopped supporting older drivers for Linux, and as distributions evolve; more and more of them require recent drivers. So if you have an older card, your kinda boned. It may help us help you if we knew what card you have...?

As far as switching JREs, and staying true to openJDK: I absolutely love what openJDK is trying to do and I appreciate how far it has come in a relatively short time frame, but if we are talking about a way to 'instantly' solve an issue (no matter which party is to blame) and get something that is currently broken working again, which is what I thought we were talking/asked about, then I see nothing wrong with my solution.

My code never has bugs... it just develops unexpected features!
Offline sci4me

Junior Devvie





« Reply #15 - Posted 2013-04-30 22:33:55 »

just to fallow up, the graphics bugs i was having were COMPLETELY my fault. Now, I can play minecraft at 70 fps with mods at the best visual settings. so, thanks for the support! i can now REALLY enjoy plating! Smiley
Offline deepthought
« Reply #16 - Posted 2013-04-30 23:19:54 »

How did you solve it?

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Offline ReBirth
« Reply #17 - Posted 2013-05-01 10:36:36 »

Yeah don't left here, entertain us with your fail story! Grin

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