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Offline Sunsword

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« Posted 2013-04-18 18:58:55 »

The site's currently down, confirmed using http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/java4k.com.  DNS entries are still active, but it's not responding to pings.  That's about the extent of the investigating I can do, maybe appel or another admin can check it out?  It was up and running fine when I last visited at 3pm ADT yesterday.
Offline Sunsword

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« Reply #1 - Posted 2013-04-18 20:21:04 »

All good now, the site is back up.
Offline ReBirth
« Reply #2 - Posted 2013-04-19 04:06:55 »

Next time maybe wait for one day or longer before making thread about this because sometimes it happens.

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Offline Sunsword

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« Reply #3 - Posted 2013-04-19 14:05:20 »

Next time maybe wait for one day or longer before making thread about this because sometimes it happens.

Well, I waited for 4 hours before starting the thread, which makes about 6 hours of downtime from the time I noticed it (no idea of total downtime.)  In fact, it's down again right now.
Offline Regenuluz
« Reply #4 - Posted 2013-04-19 14:21:21 »

Yup, it's not loading for me either. ^^
Offline Sunsword

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« Reply #5 - Posted 2013-04-19 19:58:29 »

Next time maybe wait for one day or longer before making thread about this because sometimes it happens.

Well, I waited for 4 hours before starting the thread, which makes about 6 hours of downtime from the time I noticed it (no idea of total downtime.)  In fact, it's down again right now.

Above was posted at 9:05AM ADT.  As of right now (3:01PM ADT), the site is back up.  I've been checking once an hour all day, so downtime today was at least 5 hours.

Might be worth talking to the network host, as having 11 hours of downtime (at least that much) in a 48 hour period is pretty bad.
Offline Sunsword

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« Reply #6 - Posted 2013-04-29 18:55:01 »

If I understand this graph correctly (link to current Netcraft graph, the site has been down for the past 24 hours.
Offline moogie

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« Reply #7 - Posted 2013-04-30 02:59:02 »

I can confirm that it was down for that period as i was going to see how nicely a j4k game will play on a eee pc netbook but couldnt Sad
Offline appel

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« Reply #8 - Posted 2013-04-30 22:28:22 »

It was misbehaving some time ago, and I almost gave up on it, then it became stable. Now in recent days it's been bad. I've replaced hardware in the server to pinpoint the hardware error. Hopefully this time around it's going to behave. If not I'll fix it by getting another box, because the current one is obviously flawed.

Sorry about it, it's a bit tricky to pinpoint which hardware module is flawed, and I like to play the game of elimination before I spend $$ on new stuff. You have to wait and see.

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Offline Sunsword

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« Reply #9 - Posted 2013-05-01 19:07:46 »

It was misbehaving some time ago, and I almost gave up on it, then it became stable. Now in recent days it's been bad. I've replaced hardware in the server to pinpoint the hardware error. Hopefully this time around it's going to behave. If not I'll fix it by getting another box, because the current one is obviously flawed.

Sorry about it, it's a bit tricky to pinpoint which hardware module is flawed, and I like to play the game of elimination before I spend $$ on new stuff. You have to wait and see.

No worries, it performed well for the contest period, that's the most important part of the year.  Smiley  I just wanted to make sure someone knew.

PS: Thanks for hosting the site, I just assumed we were using a free webhost somewhere.
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Offline Sunsword

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« Reply #10 - Posted 2013-05-22 20:45:46 »

Just FYI @appel - the site has been down for the past 7 hours.
Offline Sunsword

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« Reply #11 - Posted 2013-05-22 21:09:49 »

I like to play the game of elimination before I spend $$ on new stuff.

Is the site just PHP backed by MySQL or something like that?  If so, you could switch to a free host.  There are a number of hosts like www.000webhost.com that provide PHP, MySQL and a decent amount of space and bandwidth/data transfer for free.  Not that bandwidth is much of a problem I suppose, with the jars being only 4KB!  Wink
Offline appel

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« Reply #12 - Posted 2013-06-17 23:46:30 »

I'm in the process of moving the site to a new host, a more reliable one.

Unfortunately the site will be down in the meantime, the next 24 hours or so.


edit: the site is back up and running on the new host.

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Offline appel

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« Reply #13 - Posted 2013-06-18 21:43:06 »

This is realllllllly retarded.

I'm getting "Incompatible magic value 1008813135 in ..." error on almost every applet. No idea what is causing this.

After some googling it says that the "1008813135 " value translates into "<!DO". Which is strange, because the applets that are being sent from the new host are identical to the ones on the old host, I compared them with the original copies that I have verified and no difference.

Either this is only at my end or something is really fubar with java applets (wouldn't be the first!).

Anyone let me know if they can find out what's going on?

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Offline ra4king

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« Reply #14 - Posted 2013-06-18 22:19:38 »

Wow that is weird. Are you sure the server sends the class files properly without modification on the way?

Offline Riven
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« Reply #15 - Posted 2013-06-18 22:20:10 »

wget to the rescue

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Offline Mike

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« Reply #16 - Posted 2013-06-18 22:26:24 »

A quick search showed that clearing the java cache can solve this specific issue.

So: Go to Java Control Panel, "General" tab, and under "Temporary Internet Files" click "Settings", then click "Delete Files"

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Offline Riven
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« Reply #17 - Posted 2013-06-18 22:27:54 »

You're probably not sending the right http headers... given that 'almost every applet' crashes (pack200) and some apparently work (jars).

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Offline appel

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« Reply #18 - Posted 2013-06-18 23:07:52 »

It *should* be sending the same headers, as its the same script.

Here's my result:


C:\Program Files (x86)\GnuWin32\bin>wget --server-response http://www.java4k.com
/applet.php?gid=448
SYSTEM_WGETRC = c:/progra~1/wget/etc/wgetrc
syswgetrc = C:\Program Files (x86)\GnuWin32/etc/wgetrc
--2013-06-18 21:07:58--  http://www.java4k.com/applet.php?gid=448
Resolving www.java4k.com... 31.170.162.194
Connecting to www.java4k.com|31.170.162.194|:80... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response...
 HTTP/1.1 200 OK
  Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2013 21:08:02 GMT
  Server: Apache
  X-Powered-By: PHP/5.2.17
  Set-Cookie: PHPSESSID=xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; path=/
  Expires: 0
  Cache-Control: must-revalidate, post-check=0, pre-check=0
  Pragma: public
  Content-Encoding: pack200-gzip
  Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=flywrench4k.kz.pack.gz
  Content-Transfer-Encoding: binary
  Content-Length: 4079
  Connection: close
  Content-Type: application/x-java-pack200; name="flywrench4k.kz.pack.gz"

Length: 4079 (4,0K) [application/x-java-pack200]
Saving to: `applet.php@gid=448.2'

100%[======================================>] 4.079       --.-K/s   in 0s

2013-06-18 21:07:59 (125 MB/s) - `applet.php@gid=448.2' saved [4079/4079]


C:\Program Files (x86)\GnuWin32\bin>

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Offline Riven
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« Reply #19 - Posted 2013-06-18 23:14:53 »

Then check the actual data transfer with a tool like WireShark.

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Offline appel

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« Reply #20 - Posted 2013-06-18 23:59:41 »

From old server that worked:

  HTTP/1.1 200 OK
  Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2013 21:58:37 GMT
  Server: Apache/2.2.21 (Win64) PHP/5.3.10
  X-Powered-By: PHP/5.3.10
  Set-Cookie: PHPSESSID=qqct18g16c60l3hqqbbtrlb3m6; path=/
  Expires: 0
  Cache-Control: must-revalidate, post-check=0, pre-check=0
  Pragma: public
  Content-Encoding: pack200-gzip
  Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=flywrench4k.kz.pack.gz
  Content-Transfer-Encoding: binary
  Content-Length: 4079
  Keep-Alive: timeout=5, max=100
  Connection: Keep-Alive
  Content-Type: application/x-java-pack200; name="flywrench4k.kz.pack.gz"
Length: 4079 (4,0K) [application/x-java-pack200]
Saving to: `applet.php@gid=448.2'


From new server:

  HTTP/1.1 200 OK
  Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2013 22:00:33 GMT
  Server: Apache
  X-Powered-By: PHP/5.2.17
  Set-Cookie: PHPSESSID=0a164569ce9efb0e9818a1e721f523dd; path=/
  Expires: 0
  Cache-Control: must-revalidate, post-check=0, pre-check=0
  Pragma: public
  Content-Encoding: pack200-gzip
  Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=flywrench4k.kz.pack.gz
  Content-Transfer-Encoding: binary
  Content-Length: 4079
  Connection: Keep-Alive, close
  Keep-Alive: timeout=5, max=100
  Content-Type: application/x-java-pack200; name="flywrench4k.kz.pack.gz"
Length: 4079 (4,0K) [application/x-java-pack200]
Saving to: `applet.php@gid=448.4'


I compared the two outputs, and both are identical.

I'm going insane!!! Either there's something wrong with java applets or there's something wrong with java applets.

Btw, the game I'm trying to run is this:
http://www.java4k.com/index.php?action=games&method=view&gid=448
Let me know if it works at your end. If it does, that means I'll have to buy a new hard disk to wipe that stupid applet cache.

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Offline Riven
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« Reply #21 - Posted 2013-06-19 00:03:40 »

Now try wireshark to see what the java plugin actually receives.

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Offline Riven
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« Reply #22 - Posted 2013-06-19 00:05:08 »

http://www.java4k.com/index.php?action=games&method=view&gid=448
Let me know if it works at your end. If it does, that means I'll have to buy a new hard disk to wipe that stupid applet cache.
Can't help you there. Like any sane person I disabled the Java plugin Smiley

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Offline appel

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« Reply #23 - Posted 2013-06-19 00:13:11 »

Now try wireshark to see what the java plugin actually receives.

Yea, I should have done that initially. I found the problem, the java plugin is doing get on this:
GET /applet.php.pack.gz?gid=448

when it should be doing get on this:
GET /applet.php?gid=448

It is appending that ".pack.gz" to the url.

Here's the applet object code:
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<object code="F.class" archive="applet.php?gid=448" width="800" height="600" type="application/x-java-applet;version=1.5">
<param name="java_arguments" value="-Djnlp.packEnabled=true" />
<param name="cache_option" value="no">
</object>


So... another question why does this work differently between servers?

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Offline appel

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« Reply #24 - Posted 2013-06-19 00:29:44 »

<param name="java_arguments" value="-Djnlp.packEnabled=true" />

had to be set to:

<param name="java_arguments" value="-Djnlp.packEnabled=false" />

Makes sense?

ANYWAY... all fixed now... darn tough to figure this out. Applets are clearly not very portable, and the deployment procedure is an annoying pain.

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« Reply #25 - Posted 2013-06-19 00:48:53 »

Clientside Java has always been unreliable and radically different/bugged with every minor update..

Just keep in mind that now it works on your computer, you probably broke it for everybody else Smiley

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Offline appel

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« Reply #26 - Posted 2013-06-19 01:43:02 »

Clientside Java has always been unreliable and radically different/bugged with every minor update..

Just keep in mind that now it works on your computer, you probably broke it for everybody else Smiley

Oh god, I'm gonna shoot myself if that happened  Shocked

At least it works with the most recent JRE, which I have, so all good  Grin

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Offline ReBirth
« Reply #27 - Posted 2013-06-19 03:44:40 »

Can't help you there. Like any sane person I disabled the Java plugin Smiley
Looks like I am the only one who insane here.

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« Reply #28 - Posted 2013-06-19 21:55:16 »



Hmmm, seems like Oracle's stand on Applets has gone from bad to worse. It is slightly off-topic, but depending on how far back they've blocked applets this could single-handedly destroy Java4K. Every time I feel good about Oracle's advancements to the platform, something like this always pops up. (Not that it'll affect a lot of you who disabled it by default anyway Tongue ).

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« Reply #29 - Posted 2013-06-19 22:07:06 »

We need an alternate plugin, something like webstart, but with the requirement that it'd be reliable.

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