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Offline Grunnt

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« Reply #30 - Posted 2013-03-27 07:50:36 »

I find your concept of "grown men" questionable  Wink

There's no mention of 'fully' grown men.  Grin

Offline gouessej
« Reply #31 - Posted 2013-03-27 10:47:29 »

Anyone a biscuit? I haven't seen a group of grown men agreeing with eachother like this since 1997.
Maybe you should forget the biscuit as I disagree a bit with some comments here. A political problem requires a political solution. Developers wouldn't need to think about obfuscation, copyright and DRM if a suitable business model for the digital economy existed, if you get paid when you spend some time in creating "useful" (determined by votes) stuff without explicitly selling your games / applications, for example thanks to the collectivist cooperative global patronage.

Offline princec

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« Reply #32 - Posted 2013-03-27 11:50:51 »

Julien, you can't just tell the entire internet to use a different business model. Things just evolve and the best things win out.

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Offline Oskuro

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« Reply #33 - Posted 2013-03-27 12:44:57 »

...thanks to the collectivist cooperative global patronage.

And the problem with any collective endeavor is that most people are morons.

No, seriously. Unless you have very strict bars to entry (and even if), statistically a big portion, even a majority, of a given group is composed of people with little understanding of whatever is being discussed, often driven to participate by herd mentality alone.

And if you enforce very strict bars to entry, you end up losing the collective approach as the group of participants is reduced.

I do see the value in collective initiatives, but the prevalence of the aforementioned problem makes them hard to implement.

We see this quite often with things like Greenlight or Kickstarter, where hype and popularity have often had more weight in the decission making of the community than hard work and quality, resulting in rather unfair results all around, which would be contrary to the idea of being rewarded for the actual effort put into the product.

A true solution to these issues, if one exists, is probably a combination of politics, technology, and, above all, social awareness and responsibility.

That last one is the hard one, though.

Offline Roquen
« Reply #34 - Posted 2013-03-27 13:55:57 »

But my dear Cas and Julien, that's exactly the model that we have today expect we haven't gotten around to adding the bad parts.  Yeah I know that multinational agencies have been a huge success and it's a world wide proven fact that civil service is the most efficient and corruption free way to handle all known situations.  It's certainly without question that governmental agencies have the most reliable and secure servers. And I'm sure that we all agree that levying taxes is unquestionably the best and most equitable way to fund the system.  So where's the problem you cry??  Privacy.  We would have to insure that all computers had built-in unique identifiers and that all OSes supported remote secure invocation of executable to put a tiny dent in impact of "MyVoteBot v.666".  Of course we might have to nuke a couple of countries that start spewing out CPUs with programmable "unique IDs".  On second thought, let's just hold hands and sing "We are the world".
Offline princec

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« Reply #35 - Posted 2013-03-27 14:08:33 »

Er, is that in response to me?

Cas Smiley

Offline Roquen
« Reply #36 - Posted 2013-03-27 14:18:24 »

I'm attempting to be amusing.  So sort-of:  
Julien, you can't just tell the entire internet to use a different business model
and I'm saying it's the model we have, without the parts we don't need.
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