appel
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2013-02-28 01:05:46 » |
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Community Voting starts on March 1st, and will continue for 2 weeks, ending March 15th (inclusive). The form factor this year is slightly changed. As usual, voters will be given a pool of 50 points to hand out to their most favorite games, 0 to 5 points. New twitch is, voters will be able to write a short sentence/feedback about the game they are giving points to. This will be kept at minimum, twitter-length, but benefits both the game maker (getting feedback) and also the voter (giving feedback). Giving feedback is optional, so those lazy-horses out there, no need to worry about a dreadful form to fill out 
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bainit
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Reply #1 - Posted
2013-02-28 14:02:52 » |
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I like this idea
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Morre
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Reply #2 - Posted
2013-02-28 14:28:09 » |
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Sounds excellent! Will there also be judges? I can't recall what the original thread said... *goes to check*.
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Games published by our own members! Check 'em out!
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appel
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Reply #3 - Posted
2013-03-01 00:37:10 » |
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Yes, I will announce the judges tomorrow...
I'll open the community voting when I get home from work tomorrow... how late depends on how much beer I'll have... don't hold your breath :>
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Grunnt
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Reply #4 - Posted
2013-03-01 11:38:38 » |
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Great! Thanks a lot for doing this 
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bysse
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Reply #5 - Posted
2013-03-01 12:10:27 » |
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Nice touch with the feedback!
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appel
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Reply #6 - Posted
2013-03-01 19:25:29 » |
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Community voting has started! http://java4k.com/Once again, you need to have an account. I'll add an " Oh man I forgot my password" feature tomorrow in case you forget your account password from last year.
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ctomni231
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Reply #7 - Posted
2013-03-01 22:42:54 » |
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The Search bar is preventing me from selecting the Community Voting Tab lol. Can you look into it Appel... It is happening on all my browsers...
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Jimmt
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Reply #8 - Posted
2013-03-01 22:43:09 » |
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Zoom out.
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appel
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Reply #9 - Posted
2013-03-02 16:59:03 » |
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The Search bar is preventing me from selecting the Community Voting Tab lol. Can you look into it Appel... It is happening on all my browsers...
Yea, I can reproduce, need to fix it. But until then... I've added a link on the main page as well, so you should always be able to access the voting page from there as well.
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Games published by our own members! Check 'em out!
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Rooster_Miami
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Reply #10 - Posted
2013-03-07 19:16:41 » |
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Yes, I will announce the judges tomorrow...
I'll open the community voting when I get home from work tomorrow... how late depends on how much beer I'll have... don't hold your breath :>
Where are the judges?
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moogie
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Reply #11 - Posted
2013-03-07 21:06:02 » |
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voters will be able to write a short sentence/feedback about the game they are giving points to Any reason that we cant give feed back on any submission? or is my understanding not correct? I gave a few entries 0 score... but that can only be achieved by leaving the score field blank... so how do you determine between a 0 score and a non-score? I did leave feed back for all entries as i tested all entries.
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Java4k RIP 2014
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appel
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Reply #12 - Posted
2013-03-07 21:35:17 » |
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voters will be able to write a short sentence/feedback about the game they are giving points to Any reason that we cant give feed back on any submission? or is my understanding not correct? I gave a few entries 0 score... but that can only be achieved by leaving the score field blank... so how do you determine between a 0 score and a non-score? I did leave feed back for all entries as i tested all entries. Well, the idea was you give a game some points and optional feedback. If you give a game 0 points and feedback, that will still be saved, but have no weight in the results.
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moogie
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Reply #13 - Posted
2013-03-08 02:40:30 » |
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That is fine, i am sure the authors would appreciate any and all feed back... i know i did when I had participated in the past. I was a little bit worried that my multi-hour effort of playing each entry and giving feedback would have been wasted for those which did not get a points ( I ran out of points  )
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Java4k RIP 2014
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Morre
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Reply #14 - Posted
2013-03-08 12:16:41 » |
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I'm seeing a flaw in the voting system - the games are sorted alphabetically. With a fixed pool of points go distribute, I find it very likely that games starting with numbers or an A will get significantly better scores than games later in the alphabet. I'd suggest doing such a comparison after the contest to see if this is the case. It might even be possible to calculate a curve representing this "multiplier" and normalize the results - perhaps not to use as actual results, but as interesting experiment.
For next year (and probably even for the remainder of the current year's voting), I suggest making the list sorting randomized. The best way to do this would probably be to randomize it once for each user, meaning each logged-in user will see entries in the same order each time they look at the list.
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pjt33
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Reply #15 - Posted
2013-03-08 17:48:50 » |
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I'm seeing a flaw in the voting system - the games are sorted alphabetically.
I have generated a randomly sorted list, and I'm working through the games in that random order. (I did the same last year when I was a judge). But yes, we can't expect everyone to do that.
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dapy
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Reply #16 - Posted
2013-03-08 17:57:14 » |
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I'm seeing a flaw in the voting system - the games are sorted alphabetically.
Last year, I played all of the games, ranked them in order of descending awesomeness, then awarded points from my favourite downwards. I'll do the same this year. /makes a mental note to write a game about aardvarks next year
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ctomni231
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Reply #17 - Posted
2013-03-08 23:35:38 » |
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Yeah, I think it is more a moral issue than it is anything else if you just give the first 10 games 5 points and don't check the rest. I think the random thing is a good idea. I played all the games and did my points depending on what I considered great getting the points in general. I was disappointed that it was only 50 points, I think a lot more games deserved some points... but that is just me  .
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appel
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Reply #18 - Posted
2013-03-09 00:48:41 » |
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Yeah, I think it is more a moral issue than it is anything else if you just give the first 10 games 5 points and don't check the rest. I think the random thing is a good idea. I played all the games and did my points depending on what I considered great getting the points in general. I was disappointed that it was only 50 points, I think a lot more games deserved some points... but that is just me  . Well, the reason for "only" 50 points is a psychological one. You're more likely to spend 50 points than 500 points. There's a whole lot of reasoning behind the scarcity of points.
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Rooster_Miami
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Reply #20 - Posted
2013-03-15 13:49:53 » |
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HURRY.... UP.... NOT.... MUCH.... TIME....  Can you keep community voting open until the judges are finished? That will provide more time for community feedback.
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ReBirth
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Reply #21 - Posted
2013-03-15 15:04:53 » |
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And the judges will wait for community finished. INFINITY LOOP!
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teletubo
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Reply #22 - Posted
2013-03-15 16:15:31 » |
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And the judges will wait for community finished. INFINITY LOOP!
That's actually a deadlock. As most as I am curious to see the community voting results, I think the voting process would benefit from a few days more, since now the site seems way more stable than it was the past weeks.
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Alan_W
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Reply #23 - Posted
2013-03-15 17:20:24 » |
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Voted
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Time flies like a bird. Fruit flies like a banana.
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appel
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Reply #24 - Posted
2013-03-15 18:30:02 » |
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Ok, then, I was actually going to ask this, but community voting stays open until Wednesday. That way we get both results at the same time.
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ReBirth
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Reply #25 - Posted
2013-03-16 03:35:08 » |
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And the judges will wait for community finished. INFINITY LOOP!
That's actually a deadlock. Not really, while on wait judges will review again his sheet and community votes might be increased. Just no passively waiting.
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ra4king
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Reply #26 - Posted
2013-03-16 03:43:32 » |
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My next set of free time is all day Sunday, Monday, and Tuesday, and half of Wednesday. I'm going to cram my remaining 50 reviews in those 3.5 days 
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ReBirth
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Reply #27 - Posted
2013-03-16 03:46:17 » |
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Yeah Sunday and Monday will be the boost day.
@ra4king have you read my PM?
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Kronos
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Reply #28 - Posted
2013-03-16 12:19:58 » |
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Hey guys. Where are the results?
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appel
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Reply #29 - Posted
2013-03-16 14:17:53 » |
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Hey guys. Where are the results?
Community voting was extended until march 20th.
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