Titan Attacks by Puppy Games is C#?

[PaulCunningham]

Looks like a pretty cool process.

Just curious, did you ever consider using some of the existing solutions for Java to C# conversion ? like using IKVM and just implementing a LWJGL clone in .NET.

Also how are you handling platforms that don't have OpenGL, some sort of OGL->DX converter (like Angle)? or some other method?

Do you plan to release a general conversion tool so other can use it? (whether commercial or free).

Cheers - been a bunch of hard work but ultimately satisfying when you get the game running. I looked at IKVM way back in the day but found it wasn't going to work for some reason (probably the closed nature of consoles but I forget now). If you want XBox then it's got to be XNA Game Studio (or pain of XBLA) and if you have XNA you may as well go MonoGame for the other targets.

I've delegated the few OpenGL calls that Cas uses to Direct X - it's a custom solution and while it's pretty basic it works well enough. Not sure what the plans are to be honest. I doubt there would be any value in it for others unless you were using the entire Puppy tool chain. But there's no reason the various libs couldn't be bunged on Github or whatever.

[Orangy Tang]

Cheers - been a bunch of hard work but ultimately satisfying when you get the game running. I looked at IKVM way back in the day but found it wasn't going to work for some reason.

Back when I looked into it, IKVM required the full CLR runtime, whereas to get on XBox you were restricted to the Compact Runtime. So you can use IKVM to get something working with XNA, but it'll only work on desktop, not XBox (which is kinda the point).

[PaulCunningham]

...and here's a little YouTube of it in action...

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/d7eGZmGPw84?version=3&amp;hl=en_US&amp;start=" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/v/d7eGZmGPw84?version=3&amp;hl=en_US&amp;start=</a>

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[princec]

What's that running on?

Cas

[gouessej]

That link is nearly 4 years old - go start a new thread if you want to argue the merits of each language / IDE / Framework, eh?

I won't start another thread and most things explained in this article are still true now. I haven't insulted you, I haven't posted anything defamatory, I'm allowed to express my opinion, I'm not forced to agree with you to post here, this is a forum, not a billboard for advertising. If you just want to make some self-promotion without having anyone to contradict you, you're probably in the wrong place. When I talk about my own projects, I accept that people can disagree with me as soon as they express their opinions in a smart way (ie. without trolls, insults, ...). You started by saying that C# is "pretty much Java by another name really" but now that I express a different opinion, you expect from me to keep quiet and go somewhere else to talk about that. I gave some arguments, I think my remarks are constructive. Maybe I'm a bit harsh, I speak about some limitations of your approach but your work is still valuable (and interesting) and I find Cas' games great. Welcome in [size=20pt]java[/size]-gaming.org.

[PaulCunningham]

That's running on Windows at the moment - I'm still working through some resource bugs and graphical errors. As soon as I'm happy with it on Windows I'll compile an XBox version and see what's to be fixed up there. Resources are taking too long to load at present so I'll see what my options are for pre creating them.

[PaulCunningham]

...and I've finally fixed the resource loader 



Input next - then I should be able to play it!

[Nate]

A touch screen game can have no immersion? Ha!

[Sammyster]

Very nice  


Looks like alot of work to get something running on a platform it wasn't designed for!

[Roquen]

... Microsoft .NET itself has never been faster than Java, that's why Quake .NET is 15% slower than the original version whereas Jake 2 is faster.

You can't compare apple and oranges.  You can't draw any valid conclusions from such a "test".  If Microsoft Word is faster then OpenOffice, it means nothing other than Word is faster than OpenOffice.  Same thing for Quake.NET vs Jake 2.

Games published by our own members! Check 'em out!

[gouessej]

... Microsoft .NET itself has never been faster than Java, that's why Quake .NET is 15% slower than the original version whereas Jake 2 is faster.

You can't compare apple and oranges.  You can't draw any valid conclusions from such a "test".  If Microsoft Word is faster then OpenOffice, it means nothing other than Word is faster than OpenOffice.  Same thing for Quake.NET vs Jake 2.

Quake .NET and Jake 2 are two ports of Quake 2, the former uses .NET, the latter uses Java. Both are very close to the original GPL source code, that's why I think that I don't compare apples and oranges.

[Roquen]

Look at the source of both and get back to me.

[Riven]

I'm a bit biased here, but I'd really appreciate it if this specific thread stayed ontopic-ish

[PaulCunningham]

Made some good progress on the Titan Attacks conversion. Here's the latest video.

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/kAvAe-NECnE?version=3&amp;hl=en_US&amp;start=" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/v/kAvAe-NECnE?version=3&amp;hl=en_US&amp;start=</a>

This is running on Windows at the moment - I've a couple of systems left to implement then I can begin the XBox 'port' (mainly fixing garbage issues at a guess)