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2012-07-30 00:55:50 » |
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I think its ugly =< Not really ugly, but too bright and stuff. Graphically it just doesnt turn me on. Paired with having to adapt to a new design altogether...
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Cero
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Reply #1 - Posted
2012-07-30 01:00:14 » |
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Also feels sluggish and unresponsive on a weak laptop here.
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h3ckboy
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Reply #2 - Posted
2012-07-30 01:03:02 » |
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I just switched over, and I don't find anything wrong with it. I am on a different computer so I cannot speak on performance, when I get back to my main dev computer I'll have a more educated opinion  . but to each his own.
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davidllanos22
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Reply #3 - Posted
2012-07-30 01:12:29 » |
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I'm quite happy with it D: You can change the design going to window>preferences>general>appareance and select classic. Then restart the workspace! The performance is still the same for me :/
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theagentd
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Reply #4 - Posted
2012-07-30 01:16:19 » |
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I have Juno! I had no idea there were different versions of Eclipse! I never noticed...
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Myomyomyo.
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Nate
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Reply #5 - Posted
2012-07-30 03:42:38 » |
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It is definitely more sluggish (eg, switching windows) than previous versions, and my computer is very powerful. I'm using it anyway. The new theme doesn't bother me too much, but I'd gladly give it up for better performance.
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ra4king
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Reply #6 - Posted
2012-07-30 03:49:46 » |
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It actually felt a bit faster for me. I really like the new UI though. But why would you want to be sexually attracted to an IDE?! 
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ReBirth
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Reply #7 - Posted
2012-07-30 04:10:15 » |
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It's harder to change IDE than browser. Guess I'll stick to Indigo RC longer.
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Phased
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Reply #8 - Posted
2012-07-30 08:12:11 » |
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I like the new update, I don't find much of a change other then it looks a bit nicer, looks like its been developed fairly recent compared to a XP style
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matheus23
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Reply #9 - Posted
2012-07-30 08:47:47 » |
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I like the update too, but It seems to me as closing the Editors takes much more time for me. If having opened about 20 files, and right-clicking on the bar, then going on "Close All" takes more then about 10 seconds...
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Phased
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Reply #10 - Posted
2012-07-30 08:49:32 » |
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I find opening it up is much faster.
PS: I just exited fullscreen of a video and switched back to jgo, soon as I changed a second later got the notification of a new post! WIN!
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princec
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Reply #11 - Posted
2012-07-30 10:28:00 » |
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Hideous. First Eclipse release I've not rushed to upgrade into. I'm sticking with 3.7. I wonder what possessed them to change stuff? Surely they, as developers, know that we, as developers, don't like things changing like that? Cas 
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Orangy Tang
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Reply #12 - Posted
2012-07-30 10:45:53 » |
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I see they've got support for a @NotNull attribute now - I'm almost thinking of upgrading for that alone.
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princec
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Reply #13 - Posted
2012-07-30 11:10:39 » |
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That was what I jumped on initially, but the new UI made me shriek in horror and I recoiled. Cas 
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kappa
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Reply #14 - Posted
2012-07-30 11:49:44 » |
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New UI definitely feels more sluggish than the old one, not sure how they managed that considering the old UI already felt bloated and slow. Default theme is horrid too but at least there is a way to switch to the classic theme.
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gimbal
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Reply #15 - Posted
2012-07-30 14:15:49 » |
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starts a lot slower, uses more resources, is butt-ugly... I'm not a happy camper. Its always the same though, Eclipse releases are alternating good and bad. 3.4 was terrible, 3.5 was good, 3.6 (especially SR2) had some major plugin breakers, 3.7 is very good (although I've managed to completely lock it up by closing the workspace on an SQL file...) and now 4 is worse again :/
Classic look and turning off animations makes it manageable for me though. The color scheme is still not easy on the eyes, but I'll live with it.
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ReBirth
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Reply #16 - Posted
2012-07-30 14:58:24 » |
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You can still have option to use old version 
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BoBear2681
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Reply #17 - Posted
2012-07-30 15:00:08 » |
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Some people used to say they didn't like Swing applications like NetBeans because they didn't look "native." Will they now say the same thing about Juno? I find it slightly amusing that Swing has been skinnable (albeit not by CSS, which is nice) for years and years, but most people didn't like or want that feature. 10+ years later, the Eclipse Foundation decides it's a good idea. I suppose it just looks like a poorly done Swing LookAndFeel. In a couple of iterations I'm sure they'll improve it.
But enough ranting. I haven't tried it yet, but it appears that there's a lot more wasted screen real estate in Juno - padding, margins, etc. are all slightly larger than they need to be. The dockable window icons floating in whiteness makes things look a little unfinished. Perhaps it's just a "different is scary" mindset though.
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nsigma
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Reply #18 - Posted
2012-07-30 15:06:04 » |
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I feel like I should tell you all to switch to NetBeans, if only to piss @ra4king off for derailing every NB thread! 
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theagentd
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Reply #19 - Posted
2012-07-30 16:13:34 » |
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I feel like I should tell you all to switch to NetBeans, if only to piss @ra4king off for derailing every NB thread!  The only reason I switched from Netbeans was that it had a horrible memory leak that made it use over 2GB of RAM after restarting my program 10 times or so.
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Myomyomyo.
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teletubo
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Reply #20 - Posted
2012-07-30 17:23:19 » |
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one thing that bothers me deeply in Juno is that Alt+left/right arrows don't work as before. The navigation history is kind of screwed up, I don't know exactly what happened. But since I already spent too much time installing plugins, ADT, etc, I'll stick to it.
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Sickan
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Reply #21 - Posted
2012-07-30 19:52:24 » |
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So... I'm the only one here who likes Eclipse Juno?
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I'm just here to learn.
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Gudradain
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Reply #22 - Posted
2012-07-30 19:56:04 » |
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The UI has changed... I don't see a reason to love it or hate it yet, so I don't really care.
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ra4king
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Reply #23 - Posted
2012-07-30 20:01:20 » |
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I feel like I should tell you all to switch to NetBeans, if only to piss @ra4king off for derailing every NB thread!   So... I'm the only one here who likes Eclipse Juno?
I like it too, don't worry. Let the oldies complain, us youngsters are the future anyway 
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princec
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Reply #24 - Posted
2012-07-31 00:07:36 » |
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Wait! There's a bug in the theme settings. Select Windows 7 Classic (or just Classic), and then restart Eclipse. Badoomf! It all looks proper again. Thank goodness for that. I feel another upgrade coming on. Cas 
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Nate
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Reply #25 - Posted
2012-07-31 00:11:58 » |
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<rant rant rant> I haven't tried it yet

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princec
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Reply #26 - Posted
2012-07-31 00:16:07 » |
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...though the whole UI does feel mysteriously more sluggish and I can't double-click to maximise the console view window in my other monitor. Grr. Cas 
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Danny02
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Reply #27 - Posted
2012-07-31 01:17:33 » |
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will take a deeper look what cool new features eclipse now has. Last time is a while back^^ First thing I noticed was that eclipse startup is still slow  , compared with netbeans 4sec vs 44sec
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ReBirth
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Reply #28 - Posted
2012-07-31 03:44:45 » |
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4sec?! are you sure? Eclipse seems faster to me. Well, jEdit the fastest less than 2sec 
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Danny02
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Reply #29 - Posted
2012-07-31 09:54:58 » |
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4sec?! are you sure?
are you using 7.2, got a huge startup boost
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