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Offline Jimmt
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« Posted 2012-05-13 20:56:18 »

some idiot at school called java game programming "easy"  Cranky
Offline Ciaran54

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« Reply #1 - Posted 2012-05-13 21:10:17 »

Didn't you hear? All of the cool kids are coding FPSs in Assembler, because its so much faster. Its because java can only makes games out of blocks or simple 2D games, its really slow, and nobody really uses it anyway, apart from for putting scripts in HTML. I mean, the java game engine has really bad graphics anyway.

Anyway, what I'm trying to say is, yes, its really really easy, most people are born with the ability.
Offline princec

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« Reply #2 - Posted 2012-05-13 22:06:40 »

I think it's easier than doing it in C++ if that helps Smiley

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Offline jonjava
« Reply #3 - Posted 2012-05-13 22:11:29 »

I think it's easier than doing it in C++ if that helps Smiley

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Offline Jimmt
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« Reply #4 - Posted 2012-05-13 22:54:07 »

We're talking about a MIDDLE school here.
Offline princec

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« Reply #5 - Posted 2012-05-13 23:02:11 »

Well, it doesn't really matter what age you are, it's still easier than C++ Wink

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Offline SkyAphid
« Reply #6 - Posted 2012-05-13 23:16:37 »

Well, is even a programmer? If he can't program, just call him an idiot and go on about your life. Most kids these days are illiterate rap-listening whipper snappers anyway, so he's probably trolling you.

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Offline Rorkien
« Reply #7 - Posted 2012-05-13 23:19:40 »



He must be some kind of guy who downloaded UDK, messed up with the terrain, assets and kismet and considers himself a PRO GAME MAKER
Nothing surprising, ignore, move on.
Offline ReBirth
« Reply #8 - Posted 2012-05-13 23:26:23 »

He must be some kind of guy who downloaded UDK, messed up with the terrain, assets and kismet and considers himself a PRO GAME MAKER
Nothing surprising, ignore, move on.
Love the image, indeed troll Grin
UDK? middle school? nay. Game maker/RPG maker free edition.

Offline deepthought
« Reply #9 - Posted 2012-05-14 01:15:14 »

make him join CS uil in highschool. see if he even gets a positive score.

but seriously. talk to him. if he actually knows anything, he might make a good friend. we all know that people we can actually talk to about programming are pretty hard to find. even in most of your high school programming classes you find a bunch of people who can't program their way out of a paper bag with holes in it.

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Offline theagentd
« Reply #10 - Posted 2012-05-14 06:02:56 »

@Rorkien

Lol, awesome! Saved in case of flame war.

Does anyone here know OpenGL and C++ or something? Would be nice to have a benchmark of exactly how much slower Java is to C++ with OpenGL, especially scaling with the number of draw calls.

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« Reply #11 - Posted 2012-05-14 06:37:03 »

some idiot at school called java game programming "easy"  Cranky

It dawned on me that there is absolutely no point in convincing people that I don't care about. Would you truely feel better if that 'idiot at school' would change his mind? If so, why? There is an infinite supply of fools, and most important to realize is that you can't fight stupidity.

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Offline gouessej
« Reply #12 - Posted 2012-05-14 07:25:06 »

Hi

some idiot at school called java game programming "easy"  Cranky
Is it worth trying to convince them that game programming in general requires some time? Make it simple, ask them how many wonderful Java games they created to say that? Java drives game programming easier than with other lower level languages but creating a first person shooter still requires months or even years of work.

Offline princec

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« Reply #13 - Posted 2012-05-14 07:42:15 »

The saying goes, never argue with an idiot, because they will drag you down to their level, and then beat you on experience.

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Offline krasse
« Reply #14 - Posted 2012-05-14 08:01:28 »

http://xkcd.com/386/

Offline philfrei
« Reply #15 - Posted 2012-05-14 08:10:26 »


Bull's-eye!

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Offline theagentd
« Reply #16 - Posted 2012-05-14 09:10:57 »

Hi

some idiot at school called java game programming "easy"  Cranky
Is it worth trying to convince them that game programming in general requires some time? Make it simple, ask them how many wonderful Java games they created to say that? Java drives game programming easier than with other lower level languages but creating a first person shooter still requires months or even years of work.
Writing a book is much easier on a computer since you have copy-paste and can edit things much more easier than on paper, spelling correction, e.t.c. but you still have to write the damn book. If you can't write a coherent sentence on paper...

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Offline gouessej
« Reply #17 - Posted 2012-05-14 09:31:23 »

Hi

some idiot at school called java game programming "easy"  Cranky
Is it worth trying to convince them that game programming in general requires some time? Make it simple, ask them how many wonderful Java games they created to say that? Java drives game programming easier than with other lower level languages but creating a first person shooter still requires months or even years of work.
Writing a book is much easier on a computer since you have copy-paste and can edit things much more easier than on paper, spelling correction, e.t.c. but you still have to write the damn book. If you can't write a coherent sentence on paper...
That's what I meant but your example is better and easier to understand.

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« Reply #18 - Posted 2012-05-14 10:11:19 »

Spelling correction thingy still didn't spot you writing "etc." wrongly though did it  Pointing

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Offline ReBirth
« Reply #19 - Posted 2012-05-14 10:58:57 »

@Rorkien

Lol, awesome! Saved in case of flame war.

Does anyone here know OpenGL and C++ or something? Would be nice to have a benchmark of exactly how much slower Java is to C++ with OpenGL, especially scaling with the number of draw calls.
Let's search an already work example for C++ and try port it to java. Now you get two working codes Pointing

Offline theagentd
« Reply #20 - Posted 2012-05-14 11:35:51 »

Spelling correction thingy still didn't spot you writing "etc." wrongly though did it  Pointing

Cas Smiley
It doesn't give me an error for it, and since it also doesn't like shaders, OpenGL, etc. either, and I'm not a native speaker so I don't know exactly how to "spell" abbreviations. That's how I would write it in Swedish. xd

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Offline Riven
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« Reply #21 - Posted 2012-05-14 11:38:38 »

Spelling correction thingy still didn't spot you writing "etc." wrongly though did it  Pointing

Cas Smiley
It doesn't give me an error for it, and since it also doesn't like shaders, OpenGL, etc. either, and I'm not a native speaker so I don't know exactly how to "spell" abbreviations. That's how I would write it in Swedish. xd
'etc' is the abbreviation of 'etcetera', which is not an English word (latin), so your native language is not relevant Smiley

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Offline jonjava
« Reply #22 - Posted 2012-05-14 17:23:37 »

At least he didn't spell it "ect".

Offline theagentd
« Reply #23 - Posted 2012-05-14 18:59:24 »

Spelling correction thingy still didn't spot you writing "etc." wrongly though did it  Pointing

Cas Smiley
It doesn't give me an error for it, and since it also doesn't like shaders, OpenGL, etc. either, and I'm not a native speaker so I don't know exactly how to "spell" abbreviations. That's how I would write it in Swedish. xd
'etc' is the abbreviation of 'etcetera', which is not an English word (latin), so your native language is not relevant Smiley
Sigh. I wasn't claiming that etcetera was a Swedish word. -___-'

EDIT: And I'm just saying that abbreviations are written differently in different languages. We usually put dots between each new word.

EDIT2: Screw this. From now on I'll use AOSSBRWNLMWETC, which stands for "and other stuff since Riven will not let me write etcetera". Happy?

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« Reply #24 - Posted 2012-05-14 19:03:43 »

Spelling correction thingy still didn't spot you writing "etc." wrongly though did it  Pointing

Cas Smiley
It doesn't give me an error for it, and since it also doesn't like shaders, OpenGL, etc. either, and I'm not a native speaker so I don't know exactly how to "spell" abbreviations. That's how I would write it in Swedish. xd
'etc' is the abbreviation of 'etcetera', which is not an English word (latin), so your native language is not relevant Smiley
Sigh. I wasn't claiming that etcetera was a Swedish word. -___-'

EDIT: And I'm just saying that abbreviations are written differently in different languages. We usually put dots between each new word.

Maybe, but its derived from latin. I'm sure. Very sure.

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Offline theagentd
« Reply #25 - Posted 2012-05-14 19:07:21 »

Spelling correction thingy still didn't spot you writing "etc." wrongly though did it  Pointing

Cas Smiley
It doesn't give me an error for it, and since it also doesn't like shaders, OpenGL, etc. either, and I'm not a native speaker so I don't know exactly how to "spell" abbreviations. That's how I would write it in Swedish. xd
'etc' is the abbreviation of 'etcetera', which is not an English word (latin), so your native language is not relevant Smiley
Sigh. I wasn't claiming that etcetera was a Swedish word. -___-'

EDIT: And I'm just saying that abbreviations are written differently in different languages. We usually put dots between each new word.

Maybe, but its derived from latin. I'm sure. Very sure.
I'm pretty sure the language of the church does not have abbreviations. Isn't there some rule against abbreviations in that hand book they have? Stop bashing me or the consequences will never be the same (saw that live B.T.W. (Oh, wait, I mean BTWWINDFLIAPSIIASWIPNR which stands for "by the way which is not derived from latin. I am pretty sure it is a Swedish word. I promise. No, really.")).

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« Reply #26 - Posted 2012-05-14 19:27:43 »

EDIT: And I'm just saying that abbreviations are written differently in different languages. We usually put dots between each new word.


Well, thats the point - there IS ONLY ONE word...  Tongue

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Offline jonjava
« Reply #27 - Posted 2012-05-14 19:28:57 »

The language of the church. I'm pretty sure they speak exclusively in abbreviations.

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Offline deepthought
« Reply #28 - Posted 2012-05-14 19:43:25 »

you will always be faced with wave after wave of morons. just try to ignore them.

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« Reply #29 - Posted 2012-05-14 19:44:00 »

Spelling correction thingy still didn't spot you writing "etc." wrongly though did it  Pointing

Cas Smiley
It doesn't give me an error for it, and since it also doesn't like shaders, OpenGL, etc. either, and I'm not a native speaker so I don't know exactly how to "spell" abbreviations. That's how I would write it in Swedish. xd
'etc' is the abbreviation of 'etcetera', which is not an English word (latin), so your native language is not relevant Smiley
Sigh. I wasn't claiming that etcetera was a Swedish word. -___-'
I never claimed you claimed that.

(Before you start sighing contemptuously, you might want to double-check what was said)

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