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Offline theagentd
« Reply #30 - Posted 2012-03-30 13:38:14 »

I get like 10 "Do you want to install and reboot now?" reminders per day. It's ANNOYING as hell.  Angry If I said yes every time I'd spend half my computer time just rebooting.

Windows updates...
Adobe Acrobat Reader updates...
Java updates...
Flash updates...
Firefox updates...
IntelliJ updates...
etc.
1. Buy SSD.
2. Huh
3. Profit!

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« Reply #31 - Posted 2012-03-30 13:40:53 »

Not so simple.

After you bought an SSD, you're going to throw random items at your PC at work.

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Offline ReBirth
« Reply #32 - Posted 2012-03-30 13:48:13 »

A SSD has limit of writing for each cell. It has shorter time of life, and all updates installation will speed it up.

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« Reply #33 - Posted 2012-03-30 14:33:48 »

A SSD has limit of writing for each cell. It has shorter time of life, and all updates installation will speed it up.
The write-problem is not a problem that you can take seriously. You have between 10,000 and 100,000 writes per sector. Please do the math here. It's unlikely that you'd write that often in a single sector. This problem is further negated by the controller that will scatter the writes to the same logical sector to different physical sectors, each time data is written. Even if you're running a huge database application on it, 24/7 in a busy server, it's not a problem. Maybe a dozen sectors will go 'bad' and the controller will avoid them, even further marginalizing the problem.

If SSDs fail (and yes, they do) it's more likely to be caused by a crappy controller than due to bad sectors.

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Offline ReBirth
« Reply #34 - Posted 2012-03-30 14:39:32 »

Assuming that you dont fill your SSD up to 99%. Consider its high value per gigabyte, it's hard to leave huge free space.

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« Reply #35 - Posted 2012-03-30 14:42:40 »

That's why you add a HDD for additional data storage. If you have a 64GB SSD, it makes no sense to fill it 99% with movies: it's too small for normal use. As a result, people won't use it for that, problem solved - no 'sector write problem' either.

Anyway, back to bashing Flash.

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Offline Cero
« Reply #36 - Posted 2012-03-30 14:56:03 »

I learned ActionScript 3 these last 2 months and did stuff, because i had to more or less

well, of course, what IS good is that, when Flash is installed "it just works" everywhere and the same

I guess that all "PRO" I can give
its good to have an API that comes with it, that does so much, just like Java

but yeah I felt like the last person ever to learn Flash shortly before it dies and HTML5 takes over

Offline Roquen
« Reply #37 - Posted 2012-03-30 14:58:10 »

WRT: Reboot - DIE MCAFEE DIE!  Why on earth can I install a new video driver (aka kernel level device) without rebooting, but my stupid virus scan is asking me to reboot all the time.  I don't get it.
Offline ReBirth
« Reply #38 - Posted 2012-03-30 15:06:18 »

I had been long time hear someone use McAfee. About flash's update, it can be disableb by blocking its startup entry.

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« Reply #39 - Posted 2012-03-30 16:25:56 »

The thing is, I want to update Flash, because it's almost always updated for security reasons.  I just want to be able to tell the damn thing to update silently like other well-behaved software, but their lawyers got into their heads that the user has to accept their EULA every single time.  Actually I think their advertising department did, they figured it'd make sure to remind people every day "HEY YOU'RE RUNNING ADOBE FLASH AND WE'RE LOOKING OUT FOR YOU AREN'T WE SO GREAT".  Now it's finally dawned on them that people are only equating Flash with obtrusive annoying updates as a result.

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« Reply #40 - Posted 2012-03-30 16:27:36 »

WRT: Reboot - DIE MCAFEE DIE!  Why on earth can I install a new video driver (aka kernel level device) without rebooting, but my stupid virus scan is asking me to reboot all the time.  I don't get it.

Norton hardly ever makes me reboot.  When it does, it's because it replaced one of the DLL's that it goes to great lengths to lock into memory to prevent it from being unloadable.

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« Reply #41 - Posted 2012-03-30 16:36:23 »

Actually I think their advertising department did, they figured it'd make sure to remind people every day "HEY YOU'RE RUNNING ADOBE FLASH AND WE'RE LOOKING OUT FOR YOU AREN'T WE SO GREAT".  Now it's finally dawned on them that people are only equating Flash with obtrusive annoying updates as a result.
Java suffers from this even more. A system tray icon is displayed every single time an applet is run! to make matters worse a new system tray icon is created for every applet that is run. Not forgetting the massive Java logo that appears by default on every applet making sure that the user knows that they are running a Java applet.

You even get a balloon bubble every time an applet is run after an update saying "hey look you are using java go to java.com", really don't get that, you already have it installed, there is hardly anything on that site other than instructions on how to install it again.
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« Reply #42 - Posted 2012-04-02 15:04:23 »


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« Reply #43 - Posted 2012-04-02 23:39:45 »

So appel was so speechless...

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« Reply #44 - Posted 2012-04-03 01:13:35 »

Click "quote" on his post, and copy/paste the link in his post. It seems SMF doesn't like it for some reason :S

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« Reply #45 - Posted 2012-04-03 01:36:33 »

I've found youtube seems to work better for me without flash and just HTML5.

It'll be a good day when the world finally, completely moves away from flash.

Offline ReBirth
« Reply #46 - Posted 2012-04-03 01:41:18 »

Click "quote" on his post, and copy/paste the link in his post. It seems SMF doesn't like it for some reason :S
And I went through all of that to see a meme Tongue

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« Reply #47 - Posted 2012-04-03 02:11:06 »

I've found youtube seems to work better for me without flash and just HTML5.

It'll be a good day when the world finally, completely moves away from flash.
I've found HTML 5 video on youtube to be very buggy. Reverted back to flash until they fix the problems.

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