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  Does really game development on Java suck? Why are we still here?  (Read 48896 times)
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Offline ra4king

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« Reply #240 - Posted 2012-05-30 01:56:43 »

whats the current state of jigsaw anyway ?
They have beta downloads of JDK 8 already, so it's basically done.

Offline Cero
« Reply #241 - Posted 2012-05-30 05:02:31 »

whats the current state of jigsaw anyway ?
They have beta downloads of JDK 8 already, so it's basically done.

Yeah I have seen it, has anyone tried it ?

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« Reply #242 - Posted 2012-05-30 14:57:34 »

Now we, desktop devs, are going to have compiling (target) issue like what android devs have.

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« Reply #243 - Posted 2012-05-30 15:04:46 »

You always did have this problem. Praise be to the embedded VM. *poof!* the problem has gone away on Windows (and Linux, if you want). Mac remains a complexity.

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« Reply #244 - Posted 2012-05-30 15:07:04 »

Yeah... fortunately there's simple trick for this. Compile everything to 6 (and android 2.2).

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« Reply #245 - Posted 2012-05-30 16:12:32 »

Official site works for me, developer preview builds of jigsaw can be downloaded from here.
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« Reply #246 - Posted 2012-05-30 16:58:06 »

You always did have this problem. Praise be to the embedded VM. *poof!* the problem has gone away on Windows (and Linux, if you want). Mac remains a complexity.

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Whats the problem on Mac ? Can't bundle a private vm ? Why ?

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« Reply #247 - Posted 2012-05-30 19:49:36 »

Whats the problem on Mac ? Can't bundle a private vm ? Why ?

Because Apple did not allow you to embed their Java implementation in your application. However, there is nothing preventing you from embedding OpenJDK in a few months, as soon as the following issue is implemented:
http://java.net/jira/browse/MACOSX_PORT-105
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« Reply #248 - Posted 2012-05-30 20:19:50 »

There is also the small issue that LWJGL (and probably - not sure - JOGL) don't work with OpenJDK 7 on the Mac.

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« Reply #249 - Posted 2012-06-01 23:59:03 »

For anybody wondering why JGO as a community produces so few games: look at the libgdx forums, they are spitting out new games on a regular basis. Apperantly developers really appreciate not having to worry about technical details. We need a few engines to do the heavy lifting, just like in the C/C++ gamedev scene.

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« Reply #250 - Posted 2012-06-02 00:10:58 »

We're also a smaller community. I would argue Slick is a reasonably good library on its own.

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« Reply #251 - Posted 2012-06-02 00:12:59 »

To be fair though: On the desktop the heavy lifting (window managment, GL context setup, etc.) is done by Lwjgl for libgdx. The only "heavy lifting" we do is compile a few bits of native code for all three desktop platforms. For most people the desktop backends are just there for rapid development, only people taking part in Ludum Dare or doing WebGL stuff use those backends for deployment.

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« Reply #252 - Posted 2012-06-06 23:46:49 »

Hehe I'm not as passionate about it but I agree with longino Grin

I agree with you and longino. I did some C# programming. Vusual Studio SUCKKKKKKKKKKKKKS. I HATEEEE IT. I WANT TO KILL. I feel like a claustrophobic idiot in a cave.
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« Reply #253 - Posted 2012-06-13 18:41:15 »

Hehe I'm not as passionate about it but I agree with longino Grin

I agree with you and longino. I did some C# programming. Vusual Studio SUCKKKKKKKKKKKKKS. I HATEEEE IT. I WANT TO KILL. I feel like a claustrophobic idiot in a cave.
It's the bastard child of Eclipse's ugly brother (NetBeans is Eclipse's cousin in this (is this a metaphor?)).
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« Reply #254 - Posted 2012-06-13 21:41:13 »

Netbeans is Eclipse's ugly brother! Grin

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« Reply #255 - Posted 2012-06-14 15:54:35 »

Hehe I'm not as passionate about it but I agree with longino Grin

I agree with you and longino. I did some C# programming. Vusual Studio SUCKKKKKKKKKKKKKS. I HATEEEE IT. I WANT TO KILL. I feel like a claustrophobic idiot in a cave.
It's the bastard child of Eclipse's ugly brother (NetBeans is Eclipse's cousin in this (is this a metaphor?)).

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« Reply #256 - Posted 2012-06-14 17:01:24 »

VisualAge for Java perhaps?  That's more like its half-brother and uncle at the same time if you get my drift.
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« Reply #257 - Posted 2012-06-14 17:45:18 »

Unless I'm on drugs, eclipse came from VisualAge.
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« Reply #258 - Posted 2012-06-14 22:18:50 »

It did, and VisualAge was what got me in to Java in the first place, and why I started using Eclipse.

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