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2012-03-01 01:13:06 » |
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Alrighty then, no more submissions.
Will open community voting tomorrow, too late now going to bed.
Judges are already hard at work reviewing the games.
All results due in 2 weeks.
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Archibald
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Reply #1 - Posted
2012-03-01 11:57:09 » |
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Groboclown
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Reply #2 - Posted
2012-03-01 17:30:52 » |
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Wow. 51 entries this year. I'm really impressed at the level of skill that went into all these games. Good job everyone!
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Games published by our own members! Check 'em out!
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ReBirth
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Reply #3 - Posted
2012-03-02 05:07:47 » |
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This year theme: "Conspiracy of Area 51".
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Reply #4 - Posted
2012-03-02 10:02:19 » |
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Are we expected to vote 0 or 5 for our own games?  |
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Archibald
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Reply #5 - Posted
2012-03-02 12:44:05 » |
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I think we are not allowed to vote on our own games?
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appel
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Reply #6 - Posted
2012-03-02 14:27:52 » |
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I think we are not allowed to vote on our own games?
Does not matter. |
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Groboclown
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Reply #7 - Posted
2012-03-02 15:47:36 » |
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Arg. Always, so little points to give out for so many great games.
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appel
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Reply #8 - Posted
2012-03-02 17:12:34 » |
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Arg. Always, so little points to give out for so many great games.
40 points this year, 30 points last year. I increased the # of points this year because there are slightly more games. The technique is debatable, but the fact is it delivers relatively "accurate" results. Compared to last two years we've done community voting the results were almost on par with the judging panel. Community voting should be as effortless for people as possible, as long as the end results are not skewed. The more points the more effort is required from the voter, which has the effect not as many might participate because it takes more time. |
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Damocles
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Reply #9 - Posted
2012-03-02 18:52:44 » |
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I like the general system of distributing several points.
Makes much better quality results than a single-pick option.
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Games published by our own members! Check 'em out!
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Reply #10 - Posted
2012-03-02 20:31:19 » |
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Limited points also increases the value of each point and allows for increased reflection on our voting decisions.
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Groboclown
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Reply #11 - Posted
2012-03-02 21:07:06 » |
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I agree with all the reasons for the limited points. Part of me wants to reward all these great games, rather than struggle to understand which ones stand out to me.
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Damocles
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Reply #12 - Posted
2012-03-02 21:26:39 » |
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its 204 kilobytes of games, lots to look though.
Fortunately I have a half empty Amiga floppy disk to save them all.
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dapy
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Reply #13 - Posted
2012-03-02 21:52:03 » |
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204 kilobytes of games
That's enough to fill 4 ZX Spectrums!  I'm reviewing them as I type this... |
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Damocles
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Reply #14 - Posted
2012-03-03 00:42:08 » |
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wait did the Sinclair have 64kB Memory? Dont remember, back then I was too young to know those specs, but playing Jetpack and made some simple Basic games.
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Archibald
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Reply #15 - Posted
2012-03-03 00:52:01 » |
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wait did the Sinclair have 64kB Memory? Dont remember, back then I was too young to know those specs, but playing Jetpack and made some simple Basic games.
16KB ROM+48KB RAM, so technicaly 48KB of memory you could use (minus GFX buffer and such). Of course assuming ZX-Spectrum 48, there were inferior models that had less  |
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Reply #16 - Posted
2012-03-03 12:54:13 » |
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its 204 kilobytes of games, lots to look though.
Fortunately I have a half empty Amiga floppy disk to save them all.
Indeed that's impressive. All games since the inception of Java4k would fit on a 3-1/2 inch floppy disk  |
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zeroone
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Reply #17 - Posted
2012-03-03 19:24:42 » |
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Indeed that's impressive. All games since the inception of Java4k would fit on a 3-1/2 inch floppy disk Only 360 4K games will fit on a 3½-inch disk. |
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ReBirth
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Reply #18 - Posted
2012-03-04 04:56:57 » |
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Wait until it comes into a bundle of DVD. Wonder how many time we need to play'em all.
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zeroone
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Reply #19 - Posted
2012-03-04 06:25:53 » |
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Wait until it comes into a bundle of DVD. Wonder how many time we need to play'em all.
You can fit 2,086,912 4K games onto a DVD+R DL. At the rate we are creating them, we'll exceed that capacity in the year 48388. |
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dapy
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Reply #20 - Posted
2012-03-04 12:04:29 » |
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You can fit 2,086,912 4K games onto a DVD+R DL. At the rate we are creating them, we'll exceed that capacity in the year 48388.
If everybody were as prolific as you were last year, we would exceed that capacity in a couple of years  |
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pelle
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Reply #21 - Posted
2012-03-04 23:30:29 » |
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Speaking of closing... Do I understand correctly that there is no rule given for when you can start work on an entry?
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Riven
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Reply #22 - Posted
2012-03-04 23:35:13 » |
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Speaking of closing... Do I understand correctly that there is no rule given for when you can start work on an entry?
You can start 4 years ahead of time. Let's say that some of us do exactly that. |
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appel
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Reply #23 - Posted
2012-03-05 01:11:01 » |
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Speaking of closing... Do I understand correctly that there is no rule given for when you can start work on an entry?
There is no rule like that because it would be crazy to try and enforce it. |
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ReBirth
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Reply #24 - Posted
2012-03-05 01:39:14 » |
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Same as ludum dare, you can start creating some sprites or code some basics 10 years before the event. No one know and blame you.
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pelle
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Reply #25 - Posted
2012-03-05 13:41:50 » |
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My question wasn't if anyone would know or blame me, but if it is something we are supposed to do. Obviously I understand that it can not be enforced, but many (even most?) programming competitions still have some kind of start date, and you are supposed to not start any actual coding before that date. Do people start WIP threads around here long before the deadline too? |
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ReBirth
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Reply #26 - Posted
2012-03-05 13:48:12 » |
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It goes back to each person's inner. Someone who has high taste of justice, love nature and animal (like me  ) will start in fair. |
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pelle
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Reply #27 - Posted
2012-03-05 13:53:19 » |
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It goes back to each person's inner. Someone who has high taste of justice, love nature and animal (like me ) will start in fair. The rules should probably be edited to mention this fair start date if there is supposed to be one. EDIT: Oh, Apple already confirmed there is no rule, even though I do not agree that the reason given is a good one. I think a better reason would be that we want more awesome games and that the competition is about coding small, not coding fast. EDIT2: On the other hand I might need 10 months to recover from this before I can look at 4k code again. |
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Reply #28 - Posted
2012-03-05 13:53:57 » |
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Do people start WIP threads around here long before the deadline too?
I think the first post of this thread answers that question: http://www.java-gaming.org/topics/gentlemen/25188/view.htmlSequels (provided that they really are sequels, i.e. they add something significant) are surely acceptable, and imply reusing code from a previous year. Entries which weren't finished in time can be finished and submitted next year. I personally have a few games which I've started but not finished, and I intend to finish at least one of those for next year's contest. |
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Damocles
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Reply #29 - Posted
2012-03-05 17:22:31 » |
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The restriction in the 4K Contest ist the size of the output, not the development time.
Other competitions revolve around a time contraint.
Where others again revolve around a specific content/Theme.
Putting too many restrictions together makes the contest loose focus and put off people.
A "make a 4k, 40x30 pixel EGA, Cowboys in Space game within 2 days" Contest would not have many contestants.
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