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Offline StonePickaxes

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« Posted 2012-01-18 14:38:09 »

I have quite a few ideas in mind of options to take after I am done primarily using swing and awt. But, how long should I stick with it? I feel ready to move onto LWJGL or JOGL.

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« Reply #1 - Posted 2012-01-18 17:31:07 »

As long as it works for you and you like it.  If you want to keep going with swing and haven't started with Java2D, I definitely recommend giving that a go.

For OpenGL APIs, both LWJGL and JOGL are very capable.  I personally recommend LWJGL because of stuff like TWL and jME that works on top of it.  JOGL has its own widget sets and engines, but those two are best of breed (if only the former had more documentation).
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« Reply #2 - Posted 2012-01-18 18:06:55 »

If you are serious about game development then AWT/Swing will only take you so far before you start hitting its limitations for anything slightly demanding.

Switching over to OpenGL is a good idea as you can pretty much throw anything at it and it'll render it decently. Do keep in mind both LWJGL and JOGL are just bindings to the raw C libraries which are pretty low level, so you'll spend a lot of time writing boilerplate code and reinventing the wheel, so going for something slightly higher level will help you be a lot more productive.

Libraries like Slick2D or LibGDX are a good first step up from Java2D as they give you a nice easy high level API (similar to Java2D) while giving you the speed and smoothness of OpenGL (and OpenAL).
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« Reply #3 - Posted 2012-01-19 06:24:46 »

Might be useful Smiley

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« Reply #4 - Posted 2012-01-19 09:15:46 »

For OpenGL APIs, both LWJGL and JOGL are very capable.  I personally recommend LWJGL because of stuff like TWL and jME that works on top of it.  JOGL has its own widget sets and engines, but those two are best of breed (if only the former had more documentation).
Some engines support both LWJGL and JOGL, for example JMonkeyEngine 2.0 (contact me in PM if you need some support of JMonkeyEngine 3 for JOGL) and Ardor3D. That's true for NiftyGUI too (I wrote its JOGL 2.0 backend). TWL only works with LWJGL but it would not be that hard to port to JOGL thanks to NEWT. JMonkeyEngine has a large community and a nice game development environment based on Netbeans RCP but I find this engine less reliable than Ardor3D.

JOGL has a few build-in widgets but they require shader support  Undecided

I agree with kappa, LibGDX and Slick are worth a try too.

Agile2D is very similar to Java2D.

As far as I know, you can use Swing components with JOGL and LWJGL.

Maybe look at this too:
http://www.java-gaming.org/topics/hello/24411/msg/205141/view.html#msg205141

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« Reply #5 - Posted 2012-01-19 14:10:19 »

Thanks guys, I think I'll stick with 2D for a little while until I know everything I can about it.

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