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Offline Morgan Allen
« Reply #120 - Posted 2013-10-30 16:51:31 »

The problem is that, although the java code itself should naturally be cross-platform, I'm apparently not making very efficient use of certain OpenGL features, and in ways that become very visible under windows drivers.  This is a problem that I certainly intend to address, but it will take time, so I won't be releasing on windows immediately.  (According to Kerai, it runs okay on Linux though, so that might be a nearer-term option.)

Thanks for the feedback anyways.
Offline Morgan Allen
« Reply #121 - Posted 2013-11-11 23:50:51 »

Sorry about the hiatus, but here we are- a working, standalone demo app for OSX.  (I had to sort out some subtle bugs related to JVM versioning and decoding class files within jars.  Bah.)

https://github.com/Morgan-Allen/Presidium_Demo_Mac

There's a few extra features I need to either add or smooth out, but for now, this should be enough to play around with.  As always, feedback is welcome.


Oh, just so you know I haven't been idle- here's a very rough tone-sketch/preview of some supplementary art I've been working on- game-setup-screen portraits for (left to right) Houses Taygeta, Procyon, Suhail and Altair:

Offline Morgan Allen
« Reply #122 - Posted 2013-11-15 23:50:10 »

Updated the app with a couple of new psi-power features (such as save-and-quit,) and fixed a number of teething problems.
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Offline lcass
« Reply #123 - Posted 2013-11-16 00:54:35 »

Im going to say this. Brilliant. Purely brilliant the amount of effort and time that has gone into this project is fantastic excellent artwork I love it , brilliant game idea. Are you considering to complete a multiplayer? Hope this continues to develop as it is!
Offline Morgan Allen
« Reply #124 - Posted 2013-11-16 18:58:19 »

Thank you!  We artists... well we love praise, yet we love truth better.

I don't have any immediate plans for a multiplayer option, but if it ever gets to the stage where I have proper voicelines and music done- and I hope it will- then I'll probably try adding multiplayer as well (at least over LAN or using a shared server a-la minecraft.)  I recall this was one of Kerai's wishlist options as well, so if folks have other requests, let me know.
Offline Morgan Allen
« Reply #125 - Posted 2013-11-23 18:37:58 »

Not much more progress to report at the moment (busy trying to fix up lairs, ruins and native villages, combat/contact missions, etc.)  In the meantime, here's a small demo video I might as well share:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k1WnR5yl1Vc
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« Reply #126 - Posted 2013-11-25 20:27:54 »

Great video. It looks similar to Age of Civilization (which is a good thing).

Offline Morgan Allen
« Reply #127 - Posted 2013-12-13 14:55:08 »

Haven't posted in a while, but just to keep folks in the loop:  New functionality/art is being delayed by sorting out bugs and gaps in *old* functionality/art.  Which is good, but not terribly exciting per se.  But I can likely post some new videos covering combat and housing evolution at least.

On a more promising note, I might have some good/big news to announce on the collaboration front some time in the new year.  We will see.


Expanding on some ideas from earlier in the thread, I think I may have worked out some more specific (though still hypothetical) solutions to the problems of 'scaling'.  The big step here would be to limit the game to a single planet (and possibly save others for expansions,) using a settlement paradigm similar to Deadlock or Sid Meier's Colonization.  The game therefore operates on 2-and-a-half distinct scales:  the settlement scale, and the planetary+homeworld scale.

Basically, each planetary faction (or House) has a backing or patron Homeworld which provides initial supplies and colonists, but gradually shifts from blessing to burden as your estates expand and more tribute has to be shipped back home.  Aside from being an interesting progressive-taxation mechanic, this allows a degree of integration with the larger setting, without having to model it too dynamically (the Homeworlds are too distant and populous for you to heavily impact their politics & culture during the course of the game.)

On the planetary level, however, the various sub-continental territories can all be claimed, invaded or colonised by the competing factions, who can themselves be allied or negotiated (or married?) with, all using the traditionally dynamic 4X or grand-strategy paradigm (albeit greatly simplified- we're not looking at more than 20 territories here.)  But the populations and extent of these territories are comparable, so it's reasonable to have them impact eachother.

That just leaves integration between your particular settlement and the management of a territory, which is tied to the shift between early and late-stage gameplay.  The 'early game' (at least within a particular assignment) consists of exploring the map, ferreting out resistance, and either conquering or assimilating it, while your initial base gradually expands into a mature settlement.  (The surrounding territory, of which this is merely the 'capital sector' is assumed to follow your rough example.)  This then gives you enough military, demographic or cultural clout that you can start throwing your weight around in adjacent territories, and begin gradually annexing them into your estates.

The way that this expansion is modelled on the settlement level is that your vassals and allies among the ruling classes will establish 'holiday homes' of a sort within your capital, so that as more tribute rolls in, the problems of securing and processing natural resources on the same map are largely displaced by the 'later-game' headaches of keeping visiting nobles pampered and obliging.  Which goes a fair ways toward ensuring they don't rebel, and helps provide an 'organic' method for interfacing with political intrigue, given that a large chunk of your citizens will be representatives of the ruling elite.

However, this still leaves the problem of (A) inheriting/conquering foreign settlements, and (B) coming back to your own settlement after long absences, both of which would require some method of doing relatively quick simulations of hundreds of in-game days of development and AI-ordered construction in ways which still create a functional economy.  And... I don't really want to think about that yet.

Offline Morgan Allen
« Reply #128 - Posted 2014-01-09 19:55:46 »

At any rate, closer to home, new videos covering ecology simulation and basic combat routines-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UlvrmjijPsM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGA_XUezSPw

EDIT:  Also, housing evolution-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jrt8innlkuM
Offline Morgan Allen
« Reply #129 - Posted 2014-01-21 12:59:21 »

Good news everyoneI've taught the toaster to feel love!  Also, Kerai and I have made further progress on porting the game's graphics routines over to LibGDX & shaders, which means that we should be able to release demos for windows/linux, and possibly iOS/android, in the relatively near future.

At least one of the above statements is a lie.
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Offline Varkas
« Reply #130 - Posted 2014-01-21 13:44:14 »

I like the building designs. Very creative!

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Offline Morgan Allen
« Reply #131 - Posted 2014-01-21 16:55:07 »

Thank you!  Out of curiosity, any thoughts on the gameplay clips above?
Offline Morgan Allen
« Reply #132 - Posted 2014-01-27 19:40:29 »



Recent brainwave- for a long time I was agonising over the proper roles of various buildings, like the town vault, stock exchange, bastion, etc.- since a lot of the time, their functions seemed overlapping or mildly redundant, but I didn't want to just throw away all the effort invested in the art.  So I decided that I could re-use the art as different stages in a single-structure's 'upgrade sequence'.

It'll need some polish, but I'm pretty happy with how the town vault/bastion/palace sequence worked out.  In the meantime, there's been some more progress with the LibGDX conversion.  More at 11.
Offline Varkas
« Reply #133 - Posted 2014-02-03 11:39:13 »



Recent brainwave

When I read that, I was initially thinking you have created a mind control facitily for your game Cheesy

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Offline ags1

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« Reply #134 - Posted 2014-02-03 22:45:47 »

The art in this game is incredible. The gameplay videos remind me a lot of Age Of Civilization, which is a very good thing.

I will pay money for this game.

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« Reply #135 - Posted 2014-02-05 22:50:37 »

Do you think it's about time to change the title of this thread? I mean you've come a bit further than just "Buildings and Concept Art." Which is incredible.
Offline Morgan Allen
« Reply #136 - Posted 2014-02-06 13:57:54 »

Huh.  Didn't realise I could modify the OP now.  Will do.

When I read that, I was initially thinking you have created a mind control facility for your game Cheesy
Mind control is actually one of the types of psyon ability the player-character can learn, and the palace level enhances range/cooldown on those, so... technically, it's pretty close.

Anyway, thanks for all the support, and I'll let you know once I have some major new feature to show off.
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