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Offline Icecore

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« Posted 2011-03-12 14:26:09 »

tunablereality[dot]p[dot]ht
+ tureal[dot]uk[dot]to

Cube world game (update cubes on something more advance later)
Api java,Opengl

What have now: Terrain generator ,Auto grass grow Wink, Unlimited world (X,Y,Z), collision , place block system, save-load.

What can do now: Run, jump, swim, place block or take them off.

Site Offline

Download on Site tunablereality[dot]p[dot]ht

Keys
Move "W,A,S,D"  Jump "Space" Hot Bar "1-6"
Show Select obj "Q"
Fly "F" Invetory " i " Menu "Esc"
Options

Fog - Render distance ,the lower number the faster game render.
Frame limit - If you want play without lags set in "On" ,this also prevent game from using additional Pc resource.
Render full – turn off part of bsp tree can add lags but render all hi can Wink
Model Range – range for transform hi detail model to low detail (the lower the more fps you gain (in theory:)))
If you have lags first set Fog on “Close 1”, Render full “Off”,Model Range”0” and set Frame limit “On”,
If lags don’t disappear turn on “Show FPS” if fps lower then 50  and  “OBJ all” lower then 800
(Also check in Task list (in OS) CPU usage if  you have something like 70+ % CPU usage on game with all this option ,don’t forget to Post me you’re CPU name and CPU usage)
Post me you’re Video card name, Fps, OBJ cont;)
About
Version 0.1471
Bug fix
Version 0.147
Add tress mobs ,cactus Smiley
Version 0.13
Add Unlimited world (X,Y,Z), upgrade terrain generator, add grass auto grow(also snow falls auto and water)
In this version fly speed 100%
In water 60% on sand 80%.
Grass grow 5 sec for big grass and small,
Water 0.5 sec flow,
Snow 0.25 sec;

Version 0.12
Add grass, flowers ,trees fix some bugs ,and many else small things that I cant remember now.

Version 0.11
Add fly ,rewrite gravity ,do some optimization (150%+ fps),rewrite half texture loader, also you can now use own texture (rewrite exist in folder bim\stot they must be same name and ‘JPG’)also when you change texture they change HUD (box texture in HUD),Rewrite Water (now shi flows unique every block)simple try - its funny ,and many-many else small thing (cant remember it now) HF =)

Img Video
Version 0.13



Video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4QH5VPvbVd8
(unlimited world)
Version 0.12


Video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nEfe11eVrNk

Version 0.11


Version 0.10


Video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8bBOPhhS18

Plan on next version:
Project Frozen.
Offline Mads

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« Reply #1 - Posted 2011-03-12 17:53:16 »

Even though this is nice work, I don't really see the originalty. We both know that this is basicly minecraft re-implemented.
It's a nice engine and all, but it's the gameplay that really matters.

Offline Icecore

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« Reply #2 - Posted 2011-03-12 22:17:00 »

Even though this is nice work, I don't really see the originalty. We both know that this is basicly minecraft re-implemented.
It's a nice engine and all, but it's the gameplay that really matters.
It fully different engine  from craft ,maybe its looks same but same applet take only 40 mb when craft eat 100 mb on same map size, also in test generator I have unlimited x,y,z when craft only x,z (if you try craft you understand me) I don’t include this feature I fear my free hosting cant hold unlimited maps ( problems with size I have limit Sad  ), about texture , we can use really hi resolution texture ,to prevent error with different video carts I use max 512x512.
Now I want finish site after this I return to game:)
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Offline zammbi

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« Reply #3 - Posted 2011-03-13 02:34:15 »

The last Minecraft clone got a lot of hate. So I suggest making it not look like a Minecraft clone.

Current project - Rename and Sort
Offline SimonH
« Reply #4 - Posted 2011-03-13 03:49:19 »

Yeah, sorry, it looks technically competent but isn't it just another clone - I don't see anything new...?
Try something different: (here's a tip) use tetrahedrons instead of cubes - the maths is cleaner (marching tetrahedrons algorithm) and the landscape would be much smoother! AFAIK no-one's done it yet...
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Offline ra4king

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« Reply #5 - Posted 2011-03-13 05:03:07 »

Whoa Minecraft copy! As zammbi said, you're gonna get A LOT of hate Grin
Good luck!

Offline Icecore

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« Reply #6 - Posted 2011-03-13 08:18:59 »

Whoa Minecraft copy! As zammbi said, you're gonna get A LOT of hate Grin
Good luck!
Ty Smiley
Offline Nate

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« Reply #7 - Posted 2011-03-13 08:44:20 »

No one should be hating just because a game is similar to Minecraft. Icecore even explained it in his first post. Minecraft copied ideas from Dwarf Fortress and Infiniminer. Markus has stated he has no problem with people borrowing Minecraft ideas and innovating. He already has infinite terrain on all axes, which Minecraft doesn't. There is no need to be defensive. If his Minecraft clone can challenge Minecraft, then that in itself is an achievement. Either way, let him have fun. This game should be treated with the same respect as any other game posted on these boards.

Some people write Minecraft clients that can connect to real Minecraft servers without the need to pay. That is very different, and a good reason to get upset.

Offline Icecore

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« Reply #8 - Posted 2011-03-13 09:01:09 »

No one should be hating just because a game is similar to Minecraft. Icecore even explained it in his first post. Minecraft copied ideas from Dwarf Fortress and Infiniminer. Markus has stated he has no problem with people borrowing Minecraft ideas and innovating. He already has infinite terrain on all axes, which Minecraft doesn't. There is no need to be defensive. If his Minecraft clone can challenge Minecraft, then that in itself is an achievement. Either way, let him have fun. This game should be treated with the same respect as any other game posted on these boards.

Some people write Minecraft clients that can connect to real Minecraft servers without the need to pay. That is very different, and a good reason to get upset.
ty Smiley
Up for site:
add new file hosting (downloading fastert And support cache system lwjgl but have Bandwidth in 5 times lesser Smiley)
old link on bottom of Play
Offline teletubo
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« Reply #9 - Posted 2011-03-13 13:20:55 »

I Wanted to try it but I think you are expecting a little too much of us by requiring registering just to play the 0.10a version .
I suggest you skip this part for now and let us just test your game without giving out our email and filling other 5 fields .
(I bet you got close to zero registration up to now)

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Offline Icecore

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« Reply #10 - Posted 2011-03-13 15:21:43 »

I Wanted to try it but I think you are expecting a little too much of us by requiring registering just to play the 0.10a version .
I suggest you skip this part for now and let us just test your game without giving out our email and filling other 5 fields .
(I bet you got close to zero registration up to now)
I don’t have email authorization  simple write any email ,name and pass(try dont forget them:))
(all passes encode in DB for you’re and my safety;) they don’t have decode algorithm only way decode them is ‘brut force’ even rewersing encode algorithm wile be same ’brut forse”.)
(email and second pass need for later when I finish forgot pass system and option on site)
Offline teletubo
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« Reply #11 - Posted 2011-03-13 20:56:56 »

I'm not worried about security. I'm talking about people being lazy.
I have developed (and finished) a few games now and I can tell you, people are far less excited about your game than you are . Dont get me wrong i'm not talking about your project in particular, I'm talking about any inddie or unknown game in general.
If you want people to try your indie, unknown and unfinhshed game, I suggest you remove any kind of barrier between the link you provide and the game itself.
Maybe then they'll give it a shot .

Offline Alan_W

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« Reply #12 - Posted 2011-03-13 22:47:25 »

Yeah, sorry, it looks technically competent but isn't it just another clone - I don't see anything new...?
Try something different: (here's a tip) use tetrahedrons instead of cubes - the maths is cleaner (marching tetrahedrons algorithm) and the landscape would be much smoother! AFAIK no-one's done it yet...
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An interesting thought.  I've recently knocked together a model designer using cubes with an eye on JavaFx 2.0.  You drag faces and corners in plan, side and front view and group cubes together for animation purposes.  It didn't take long to write and I can knock up 'robot' like wireframe models in a few seconds. Texture unwrap is trivial too. When Oracle have implemented TexturePaint (in 3D) then non-cube shapes will be possible.  I was looking at the Marching Cubes algorithm (apparently the patent has expired now) with interest.  The terrain and models would still be a bit lumpy, but much easier to design than doing arbitrary 3D meshes.  There is a slight drawback in that buildings that are supposed to be angular would get a somewhat 'melted' look.  I think it might be better to stick with a cube bounding box, but allow a number of different shapes to be chosen at design time.  Alternatively maybe have a 'Marching Cubes' flag against each cube to indicate whether it should be smoothed.  There might be some difficulties merging smoothed and nonsmoothed terrain.  Anyway, enough off topic waffling.

On-topic: I looked at the video.  Very minecraft-esque.

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Offline Icecore

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« Reply #13 - Posted 2011-03-14 18:11:08 »

Offline version , simple download unpack and run html (don’t have save load).
http://www.gamefront.com/files/20126240/woc010.zip
On-topic: I looked at the video.  Very minecraft-esque.
Many games are similar to other games, it, doesn't do their bad, or good always need try Smiley
Offline Eli Delventhal

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« Reply #14 - Posted 2011-03-14 22:28:27 »

Looks pretty cool, even if it is just Minecraft redone (but that in itself is an achievement).

I would suggest doing more to distinguish your game from Minecraft, and focusing on that instead of trying to get feature parity.

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Offline Icecore

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« Reply #15 - Posted 2011-03-15 11:22:21 »

Looks pretty cool, even if it is just Minecraft redone (but that in itself is an achievement).

I would suggest doing more to distinguish your game from Minecraft, and focusing on that instead of trying to get feature parity.
Many thing need to do(upgrade collision, do best optimization, rewrite terrain generator(add trees etc), and many else…)
I do site now when finish him return to game =)
p.s  If have any problem with running post it here .
Offline Mads

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One for all!


« Reply #16 - Posted 2011-03-15 12:47:14 »

I vote for tetrahedrons  Tongue

Offline SwampChicken
« Reply #17 - Posted 2011-03-15 13:44:25 »

Screenshots?
Offline Icecore

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« Reply #18 - Posted 2011-03-15 15:03:59 »

Screenshots?
If you about errors , yes better screenshots , if you about “can I see game screenshots” better look the video or try it Smiley
(link up on gamefront)
Offline Icecore

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« Reply #19 - Posted 2011-03-15 17:24:34 »

I vote for tetrahedrons  Tongue
Only now remember Smiley I used already something similar with tetrahedrons (really strange form objects) I use them to do more smother mounts  Smiley (100%  cube world looks weird)


Offline Icecore

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« Reply #20 - Posted 2011-03-16 18:32:50 »

Yeah, sorry, it looks technically competent but isn't it just another clone - I don't see anything new...?
Try something different: (here's a tip) use tetrahedrons instead of cubes - the maths is cleaner (marching tetrahedrons algorithm) and the landscape would be much smoother! AFAIK no-one's done it yet...
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I create cubes with 2 polygons it takes 16 GPU calls(don’t see no one hu create models with my( that’s what i use)algorithm  Smiley) , 3 polygons 18 calls ,when creating cube with 6 polygons takes 24 calls its really good optimization =)
(if create by triangles its take 36 calls)
tetrahedrons 24 calls Wink
p.s there are many nice algorithm but time for them not come Wink
Offline Icecore

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« Reply #21 - Posted 2011-03-17 16:41:04 »

Finish site rest couple days and return to game:)
p.s (Site hosting work very slow Sad maybe its only for few days after his crash( hi crash today)…)
Offline Icecore

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« Reply #22 - Posted 2011-03-21 17:12:15 »

My “holy war” with polys continue Smiley
I again try to optimize cube ,and triangles win (don’t know why but earlier won polygons)
Try fast optimize light (picture without light hard for understanding especially end and start of cliff) use normal opengl light , looks better ,but that’s not finale, need rewrite all system =)

              after                                      before
now cubes looks so cubastic.
p.s I think I finish for today,if someone wants offline version with save, load post Smiley (I can do it really fast but don’t know need shi right now someone or no)
Offline Icecore

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« Reply #23 - Posted 2011-03-23 16:29:48 »

Update first post add offline version(have save load)
Offline SimonH
« Reply #24 - Posted 2011-03-23 17:36:43 »

I don't like to be harsh as you're obviously enjoying yourself, but you keep saying your game is better than *ahem* other games (like a car is better than a wheel), but how? I already have accounts for similar games, so why should I play yours?
What is your unique selling point?

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Offline Icecore

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« Reply #25 - Posted 2011-03-23 19:17:32 »

I don't like to be harsh as you're obviously enjoying yourself, but you keep saying your game is better than *ahem* other games (like a car is better than a wheel), but how? I already have accounts for similar games, so why should I play yours?
What is your unique selling point?
I don’t say that’s someone have better or worst game Smiley And hope that’s I don’t say this in future,
I simple say that no need compare different games ( finished project and project that only start)
(“All real time strategy looks like dune 2 and they not steal idea they upgrade it .
Like car is upgrade of wheel.”)
Offline SimonH
« Reply #26 - Posted 2011-03-24 01:53:25 »

I simple say that no need compare different games ( finished project and project that only start)
That's what I'm asking - how will WOC be different from minecraft?
I appreciate your skill, it's not easy to get as far as you have already, but I'm afraid that you'll hit the 'just another MC clone' wall. You're good at coding but you'll lose kudos by just copying.
What can you add to this to make it special?

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Offline Icecore

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« Reply #27 - Posted 2011-03-24 18:33:20 »

I simple say that no need compare different games ( finished project and project that only start)
That's what I'm asking - how will WOC be different from minecraft?
I appreciate your skill, it's not easy to get as far as you have already, but I'm afraid that you'll hit the 'just another MC clone' wall. You're good at coding but you'll lose kudos by just copying.
What can you add to this to make it special?
Thanks for good words, i add some gameplay in 0.5-2 month (maybe earlier) ,need fix many things in game engine.
It won’t be something special and unique if I say it now:)

Do this today (rewrite half texture loader , later rewrite texture-text loader) also add some light on texture (not game light , simple texture lighter and darker to easy understand map)
hm fps lose 3-4% need rewrite texture to avoid it Smiley
Offline Icecore

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« Reply #28 - Posted 2011-03-29 15:55:53 »

Version 0.11 update go rest some time:)
Offline Icecore

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« Reply #29 - Posted 2011-04-01 14:15:15 »

Hm funny thing billboard use GPU same like full cube, and that’s all without calculating his angel and etc.
(billboard glRotate glCallList , cube glCallList)

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