What's the most technologically advanced game written in Java?

[Eli Delventhal]

The 2 main reasons games are written in C++ or perhaps C# are 1. Porting to consoles and 2. No one ever got fired for buying IBM.

Really "games industry code" is another way of saying dogma with money. The quality of code in a lot of commercial games throws the performance argument out the window. Its pretty much bad code with poor performance (insert "but can it play Crysis" here) and a bucket load of instability. The network code is most games is truly awful.

I can agree with that. Deadlines almost always override good code in terms of priority.

[ido]

This brings [size=13pt]point #2[/size]. You have no control about the site updates. You cannot keep an old version of a web site. [size=13pt]Can you?[/size]. Another big reason for my anger. I don't feel I'm in control anymore.

Feature, not bug. I don't want players to use old versions of my games (so that e.g. I won't continue getting bug reports about stuff fixed long ago)  & by doing a web game you get free auto-updating.

[Eli Delventhal]

Feature, not bug. I don't want players to use old versions of my games (so that e.g. I won't continue getting bug reports about stuff fixed long ago)  & by doing a web game you get free auto-updating.

Yeah. With iPhone development (where users can indeed hold onto old versions of an app if they want), we often force people to update remotely (lock the game if they have an old version) because every time we release content bundles and the like we need to make a different version of them for every single live version of the game. That means doubling, tripling, or even quadrupling the amount of work in some cases. No fun.

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[aNt]

you could make a cryengine in java imo, but today the best u can do is pong, 640*480 at a push. so i'd recommend using 3rd party api's for graphics to make anything good for the time being (ardor3d is cool).

[zammbi]

you could make a cryengine in java imo, but today the best u can do is pong, 640*480 at a push. so i'd recommend using 3rd party api's for graphics to make anything good for the time being (ardor3d is cool).

Isn't that obvious? heh...

Been looking at the current benchmark of Java: http://shootout.alioth.debian.org/
Looks like Java is the 3rd/4th fastest programming language (after C/C++).

[Draps]

The 2 main reasons games are written in C++ or perhaps C# are 1. Porting to consoles and 2. No one ever got fired for buying IBM.

Really "games industry code" is another way of saying dogma with money. The quality of code in a lot of commercial games throws the performance argument out the window. Its pretty much bad code with poor performance (insert "but can it play Crysis" here) and a bucket load of instability. The network code is most games is truly awful.

this is quite true.