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Offline bobjob

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« Posted 2010-07-13 07:57:39 »

would be neat if there was a little iframe on the side, that people could open.
to run a little chat room applet. that uses that JGO name.
example: http://have2chat.net/jgo

something that needs to be clicked on, to be revealed, as would make the page look like a mess, aspecially for new comers.

an iframe aligned along the right that is 10pixels wide (with an arrow exand icon), when clicked expands to 120 pixels wide, and loads an applet.

not really important at all, more of a toy.

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« Reply #1 - Posted 2010-07-13 08:01:37 »

So on each page load, you'd leave/enter the chat room?

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Offline bobjob

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« Reply #2 - Posted 2010-07-13 08:02:32 »

not really, as long as page changes use "_self" instead of "_top" like linking.
and each section(chat applet/jgo forum) is in its own iframe.

also, id be happy to program it.

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Offline bobjob

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« Reply #3 - Posted 2010-07-13 08:07:55 »

In order not to change any forum implementation.

it might be best to use a different URL something like:

www.java-gaming.org/chat_on.html
or
www.chaton.java-gaming.org

with a simple page to open the default (www.java-gaming.org) index in a frame
and a side frame for the chat url holding the applet.


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Offline oNyx

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« Reply #4 - Posted 2010-07-13 15:21:55 »

There is #lwjgl @ freenode, by the way.

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Offline h3ckboy

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« Reply #5 - Posted 2010-07-13 16:36:50 »

There is #lwjgl @ freenode, by the way.
but thats not JGO Wink, which I think is what bobjob is after
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« Reply #6 - Posted 2010-07-13 16:58:35 »

but thats not JGO Wink, which I think is what bobjob is after

alot of the active JGO ppl hang out in #lwjgl and its pretty much the best java gaming related irc channel anyway. You can pretty much get help for any java problem there and its not just limited to the LWJGL and Slick2D.

However there is always #javagaming on freenode but thats pretty dead compared to #lwjgl.

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Offline oNyx

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« Reply #7 - Posted 2010-07-13 17:19:41 »

but thats not JGO Wink [...]

As far as I am concerned, it is.

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Offline bobjob

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« Reply #8 - Posted 2010-07-13 18:51:55 »

yeah I already know about the IRC channels.

I know that they can be useful. I have given them a good try.
Alot of people are logged in, yet not active in the channel. Not saying I got problem with observers, or any of it for that matter.
but yeah just not my thing.

I guess Im just looking for a good time Tongue

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Offline oNyx

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« Reply #9 - Posted 2010-07-13 19:52:15 »

You are new to IRC huh? Activity is completely random.

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Offline bobjob

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« Reply #10 - Posted 2010-07-13 20:15:31 »

You are new to IRC huh? Activity is completely random.
new to LWJGL Channel? or IRC as a whole?
Either way... Im familiar with how IRC Channels work and I also used LWJGL one for a decent period years ago.

I was just sharing, its not for me.

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Offline Swattkidd7

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« Reply #11 - Posted 2010-07-13 20:32:50 »

if you look at Gamejolt they have a small chat on the bottom of the page that pops up, im assuming using JQuery, and then slides back down so people can choose to open it or close it whenever. It is pretty cool for just basic chatting, but most of the time gets filled with annoying people. Although I am sure it wouldn't be bad here as the maturity levels are different.
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« Reply #12 - Posted 2010-07-14 20:22:01 »

It is pretty cool for just basic chatting, but most of the time gets filled with annoying people. Although I am sure it wouldn't be bad here as the maturity levels are different.
yeah, and it helps that this is a developing place, not a gaming site
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« Reply #13 - Posted 2010-07-15 20:19:29 »

I've tried but never gotten into IRC, so I second the idea of having a JOGL chat room.

Offline bobjob

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« Reply #14 - Posted 2010-07-16 07:41:20 »

I wanted to test if a frame idea would work well with JGO

this is what I got:
http://have2chat.net/jgo

very simple code
the source is:

index.php
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<?php
header('P3P:CP="IDC DSP COR ADM DEVi TAIi PSA PSD IVAi IVDi CONi HIS OUR IND CNT"');
?>
<HTML>
<META NAME="description" CONTENT="http://www.java-gaming.org/index.php">
<HEAD>
<style type="text/css">
body { color: #000000; background-color: #ffffff; scrolling=none; font-family: Verdana, Arial, sans-serif; padding: 0px; font-size: 12px; margin: 0px}
</style>
</HEAD>
<body>
<center>
<iframe  allowtransparency="true" src="http://www.java-gaming.org/" scrolling=auto frameborder="no" border=0 width="100%" height="70%" marginleft=0 margintop=0 marginright=0 marginbottom=0></iframe>
</center>
<center>
<iframe border=0 scrolling=no frameborder="no" src ="http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=javagaming" width="100%" height="30%" marginleft=0 margintop=0 marginright=0 marginbottom=0 ></iframe>
</center>
</body>
</HTML>



This style of webpage could not only be used as a frame for a chat applet.
If you want to get a little bit more hard core it could be used as a 1 at a time applet display page. for the showcase section.
as long as a query string is passed to it, you could set up all custom params, main class, etc...

That said, if it was going to be used as a chat applet, the challenge would be passing the JGO user names to the applet on load.

Edit: added changes to include JavaGaming chat

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Offline Riven
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« Reply #15 - Posted 2010-07-16 07:49:43 »

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No Color Tags In HTML
Have2Chat Starting...
No Port tag in HTML
java.lang.IndexOutOfBoundsException: Index: 0, Size: 0
   at java.util.ArrayList.RangeCheck(Unknown Source)
   at java.util.ArrayList.get(Unknown Source)
   at client.b.d.a(Unknown Source)
   at client.b.d.<init>(Unknown Source)
   at client.b.a.a(Unknown Source)
   at client.b.a.d(Unknown Source)
   at client.i.run(Unknown Source)
   at java.lang.Thread.run(Unknown Source)
Error detecting webcam


Other than that, I wonder why you picked voice chat, for a programmer forum... Lips Sealed

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Offline bobjob

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« Reply #16 - Posted 2010-07-16 07:51:51 »

you must have clicked on the wrong link, one of ones in my sig.

full address: http://have2chat.net/jgo/index.php

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« Reply #17 - Posted 2010-07-16 08:16:30 »

you must have clicked on the wrong link, one of ones in my sig.

full address: http://have2chat.net/jgo/index.html

Actually, I clicked them both, as the /jgo/ applet was so slow: it took 30sec to even start downloading the jar. The System.out got probably  interleaved. Sorry.

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« Reply #18 - Posted 2010-07-16 10:31:15 »

I can't see the dynamic of a chat on this web site being any different from IRC. In that a lot of people are "online" but not available to chat. then all at once every is a online and available to chat.  #lwjgl is pretty active really.

Not really for or against, but I don't see how that side of things would be any different. If it is done then something without applets would be better. ie something like google mail chat would be more reliable across platforms and browsers.

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Offline JL235

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« Reply #19 - Posted 2010-07-17 00:12:53 »

I'd much rather see a HTML chat room then via a Java applet.

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« Reply #20 - Posted 2010-07-18 04:33:21 »

Cool, so I guess thats its a majority "No" for an applet chat room.

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« Reply #21 - Posted 2010-07-19 14:45:49 »

I recommend #lwjgl on freenode.

HTML chat is really silly. I got a irc client running on my pc at home, at all times, I'm always on. With HTML web chat, you need to specifically open it. Restarting your browser will log you off, while the IRC client rarely is restarted and runs in the background, and is generally much richer and convenient to use and operate.

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« Reply #22 - Posted 2010-07-19 15:40:28 »

I'd much rather see a HTML chat room then via a Java applet.

html chat is really easy to get, in fact freenode even provide their own implementation for example #LWJGL

you can just embed the above using something like
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<iframe src="http://webchat.freenode.net?channels=lwjgl" width="647" height="400"></iframe>
Offline bobjob

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« Reply #23 - Posted 2010-07-19 19:12:12 »

html chat is really easy to get, in fact freenode even provide their own implementation for example #LWJGL

you can just embed the above using something like
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<iframe src="http://webchat.freenode.net?channels=lwjgl" width="647" height="400"></iframe>

thats really cool. I think ill start using this for now on.

here is what it looks like in the iFrame:
http://have2chat.net/jgo

If this was something that people wanted:
* Needs to be hosted on the javagaming server or else cookies wont work on Internet Explorer - fixed
* maybe some eticate instructions explaining, that if solutions are found off forum, that they should be posted in Thread.

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« Reply #24 - Posted 2010-07-19 20:48:42 »

great job!!!!

its great, but it would be nice if you could make it appear and disapear, like gamejolt.com
Offline bobjob

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« Reply #25 - Posted 2010-07-19 23:13:45 »

but it would be nice if you could make it appear and disapear, like gamejolt.com
anyone want to help with this one Smiley
feel free to post some code.

also should the chat be linked to JGO or LWJGL?
currently its JGO

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Offline bobjob

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« Reply #26 - Posted 2010-07-19 23:47:11 »

if you dont want to type in your username each time.
use the URL->
http://have2chat.net/jgo/index.php?nick=<your username>

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Offline JL235

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« Reply #27 - Posted 2010-07-20 07:38:55 »

HTML chat is really silly. I got a irc client running on my pc at home, at all times, I'm always on. With HTML web chat, you need to specifically open it. Restarting your browser will log you off, while the IRC client rarely is restarted and runs in the background, and is generally much richer and convenient to use and operate.
I frequent a programming site called SoCoder.net who have a HTML based chat room. It has multiple views, many being a full webpage so I do exactly the same as you describe above by leaving it running permanently in the background until I hear someone enter. In theirs you can embed code boxes, images (which appear as just thumbnails until clicked on), youtube videos and the sites cretor even made a tag to allow you to embed games off my site (something similar could be done for a Javagaming chat room for allowing people to embed applets within the chat room). Can you do all that embedding with IRC?

IRC can also be a little intimidating to those who haven't used it, programmers included.

Offline Swattkidd7

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« Reply #28 - Posted 2010-07-20 08:30:34 »

anyone want to help with this one Smiley
feel free to post some code.


I cant provide a code example at the moment but that shouldnt be too difficult with some basic jQuery, just create a small "footer" style thing at the bottom and when its clicked slideOut the chat, and when the border or something is clicked, slide it back down.
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« Reply #29 - Posted 2010-07-20 09:13:53 »

this is what i got so far:

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<?php
header('P3P:CP="IDC DSP COR ADM DEVi TAIi PSA PSD IVAi IVDi CONi HIS OUR IND CNT"');


$nick = $_GET['nick'];
$nick = stripslashes($nick);
$nick = htmlentities($nick);


echo'<HTML>';
echo'<META NAME="description" CONTENT="http://www.java-gaming.org/index.php">';
echo'<HEAD>';
echo'<link rel="SHORTCUT ICON" href="http://www.java-gaming.org/favicon.ico" />';
echo'<title>JavaGaming.org - With Chat</title>';
echo'<style type="text/css"> ';
echo'body { color: #000000; background-color: #ffffff; scrolling=none; font-family: Verdana, Arial, sans-serif; padding: 0px; font-size: 12px; margin: 0px}';
echo'</style> ';
echo'</HEAD>';
echo'<body>';
echo'<iframe  allowtransparency="true" src="http://www.java-gaming.org/" scrolling=auto frameborder="no" border=0 width="100%" height="70%" marginleft=0 margintop=0 marginright=0 marginbottom=0></iframe>';
echo'<iframe border=0 scrolling=no frameborder="no" src ="http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=javagaming&nick=',$nick,'" width="100%" height="25%" marginleft=0 margintop=0 marginright=0 marginbottom=0 ></iframe>';
echo'</body>';
echo'</HTML>';

?>


I havnt spent that much time in web dev, so it might be some time before i get it to hide (I havnt used jQuery before Ill look into it).
also I was thinking leave the IRC channel as JGO, for people who want help on the fly. more of an in and out room.

so far this is just playing around, but is there any possibility of actually getting it setup on javagaming?

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