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Offline princec

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« Reply #270 - Posted 2010-10-11 13:45:31 »

I'll pop in a hint on the research screen, and a later reminder, too.

Cas Smiley

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« Reply #271 - Posted 2010-10-11 18:17:28 »

I can not get this game to work. How do I start the game? There appears no buttons or anything on the title-screen  Undecided

Offline princec

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« Reply #272 - Posted 2010-10-11 19:34:44 »

No buttons?
Either they're off the screen for some reason (what's your screen res?) or you've got really broken drivers.

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Offline erikd

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« Reply #273 - Posted 2010-10-11 20:19:19 »

Cool

Actually, we've got a whole load of ideas. I'm in favour of a giant hands-off robot battle game, akin to Gratuitous Space Battles, but involving the droids from Droid Assault. You'd spend hours customising droids and armies, and then challenge people to a fight, and watch the battle. It'd have user-definable maps, and a challenge winnings system where you both put up $x to fight and winner takes all. And also possibly exotic parts, and salvage.

Cas Smiley



Being a bit devious here, but how about the winner takes 99%? ;-)

Offline princec

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« Reply #274 - Posted 2010-10-11 21:53:15 »

Way ahead of ya Wink I figured Puppygames would cream off 10% and the winner gets the other 90%.

Cas Smiley

Offline dishmoth
« Reply #275 - Posted 2010-10-12 06:42:16 »

EDGE: Puppy Games
After all the media attention given to Markus/Minecraft over the last few weeks, is it now Cas's turn? Cool

Offline Mads

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« Reply #276 - Posted 2010-10-12 08:28:39 »

No buttons?
Either they're off the screen for some reason (what's your screen res?) or you've got really broken drivers.

Cas Smiley

I'm on a 1440 x 900 resolution.
The buttons for changing name, and closing the game appears but nothing else.
I got the latest drivers for my Nvidia card Smiley

Used the webstart on my Ubuntu

Offline princec

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« Reply #277 - Posted 2010-10-12 10:07:17 »

Hm that's not an atypical resolution, and if the profile button appears so should the other buttons at the bottom. I bet they're just somehow off the bottom of the screen, but I can't think how. Can you send me the out.log file in your user home directory?

Cas Smiley

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« Reply #278 - Posted 2010-10-12 14:57:53 »

Hm that's not an atypical resolution, and if the profile button appears so should the other buttons at the bottom. I bet they're just somehow off the bottom of the screen, but I can't think how. Can you send me the out.log file in your user home directory?

Cas Smiley

Well I got no errors , so no log for now Tongue Though I have discovered that the window is too "long" for my screen, and the rest of the screen appears out of the screen.
I think the width is okay though.  Undecided

After playing around with my resolution I found that if I change the dimensions from 16:10, to 16:9 the screen top was hid instead of the buttom. Afterwards it locked my resolution to 16:9 when having the game window open.  Huh

Offline princec

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« Reply #279 - Posted 2010-10-12 16:43:10 »

out.log contains a line which says what screen mode it's setting. It's possible your xrandr configuration or whatever it is is reporting something funny to the game, which chooses a strange window size.


Grrr. Linux.

Cas Smiley

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Offline delt0r

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« Reply #280 - Posted 2010-10-12 17:40:48 »

As a Linux user I can appreciate the pain of dealing with different  X setups. Really there is no easy way to avoid a lot of support (if people use Linux for the game). What some have done is support a very narrow range of Linux setups. Then linux uses of other setups kinda have to work it out for themselves. I assure you that at least people like me don't mind.

xrand etc always causes issues if you don't have standard resolutions or a non standard something. The only way that really works reliability is to support a windowed mode. But i know you do this (works on my very oddly setup laptop with slackware).

The diversity of setup options is what i like about linux... but its also the reason that big companies don't officially support their game ports on Linux....

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Offline Mads

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« Reply #281 - Posted 2010-10-12 18:57:56 »

out.log contains a line which says what screen mode it's setting. It's possible your xrandr configuration or whatever it is is reporting something funny to the game, which chooses a strange window size.


Grrr. Linux.

Cas Smiley

My apologise for being so.. uneasy  Roll Eyes I just can not locate the out.log file.
I even did a system scan, while the app was running to check but nothing came up.

Did I mention I used the Java Webstart? Is there any way I can get you this information in a different manner?

I also tried the game (kind of.. had to move the windows several times to be able to see the game fully). It looks really impressive!
Definately somehting I would buy  Kiss

Offline princec

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« Reply #282 - Posted 2010-10-12 19:52:33 »

The out.log and err.log files are found in ~/.Revenge of the Titans 1.6

Cas Smiley

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« Reply #283 - Posted 2010-10-13 17:54:18 »

The out.log and err.log files are found in ~/.Revenge of the Titans 1.6

Cas Smiley

Cheesy No comments.. I just began using Ubuntu  persecutioncomplex
I could not post the contents here, so I uploaded to my webserver.

Here they are:
http://www.javadaemon.com/err.log
http://www.javadaemon.com/out.log

Offline princec

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« Reply #284 - Posted 2010-10-13 19:20:55 »

Well, it claims to be running in fullscreen mode at 1440x900. Is that not the case? If it's still in a window, then you're probably running some odd desktop magic like compiz. Which LWJGL doesn't like.

Cas Smiley

Offline Mads

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« Reply #285 - Posted 2010-10-13 19:43:48 »

Well, it claims to be running in fullscreen mode at 1440x900. Is that not the case? If it's still in a window, then you're probably running some odd desktop magic like compiz. Which LWJGL doesn't like.

Cas Smiley

It is fullscreen, but not 1440x900 Smiley I do run compiz, but I can not turn it off without losing a lot of my desktop functionality.
I will try it later with minimal effects on my desktop though.  Roll Eyes

Offline princec

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« Reply #286 - Posted 2010-10-13 19:44:45 »

Well, try disabling it completely and testing it.

Cas Smiley

Offline Mads

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« Reply #287 - Posted 2010-10-14 09:58:18 »

I tried now with Visual Effects set to None. It worked! Cheesy
This game is great  Kiss

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« Reply #288 - Posted 2010-10-27 21:49:19 »

I downloaded and tried the demo yesterday and completed the earth/moon levels.

My initial thoughts:

Nicely polished game.  Looks good, sounds good.

Very frustrating when trying to place something in a crowded location.  Don't know if it will fit but sometimes it looks like it should but the space seems to be a pixel too thin.

Research trees are confusing.  It's not quite apparent what nuclear research will do, or efficiency, etc.  I played the first 20 levels without any sensor sweep technology cause I couldn't afford it and thus didn't know about it.  Dang, that could have been quite useful to know about!

Researching is expensive.  While I can survive a new level I often find that I'm just short of affording an upgrade.  So I play the next level, survive by the skin of my teeth, and then find myself just short again.  Grr.

One thing I liked about Tower Defence was that I had the feeling that I was progressing and becoming more and more powerful each wave.  In RotT I don't get that feeling.  Instead I feel like I'm falling farther and farther behind as I pass each level because I cannot afford the upgrades and all I have to show for it is roughly the same amount of money as before.

Conversely if I buy an upgrade I wonder if I did the right thing.  If I have the wrong technology and combined with the fact I have less money for next round I feel like I'm being punished for making the wrong choice.

Confusing to know what context you're in when clicking something.  If I select a blaster and I'm trying to place one and then I notice that I need to reload or collect clicking doesn't do anything until I press <esc> or exit place blaster mode.

It's annoying not being able to know which way the titans will go or have some way of re-routing them.  Sometimes I place an item and it's nowhere near in range.

I'd like to see health bars on all titans once they're damaged.

Overall a pretty interesting game.  However for me personally, it seems be lacking in the fun factor and satisfaction of progression that can be found in simpler games.
Offline dishmoth
« Reply #289 - Posted 2010-10-30 11:55:52 »

I'm surprised I haven't seen the Puppy Games Ultrabundle mentioned here yet.

That's a pretty insane price drop!  I started giggling when I realized you're asking for a fiver in US money -- just 3.72 of Her Majesty's pounds.  I spent more yesterday on a sandwich!

Offline princec

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« Reply #290 - Posted 2010-10-30 13:26:46 »

We basically wanted to choose a price that is just plain nonsense. There is no feasible reason not to buy it, unless you just plain don't like a single one of our games at all.

Cas Smiley

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« Reply #291 - Posted 2010-10-30 16:21:02 »

Light the fire, and stand back! Grin

:edit:

Meh, the admins of hotukdeals pulled it from their site because apparently puppygames.net contains no contact info.

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Offline Mads

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« Reply #292 - Posted 2010-10-31 16:33:01 »

I want that ultra-bundle. How long does the offer stand?  Cheesy

Offline princec

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« Reply #293 - Posted 2010-10-31 16:52:55 »

Hm, I suppose there's no harm in putting our UK registered company details on the site.

@Mads - who knows? Cheesy Maybe forever.... maybe not Smiley We'll just have to see how much money it brings in. But let's be realistic here - the only way it can go from there is up, really Wink

Cas Smiley

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« Reply #294 - Posted 2010-10-31 17:12:39 »

Sold!

Offline Mads

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« Reply #295 - Posted 2010-11-01 09:33:06 »

Hm, I suppose there's no harm in putting our UK registered company details on the site.

@Mads - who knows? Cheesy Maybe forever.... maybe not Smiley We'll just have to see how much money it brings in. But let's be realistic here - the only way it can go from there is up, really Wink

Cas Smiley

Definately also sold!  Cheesy Let's see if I buy it before the end of the week.

Offline princec

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« Reply #296 - Posted 2010-11-01 11:06:53 »

Well, here's some interesting statistics, now sales have died down to the usual trickle:

We sold 339 Ultrabundles for Linux, 355 Ultrabundles for Windows, and just 94 Ultrabundles for Mac. Linux being neck-and-neck with windows is interesting and curious - basically it would seem that Linux users are tightwads and need to be presented with a complete bargain. However, I received about 60 support emails concerning curiosities about Linux (one of which was my fault technically, but which passed just fine on OpenJDK and failed on Oracle). The amount of support from Linux is pretty disproportionate, and indeed, if this were a business (which it is - hah!) and I had to employ someone to take care of the support, we'd literally not have made a penny on Linux sales because of the myriad little hassles that Webstart and Java have.

Most of the rest of the failures and hassles were caused by LWJGL being incompatible with Compiz, or the complete failure of desktop icon integration to work. Grr.

Mac users seem to be in massive decline suddenly as well - other indie devs across the board have noted Mac sales have slumped right down.

So once again, Windows is king.

All in all we made $2872 from the Ultrabundle. As you can see the payment provider swallowed a grand. I think I might have to contact them and see if we can cut a deal on it.

Cas Smiley

Offline delt0r

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« Reply #297 - Posted 2010-11-01 11:36:27 »

Just a really simple question/suggestion (perhaps I am just blind and can't find it on your web site). I can't seem to find a non-jws/applet option.

Seriously. I hate those things, is there a "stand alone" option or even a jar option?  I really don't want to use webstart or applets, just like i don't want to play flash games... But if I can download them........

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Offline princec

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« Reply #298 - Posted 2010-11-01 11:49:48 »

It's on the to-do list. But I have absolutely no idea how to make Linux installers. Made more complex by the fact I've got to account for a whole load of different flavours. Maybe I should just go with .deb, Gnome, and 32 and 64 bit variants and let people figure out the rest.

Anybody any ideas how to go about a proper first-class linux installation? Hopefully something that can run automatically on Ant.... under windows?

Cas Smiley

Offline delt0r

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« Reply #299 - Posted 2010-11-01 12:04:54 »

IMO you need at least one (only one!) should just be a unpack able archive (tar.bz2 or whatever). The way i do it right now for mac and Linux is just a zip archive with a bash launch script +JRE.  The ability to install/run it locally without forking with package managers (which need root) is a must. Its a game after all, you shouldn't need to use root for *anything* for it if you don't want to and it should be so silly as to install in /usr/.... etc or whatever if i don't want it to be. Quake/ET etc use a self extracting archive with instructions.

I really don't understand the complications made with installing software via installers. Unpack, cd, run. How much easier can it be?

Any linux person worth his/her salt can link/install globally as required. (my launch scripts permit soft linking  from anywhere). 

KDE/Gnome integration is something i just don't care about. However I realize some others may(why then are you on linux i may ask Wink). My mac users just drag the launch script to the launcher or whatever its called and are all happy.   

However i *do* realize that Linux is an install/support nightmare. One solution is to support one base distro. That should be ubuntu, even though that would be bad for me, its the logical choice. 

but seriously. What it wrong unpack and play?

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