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Offline elias4444

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« Posted 2010-02-03 18:14:30 »

Well, this isn't a good sign for Java game developers with the Oracle takeover:

http://www.projectdarkstar.com/forum/?topic=1540.msg10397#msg10397

Offline VeaR

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« Reply #1 - Posted 2010-02-03 19:13:52 »

Now, i don't understand the reason behind this. This is a server software, kind of distributed system, middleware, with its own persistency solution.  Okay, Oracle surely doesn't use it, but i can imagine, how this could be used.  Okay, not exactly a business application server Oracle would want for itself, but the closest thing one would call a game application server. This decision of Oracle makes me wonder, is the open source JDK, and full independence of it from former Sun/now Oracle is the future of Java?
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« Reply #2 - Posted 2010-02-03 19:19:18 »

Project Darkstar was doomed as soon as its main developer (Jeff) left and that was a while back. Better to let the project officially be killed then to let it be with no updates, it just ends up frustrating developers and noobs.

IMO this is just some house cleaning by Oracle rather then killing a thriving project.
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Offline TheAnalogKid

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« Reply #3 - Posted 2010-02-03 20:30:46 »

Sad news. Let's hope JGO is not in Oracle's black list.

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« Reply #4 - Posted 2010-02-03 22:21:34 »

JGO is run by Chris, not Sun. If he needs to move servers, I'm sure we could accomodate the expense.

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« Reply #5 - Posted 2010-02-03 22:34:21 »

But I think the servers are Sun's assets.

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« Reply #6 - Posted 2010-02-03 23:26:30 »

Er, precisely. So if he needs to move to another server...

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Offline adon_y_coya

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« Reply #7 - Posted 2010-02-04 07:37:05 »

It seems Jeff won't let it die:

http://www.projectdarkstar.com/forum/?topic=1544.msg10441

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« Reply #8 - Posted 2010-02-04 10:24:14 »

Great to see Jeff still passionate about it  Smiley

Offline kaffiene
« Reply #9 - Posted 2010-02-04 22:36:38 »

Hmmm... There's a post there by ChrisM saying that there's actually been no announcement by Oracle yet and Jeff's jumping the gun
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« Reply #10 - Posted 2010-02-22 09:45:07 »

Project Darkstar was doomed as soon as its main developer (Jeff) left and that was a while back. Better to let the project officially be killed then to let it be with no updates, it just ends up frustrating developers and noobs.

IMO this is just some house cleaning by Oracle rather then killing a thriving project.

I know I'm resurrecting an old thread but I just got around to catching up on these forums.

PDS was not dead at all at Sun. They had 6 people working full time on it, were releasing regular new versions, and were extremely close to getting multi node working. I'm sure Oracle have their own reasons to cancel it but the most likely is simply the combination that it's open source & research, which always makes bean-counters nervous.

We've created a community fork of the project called RedDwarf Server at http://www.RedDwarfServer.org and have several of the Sun team members, Jeff, and a number of community people on board. The first release of RedDwarf contains nothing new from PDS but we are working on the next release now which will have some new functionality and a number of bugfixes.

Offline zammbi

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« Reply #11 - Posted 2010-02-23 04:10:18 »

Wow really said to hear. I hope it continues to get updated, but I fear without official support it isn't going to shine as much.
I did hope to port PWO server over from C++ and use PDS and I guess I still do, so I'll be still watching the project.

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Offline lhkbob

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« Reply #12 - Posted 2010-02-26 00:26:41 »

... I hope it continues to get updated, but I fear without official support it isn't going to shine as much ...
I personally don't use PDS but I've heard these sentiments expressed with regard to JOGL.  IMO with projects that have dedicated people working on it, I think we should trust in them and give them all the encouragement we can.

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« Reply #13 - Posted 2010-02-26 02:37:38 »

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IMO with projects that have dedicated people working on it, I think we should trust in them and give them all the encouragement we can.
Yeah I agree.

On Red Dwarf site the should have ads and a donation button to help their efforts.

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