Java Applets now supported on Kongregate!

[kappa]

*BREAKING NEWS*

Kongregate will now support Java Applets, Unity, Silverlight, etc

This is probably one of the first major sites that has masses of traffic to support Java Applets.

They also do ad sharing, like GameJolt and Games4J, so now there might actually be a chance of making some decent money with a nice java applet.

more info in the link below.

http://www.farseergames.com/blog/2009/12/16/kongregate-opens-itrsquos-portal-to-silverlight-unity-and-ot.html

[appel]

Pretty neat.

Will be fun to see the reaction of people when they discover that THEY'RE RUNNING A JAVA GAME!

[pjt33]

Oo. Very promising.

Games published by our own members! Check 'em out!

[kappa]

Pretty neat.

Will be fun to see the reaction of people when they discover that THEY'RE RUNNING A JAVA GAME!

yeh, well hopefully the first batch of java games on there are of a decent quality and stability. Would be a shame if Kongregates first impression of java games is that they crash and burn all the computers they run on.

[Xyle]

Ahhhh, this is very good news indeed!

Hopefully this will be a future trend and more portals and game sites will follow suit.

Thanks for the post!

[trembovetski]

Now, now, calm down. The post says they support JavaFX games, not Java =)

[Eli Delventhal]

Now, now, calm down. The post says they support JavaFX games, not Java =)

Oh god. Really? Pain.

[CommanderKeith]

Lol, I think he's teasing.

There's no difference between javafx and java in terms of distribution i believe. JavaFX stilll generates jars which are used in applets or webstart: http://javafx.com/docs/tutorials/deployment/configure-for-deploy.jsp

That's sensational about Kongregate! Has anyone tried submitting something yet? My stuff isn't good enough I'm afraid  (not yet anyway! )

[h3ckboy]

Oh god. Really? Pain.

JavaFX games and actually any games that can be hosted on a website

I think the guy only mentioned javaFX because in the mind of people who havent used it yet, it is better than regular java??

[pjt33]

Now, now, calm down. The post says they support JavaFX games, not Java =)

I read it as saying that they support anything you can put in an iframe.

Games published by our own members! Check 'em out!

[kevglass]

Seriously, who's going to write any games in Java FX ?

(if he can tease, so can I)

Kev

[princec]

Who cares I've got 3 LWJGL applets ready to roll majestically over the coastlines of Africa and carve some lovely fjords.

Cas

[h3ckboy]

yeah, but remember we have to only put good games(by that i mean polished) because we dont want to give java an even worse name....


P.S: yes I am including myself

[gouessej]

What about games using Java Web Start and/or IzPack? I won't submit TUER as it is far from being polished.

[indexunknown]

if anyone still hasn't looked up then it's about games that can be put on a web page so they can include it in their iframe.

[Markus_Persson]

I'm trying it. =)
I'll let you know how it works out.

I wonder what their policy on signed applets is. I'd be interesting to have a free version of minecraft on there.

[kappa]

I'm trying it. =)
I'll let you know how it works out.

I wonder what their policy on signed applets is. I'd be interesting to have a free version of minecraft on there.

ah awesome look forward to hearing how it goes.

p.s. don't forget to include something like the html code below inside the applet tag to provide a user experience on par with the silverlight article in the first post.

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<br/>You need Java installed to play this game. <br> You may use the button below to get it.<br/><br/>     <a href="http://java.com/download" onclick="window.open( this.href ); return false">     <img src="http://java.com/en/img/everywhere/getjava_lg.gif" alt="Get Java" style="border-style: none">     </a>

[trembovetski]

ah awesome look forward to hearing how it goes.

p.s. don't forget to include something like the html code below inside the applet tag to provide a user experience on par with the silverlight article in the first post.

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<br/>You need Java installed to play this game. <br> You may use the button below to get it.<br/><br/>     <a href="http://java.com/download" onclick="window.open( this.href ); return false">     <img src="http://java.com/en/img/everywhere/getjava_lg.gif" alt="Get Java" style="border-style: none">     </a>

You might want to look at the Java Deployment Toolkit, which is supposed to provide the functionality for detecting and installing java:
 http://java.sun.com/javase/6/docs/technotes/guides/jweb/deployment_advice.html

Dmitri

[kappa]

You might want to look at the Java Deployment Toolkit, which is supposed to provide the functionality for detecting and installing java:
 http://java.sun.com/javase/6/docs/technotes/guides/jweb/deployment_advice.html

Dmitri

yeh that's a useful script especially for detecting java versions, but its just not as elegant or fully necessary for people without java. The silverlight page or the html snippet above just show a nice button which quickly points to where they can get silverlight/java, its simple and doesn't require javascript.

[Markus_Persson]

yeah, I'd prefer just a simple link as well.

I'd rather put it in the instructions text than use up game space, though. Do people ever read those?

[kaffiene]

Are there any issues with signing jars?  Can you use JLWGL, JOGL et al?

[trembovetski]

yeh that's a useful script especially for detecting java versions, but its just not as elegant or fully necessary for people without java. The silverlight page or the html snippet above just show a nice button which quickly points to where they can get silverlight/java, its simple and doesn't require javascript.

The problem is that it's not very easy to detect when java isn't there or when the java version isn't sufficient for your app. So you could copy the code from the DT into your own script, and in case of an error do whatever you think should be done (redirect to java.com or whatever).

One thing that DT does is that in some cases it could initiate "upgrade in place" (without leaving the page) if the installed java isn't too old and needs to be upgraded to a more recent one. But that logic could to be copied.

BTW, I think there's been an improved version of java detection script somewhere on jgo (Sun's version has bugs).

Dmitri

[Markus_Persson]

And, no. They don't support java.

At this time I don't think we've seen a compelling reason to bring
Java in to the mix, and I'm not aware of any plans to change that.
We're looking more heavily at Silverlight and Unity at this time, but
Java is not in the talks currently - at least not in a broad sense.

Silverlight? Seriously?

[appel]

And, no. They don't support java.

Silverlight? Seriously?

So, anything but Java! 

[princec]

I think perhaps ChrisM might want to get involved at this point and show them the error of their ways.

Cas

[kappa]

And, no. They don't support java.

btw just curious, what did you submit to them? maybe it blew up

applets before the new plugin2 (before java 1.6.0.10) were actually really bad, prune to crashing (with the browser and even sometimes the computer), caused massive slowdown and freezes. They left a bad impression for many people, and is most likely the reason kongregate never want to use them again. Gonna be pretty hard to convince people who have been bitten by the applets in the past that applets are all good now. Many java programmers still avoid them for this very reason.

[Markus_Persson]

Minecraft and The Europa Arcology Incident

[kappa]

Minecraft and The Europa Arcology Incident

should have submitted Breaking the Tower, still one of my favorite games

but yeh unlikely to have been what you submitted that caused the rejection.

[Swattkidd7]

I think perhaps ChrisM might want to get involved at this point and show them the error of their ways.

Cas

Yea seriously, what is going on here...Silverlight over Java?! Please ChrisM help us out, there seems to be something seriously wrong with peoples perception of Java..

Maybe we can create a webpage with all of the Featured games in applets, all working and show it to them. Maybe that would be a compelling reason to look at Java. Although if Minecraft wasnt, idk if anything will work.

[gouessej]

And, no. They don't support java.

I'm disappointed  It is still hardly possible to live from Java games programming. I had planned to develop an applet especially for Kongregate (a kind of GTA-like, I had already begun coding), now this project will go directly into the trash bin 

What can we do to encourage Kongregate to accept applets? Minecraft is excellent, they should have given it a try, I sent them a message to protest once again.

Could we organize a collective action to denounce such an unfair decision? Otherwise, what do you suggest?