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« Reply #30 - Posted 2009-12-12 15:05:38 »

 Shocked

Vancouver Olympics Chooses JavaFX

http://fxexperience.com/2009/12/vancouver-olympics-choses-javafx/
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« Reply #31 - Posted 2009-12-12 15:39:52 »

Took 17 seconds to load.

Animations seem to be 5fps

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« Reply #32 - Posted 2009-12-12 16:42:22 »

this is horrbile!! i have waited for a minute and it's still loading while i write this, do we really have to keep the tradition of Java = slowest thing ever.
..still loading

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« Reply #33 - Posted 2009-12-12 20:26:14 »

For me, it took about 20 seconds to load the first time (including JavaFX desktop install).
Second time, it completely crashed my browser (Firefox on Mac OSX).
Third time, comes up in half a second.
Third + Nth time: comes up in half a second.

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« Reply #34 - Posted 2009-12-12 22:55:18 »

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Exception in thread "AWT-EventQueue-5" java.lang.Error: Couldn't launch FX Stage com.effectiveui.snow.Main
   at com.sun.javafx.runtime.adapter.AppletStartupRoutine.run(Unknown Source)
   at com.sun.javafx.tk.swing.SwingToolkit$StartupRoutine.run(Unknown Source)
   at java.awt.event.InvocationEvent.dispatch(Unknown Source)
   at java.awt.EventQueue.dispatchEvent(Unknown Source)
   at java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpOneEventForFilters(Unknown Source)
   at java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpEventsForFilter(Unknown Source)
   at java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpEventsForHierarchy(Unknown Source)
   at java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpEvents(Unknown Source)
   at java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpEvents(Unknown Source)
   at java.awt.EventDispatchThread.run(Unknown Source)
Caused by: java.lang.NoSuchMethodError: com.sun.javafx.runtime.location.ObjectVariable.makeWithDefault(Ljava/lang/Object;Ljava/lang/Object;)Lcom/sun/javafx/runtime/location/ObjectVariable;
   at com.effectiveui.snow.model.ModelLocator.loc$filterValue(ModelLocator.fx:46)
   at com.effectiveui.snow.ControlPane.applyDefaults$(ControlPane.fx:55)
   at com.sun.javafx.runtime.FXBase.applyDefaults$(Unknown Source)
   at com.effectiveui.snow.ControlPane.initialize$(ControlPane.fx:37)
   at com.effectiveui.snow.ControlPane.<init>(ControlPane.fx:37)
   at com.effectiveui.snow.Main.javafx$run$(Main.fx:100)
   at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke0(Native Method)
   at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(Unknown Source)
   at sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(Unknown Source)
   at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Unknown Source)
   ... 10 more

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« Reply #35 - Posted 2009-12-13 01:30:02 »

Total rubbish, didn't work.

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« Reply #36 - Posted 2009-12-13 02:42:43 »

This worked pretty good for me, very fast loading, even on first time. I'm on Win7, JRE 6u18 (didn't have to install JavaFX). Animation feels slow as Riven mentioned, not 5 fps slow, but not as smooth as I'd expect. Anyway, I'd say it gave me a positive impression if it weren't for the crappy font rendering, no sub-pixel antialiasing and the wheel text flickers when animated. Not sure if it's JavaFX or the app's developer to blame.
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« Reply #37 - Posted 2009-12-13 03:05:21 »

Not sure if it's JavaFX or the app's developer to blame.

The developer should have never used JavaFX. Even a HelloWorld app takes ~15sec to load. Every dev taking his website seriously should steer clear of JavaFX until it loads faster.

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« Reply #38 - Posted 2009-12-13 03:34:52 »

Found a few bugs in the app.  Grin

When doing a comparison between countries' medal totals, you can click on the country you are comparing with to make it the focus of the comparison.
However if you click multiple times in quick succession, the diagram it creates for the new country will have duplicates in it's comparison branches.

The problem is compounded by the fact JavaFX considers all mouse buttons to be equivalent - so if you triple click all 3 mouse buttons simultaneously, you will end up with 9 copies of each comparison branch in the new diagram =)
See attached image.

:edit:

Seems this isn't the only place that causes the application to malfunction if you rapidly click (or click multiple mouse buttons simultaneously).
When you are initially selecting a country, if you click all 3 mouse buttons rather than just 1 to select a country, the 'flag zoom' effect will occur multiple times - only the first of which can be closed.
The other(s) will be left sitting in the centre of the window occluding a portion of the map.

:edit2:

Oh dear, refresh the page a few times and BOOM!, grey window.
100% repeatable; refresh the page 5 times and it fails to launch due to OOM.
You can see the memory usage of the Java.exe process increase each time =/
Shouldn't memory leaks persisting between restarts of JavaFX be impossible? unless the JavaFX engine itself isn't auto-disposing of everything it should be?

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Exception in thread "AWT-EventQueue-25" java.lang.Error: Couldn't launch FX Stage com.effectiveui.snow.Main
   at com.sun.javafx.runtime.adapter.AppletStartupRoutine.run(Unknown Source)
   at com.sun.javafx.tk.swing.SwingToolkit$StartupRoutine.run(Unknown Source)
   at java.awt.event.InvocationEvent.dispatch(Unknown Source)
   at java.awt.EventQueue.dispatchEvent(Unknown Source)
   at java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpOneEventForFilters(Unknown Source)
   at java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpEventsForFilter(Unknown Source)
   at java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpEventsForHierarchy(Unknown Source)
   at java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpEvents(Unknown Source)
   at java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpEvents(Unknown Source)
   at java.awt.EventDispatchThread.run(Unknown Source)
Caused by: java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: com/sun/javafx/geom/Rectangle2D
   at com.sun.scenario.scenegraph.SGShape.computeBounds(Unknown Source)
   at com.sun.scenario.scenegraph.SGNode.updateBounds(Unknown Source)
   at com.sun.scenario.scenegraph.SGNode.getContentBounds(Unknown Source)
   at com.sun.scenario.scenegraph.SGNode.getClippedBounds(Unknown Source)
   at com.sun.scenario.scenegraph.SGNode.updateTxBounds(Unknown Source)
   at com.sun.scenario.scenegraph.SGNode.getCompleteBounds(Unknown Source)
   at com.sun.javafx.sg.GroupBoundsHelper.recomputeBounds(Unknown Source)
   at com.sun.javafx.sg.GroupBoundsHelper.getContentBounds(Unknown Source)
   at com.sun.scenario.scenegraph.SGGroup.computeBounds(Unknown Source)
   at com.sun.scenario.scenegraph.SGNode.updateBounds(Unknown Source)
   at com.sun.scenario.scenegraph.SGNode.getContentBounds(Unknown Source)
   at com.sun.scenario.scenegraph.SGNode.getClippedBounds(Unknown Source)
   at com.sun.scenario.scenegraph.SGNode.updateTxBounds(Unknown Source)
   at com.sun.scenario.scenegraph.SGNode.getCompleteBounds(Unknown Source)
   at com.sun.javafx.sg.GroupBoundsHelper.recomputeBounds(Unknown Source)
   at com.sun.javafx.sg.GroupBoundsHelper.getContentBounds(Unknown Source)
   at com.sun.scenario.scenegraph.SGGroup.computeBounds(Unknown Source)
   at com.sun.scenario.scenegraph.SGNode.updateBounds(Unknown Source)
   at com.sun.scenario.scenegraph.SGNode.getContentBounds(Unknown Source)
   at javafx.scene.Node.computeBounds(Unknown Source)
   at javafx.scene.Node$_SBECL.compute(Unknown Source)
   at com.sun.javafx.runtime.location.AbstractVariable.update(Unknown Source)
   at com.sun.javafx.runtime.location.AbstractVariable.ensureValid(Unknown Source)
   at com.sun.javafx.runtime.location.ObjectVariable.get(Unknown Source)
   at com.sun.javafx.runtime.location.ObjectVariable$1.compute(Unknown Source)
   at com.sun.javafx.runtime.location.AbstractVariable.update(Unknown Source)
   at com.sun.javafx.runtime.location.AbstractVariable.ensureValid(Unknown Source)
   at com.sun.javafx.runtime.location.ObjectVariable.get(Unknown Source)
   at javafx.scene.Node.get$layoutBounds(Unknown Source)
   at javafx.scene.layout.Container.getPrefWidth(Unknown Source)
   at javafx.scene.layout.Container.initSize(Unknown Source)
   at javafx.scene.layout.Container.postInit$(Unknown Source)
   at com.sun.javafx.runtime.FXBase.complete$(Unknown Source)
   at com.effectiveui.snow.FilterPane.userInit$(FilterPane.fx:23)
   at com.sun.javafx.runtime.FXBase.complete$(Unknown Source)
   at com.effectiveui.snow.Main.javafx$run$(Main.fx:111)
   at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke0(Native Method)
   at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(Unknown Source)
   at sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(Unknown Source)
   at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Unknown Source)
   ... 10 more
Caused by: java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: com.sun.javafx.geom.Rectangle2D
   at sun.plugin2.applet.Plugin2ClassLoader$2.run(Unknown Source)
   at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method)
   at sun.plugin2.applet.Plugin2ClassLoader.findClassHelper(Unknown Source)
   at sun.plugin2.applet.JNLP2ClassLoader.findClass(Unknown Source)
   at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(Unknown Source)
   at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(Unknown Source)
   at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClassInternal(Unknown Source)
   ... 50 more
Caused by: java.lang.RuntimeException: java.lang.reflect.InvocationTargetException
   at sun.plugin2.applet.Plugin2ClassLoader.defineClassHelper(Unknown Source)
   at sun.plugin2.applet.Plugin2ClassLoader.access$400(Unknown Source)
   ... 57 more
Caused by: java.lang.reflect.InvocationTargetException
   at sun.reflect.GeneratedMethodAccessor1.invoke(Unknown Source)
   at sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(Unknown Source)
   at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Unknown Source)
   ... 59 more
Caused by: java.lang.OutOfMemoryError: Java heap space
   at com.sun.deploy.cache.CacheEntry$10.run(Unknown Source)
   at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method)
   at com.sun.deploy.cache.CacheEntry.readManifest(Unknown Source)
   at com.sun.deploy.cache.CacheEntry.getManifest(Unknown Source)
   at com.sun.deploy.cache.CachedJarFile.getManifest(Unknown Source)
   at sun.misc.URLClassPath$JarLoader$2.getManifest(Unknown Source)
   at sun.plugin2.applet.Plugin2ClassLoader$WrapResource.getManifest(Unknown Source)
   at java.net.URLClassLoader.defineClass(Unknown Source)
   at sun.reflect.GeneratedMethodAccessor1.invoke(Unknown Source)
   at sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(Unknown Source)
   at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Unknown Source)
   at sun.plugin2.applet.Plugin2ClassLoader.defineClassHelper(Unknown Source)
   at sun.plugin2.applet.Plugin2ClassLoader.access$400(Unknown Source)
   at sun.plugin2.applet.Plugin2ClassLoader$2.run(Unknown Source)
   at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method)
   at sun.plugin2.applet.Plugin2ClassLoader.findClassHelper(Unknown Source)
   at sun.plugin2.applet.JNLP2ClassLoader.findClass(Unknown Source)
   at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(Unknown Source)
   at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(Unknown Source)
   at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClassInternal(Unknown Source)
   at com.sun.scenario.scenegraph.SGShape.computeBounds(Unknown Source)
   at com.sun.scenario.scenegraph.SGNode.updateBounds(Unknown Source)
   at com.sun.scenario.scenegraph.SGNode.getContentBounds(Unknown Source)
   at com.sun.scenario.scenegraph.SGNode.getClippedBounds(Unknown Source)
   at com.sun.scenario.scenegraph.SGNode.updateTxBounds(Unknown Source)
   at com.sun.scenario.scenegraph.SGNode.getCompleteBounds(Unknown Source)
   at com.sun.javafx.sg.GroupBoundsHelper.recomputeBounds(Unknown Source)
   at com.sun.javafx.sg.GroupBoundsHelper.getContentBounds(Unknown Source)
   at com.sun.scenario.scenegraph.SGGroup.computeBounds(Unknown Source)
   at com.sun.scenario.scenegraph.SGNode.updateBounds(Unknown Source)
   at com.sun.scenario.scenegraph.SGNode.getContentBounds(Unknown Source)
   at com.sun.scenario.scenegraph.SGNode.getClippedBounds(Unknown Source)


:edit3:

Rapidly click the 'reset view' button (top left), about 30-40 times.
java.exe process will now be locked at 100% cpu usage (of 1 core), ~112mb allocated, and the applet will have stopped responding.
Wait a few minutes,  cpu usage drops to 0%, allocated memory doesn't change - applet still not responding.

:edit4:

When transitioning to the 'compare countries diagram screen' a slide transition plays; if during this transition you click a new year in the top bar, the transition will terminate and the window will be left completely blank!


This thing is extremely flakey; 4 different bugs, 2 of them crash bugs found in 15 minutes of messing around.

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« Reply #39 - Posted 2009-12-13 04:57:06 »

Pretty slick. Ran very well on my Windows 7 pc, except for, of course, the start-up time. I hope Prism helps that out. I don't think though the Olympics people think this app will have very many hits. 
1:They are using the regular JavaFX loading logo.
2:The app says powered by JavaFX.HuhHuh What in the world is up with that. I quietly wonder if Sun paid them to do this, so someone besides Indaba would use FX.

But, I'd say it is one of the better JavaFX apps I've seen. Plus, no signatures to clear!! Maybe Sun will get the idea for their own site.

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« Reply #40 - Posted 2009-12-13 05:02:47 »

Plus, no signatures to clear!!

Well, you probably have granted Sun's certificate. I had to [accept] it as usual.

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« Reply #41 - Posted 2009-12-13 08:38:10 »

it took like 30 seconds to load....
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« Reply #42 - Posted 2009-12-13 14:38:34 »

Well, you probably have granted Sun's certificate. I had to [accept] it as usual.

Ah, ok.

I will scratch though what I said about Vancouver not too serious about this app. Apparently the entire Vancouver RIA platform is based on JavaFX.
http://www.vancouver2010.com/more-2010-information/about-vanoc/sponsors-and-partners/vancouver-2010-sponsors/official-suppliers/

I wonder if this means that Sun will release JavaFX 1.3 soon. I can't see the Olympics choosing an immature platform like JavaFX to power their client apps. Not that 1.3 is going to instantly mature JavaFX, but it, I hope, will make JavaFX better.

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« Reply #43 - Posted 2009-12-13 15:21:42 »

I wonder if this means that Sun will release JavaFX 1.3 soon. I can't see the Olympics choosing an immature platform like JavaFX to power their client apps. Not that 1.3 is going to instantly mature JavaFX, but it, I hope, will make JavaFX better.

No matter what Sun releases, it takes roughly 5 years to have a serious penetration.

The developer(s) that did this should be fired, even if it worked flawlessly.

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« Reply #44 - Posted 2009-12-13 15:57:07 »

It should work like this: I click on the page. The Olympics splash should be right there in my tab, with a loading bar, before I even get to see the word Java. Which I should never see. Then it should not crash.

Unfortunately, on two browsers with 6u17 running, I got a lengthy Java loading animation. One of them never finished; the other one did, but then vanished leaving a blank space, and that was all it ever did. It seems no-one else has had a good experience either.

How is it possible that Flash can do this so easily, so rightly, and Java can't? And which fool decided it was a good idea to use it for this website?

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« Reply #45 - Posted 2009-12-13 16:06:09 »

It should work like this: I click on the page. The Olympics splash should be right there in my tab, with a loading bar, before I even get to see the word Java. Which I should never see. Then it should not crash.

Unfortunately, on two browsers with 6u17 running, I got a lengthy Java loading animation. One of them never finished; the other one did, but then vanished leaving a blank space, and that was all it ever did. It seems no-one else has had a good experience either.

How is it possible that Flash can do this so easily, so rightly, and Java can't? And which fool decided it was a good idea to use it for this website?

Cas Smiley

We just have to accept that Sun engineers can't do clientside stuff (including URLConnection which is probably at the root of MOST clientside tech bugs (applets,webstart).

To Sun: do a complete rewrite of URLConnection, make it 1 thread per connection, only support HTTP/1.0, and disable caching. Why? Because then it might actually work.

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« Reply #46 - Posted 2009-12-13 18:31:37 »

How is it possible that Flash can do this so easily, so rightly, and Java can't?

Really. After all these years of Java, the client side still sucks. At least though, Sun is doing something about it. JavaFX is only a year old.

As a side note, this app probably ran very well for me because my installation of Win7 is clean and brand new; and my pc is packed with top hardware. (I wouldn't program on anything else)

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And which fool decided it was a good idea to use it for this website?

I'm just throwing this out there, but I wonder if the Olympics are seen as a venue for new RIA platforms. The Bejing Olympics were powered by Silverlight, and now the Vancouver Games will be powered be JavaFX.
http://www.silverlightshow.net/news/Silverlight-will-power-2008-Beijing-Olympics.aspx

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« Reply #47 - Posted 2009-12-14 02:34:55 »

This worked pretty good for me, very fast loading, even on first time. I'm on Win7, JRE 6u18 (didn't have to install JavaFX). Animation feels slow as Riven mentioned, not 5 fps slow, but not as smooth as I'd expect. Anyway, I'd say it gave me a positive impression if it weren't for the crappy font rendering, no sub-pixel antialiasing and the wheel text flickers when animated. Not sure if it's JavaFX or the app's developer to blame.

The "slow" animation is application developer's (or designers) choice. They have timelines for 2 seconds for every animation, despite ours begging them to change that.
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« Reply #48 - Posted 2009-12-14 11:00:04 »

When I finally got it running it wasn't any worse than mostly anything I'd seen in Flash. It's just that anything I've seen in Flash has loaded 100% of the time, instantly, in all browsers, for years.

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« Reply #49 - Posted 2009-12-14 16:46:33 »

After looking at it I find myself thinking:

Why didn't they use Flash?
 Huh

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« Reply #50 - Posted 2009-12-14 20:18:32 »

Folks, if you encounter issues with launching the applet, please post your OS, browser and java version (and output from java console if you have one). The deployment team is very interested in resolving these issues.

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« Reply #51 - Posted 2009-12-14 20:26:41 »

fails and burns here on linux 64, think javafx doesn't support the OS but a decent error would be nice.
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« Reply #52 - Posted 2009-12-15 05:09:55 »

fails and burns here on linux 64, think javafx doesn't support the OS but a decent error would be nice.

No, there is no support for 64bit. I messed around with 64bit Ubuntu for awhile, trying to get JavaFX to work on it.

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« Reply #53 - Posted 2009-12-15 07:03:35 »

No, there is no support for 64bit. I messed around with 64bit Ubuntu for awhile, trying to get JavaFX to work on it.
That's strange. JavaFX works out of the box for me on 64-bit Ubuntu.
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« Reply #54 - Posted 2009-12-15 21:11:04 »

works fine here on a dual core T5750 with a decent graphic card ATI HD 3650, VISTA - Java-1.6-18b, would be a shame it was not, 20/25 s to start.

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But, I'd say it is one of the better JavaFX apps I've seen.

and that's the problem Smiley

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« Reply #55 - Posted 2009-12-15 21:33:54 »

When was the last time anyone posted a forum post to say that a Flash game worked on their <list of system specs> machine?

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« Reply #56 - Posted 2010-04-09 03:38:39 »

I realize i'm resurrecting a dead thread, but it appears the JavaFX app. has been pulled from the website! persecutioncomplex
Though oddly the 'Geo View' button on this page of the website still links to it.

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« Reply #57 - Posted 2010-04-10 18:06:44 »

I realize i'm resurrecting a dead thread, but it appears the JavaFX app. has been pulled from the website! persecutioncomplex
Though oddly the 'Geo View' button on this page of the website still links to it.

oups...  this is pretty fun

EDIT : what I get when I click on the tab ... (with the lastest java plugin 1.6-019) after a long loading .... (seems the file really does not exist)
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exception : JNLP file error: http://www.vancouver2010.com/ns/javafx/MedalVisualizer/snowapp_browser.jnlp. Please make sure the file exists and check if "codebase" and "href" in the JNLP file are correct..
java.io.FileNotFoundException: JNLP file error: http://www.vancouver2010.com/ns/javafx/MedalVisualizer/snowapp_browser.jnlp. Please make sure the file exists and check if "codebase" and "href" in the JNLP file are correct.
   at sun.plugin2.applet.JNLP2Manager.loadJarFiles(Unknown Source)
   at sun.plugin2.applet.Plugin2Manager$AppletExecutionRunnable.run(Unknown Source)
   at java.lang.Thread.run(Unknown Source)
Exception : java.io.FileNotFoundException: JNLP file error: http://www.vancouver2010.com/ns/javafx/MedalVisualizer/snowapp_browser.jnlp. Please make sure the file exists and check if "codebase" and "href" in the JNLP file are correct.

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