Reduce Forum Count

[kevglass]

• Collapse JOGL/LWJGL into Java OpenGL
• Collapse Java 3D / Xith / JMonkey into Java 3D Libraries
• Collapse Java Sound / joal into Java Audio
• Rename J2ME to Mobile Games (get an Android forum with no additional work then)
• Community and Volunteer Projects probably sits in Community Works now anyway

On an unrelated note, half the moderators (mojomonkey, cfmdobbie, darkprophet, Jeff, Herkules) don't visit the forum often any more. Not to mention the forums that have no moderators (other than global of course, all hail!) at all.

EDIT: Kappa points out some of that was here. So can we have this aswell.

Kev

[lhkbob]

I second that

[Ranger]

Not sure what Kev means when he says "Collapse", but IMO it would be great if "Collapse" meant that they became Child Boards, like the Contest section has.

So, you wouldn't rename J2ME to Mobile Games, you'd create a Mobile Games section with J2ME and Android as Child Boards.

Games published by our own members! Check 'em out!

[kevglass]

I despise the child boards tbh, too hard to navigate, most of the forums here have little traffic so it might as well be lumped together.

Not to bothered though, just so we can have a bit more diverse postings here. Obviously I've a vested interest in getting some more mobile stuff going.

Kev

[kappa]

i agree there are too many forum sections and JGO needs a clean up.

Kev's suggestion is very logical.

+1

[shatterblast]

I despise the child boards tbh, too hard to navigate, most of the forums here have little traffic so it might as well be lumped together.

I agree with this.  If possible, I think it sufficient to merge two inactive forum sections.

(Quoting myself is crazy.)

[shatterblast]

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[CyanPrime]

Quit changing your name! 

[kevglass]

Who?

Kev

[Mr_Light]

how will this affect linkage(also is the forum still invisible to search engines)?

Games published by our own members! Check 'em out!

[h3ckboy]

Quit changing your name! 

he means

(Quoting myself is crazy.)

[Markus_Persson]

Yes indeedie, I agree. I've suggested this several times. =)

[kevglass]

Can you do this stuff now Markus, with the god like powers?

Kev

[Markus_Persson]

Yes, but people might disagree with me. Since I'm not uberactive on these forums at the moment and the last tiny thing I changed caused massive complaining, I don't really feel comfortable. =)

[kevglass]

Yes, but people might disagree with me. Since I'm not uberactive on these forums at the moment and the last tiny thing I changed caused massive complaining, I don't really feel comfortable. =)

You're probably get in to trouble/complaints for posting that too

Isn't the interweb wonderful?

Kev

[Eli Delventhal]

Yeah, I agree with you guys. I'll try to get on this, and I'm PMing Chris now to see if he can get a script installed for merging forums (as we currently don't have that capability). I'm not particularly interested in moving each topic one-by-one. 

But once I've got that script in here, I'll definitely start collapsing some of these forums. I'll go ahead and remove inactive moderators now.

[kaffiene]

+1

[Eli Delventhal]

Yes, but people might disagree with me. Since I'm not uberactive on these forums at the moment and the last tiny thing I changed caused massive complaining, I don't really feel comfortable. =)

I since decided that I'll do what I think works best and no matter what it is somebody is going to get annoyed, so there's nothing I can do about it. I've even been called "power-hungry" by a few people.  It's just a clear indicator that something is actually being changed, no?

[fletchergames]

I don't really agree with this.  It seems like reducing the number of forums just to have less forums doesn't justify mixing posts about different 3d libraries (and so forth) together.  It's not like having less forums will drastically improve navigating JGO.

Then again, I don't really care.  I've hardly used any of the forums mentioned, so it's not anything that affects me.

[ido]

I agree and would also like to see the number of subforums reduced drastically.

[kevglass]

It's possible we could just bin some forums atm,

JMonkeyEngine - they have their own forums, and there is very little traffic. Additionally it's singling out particular libraries as somehow special when all should hold the same status.

Xith3D - see above but more so because there's even less traffic.

LWJGL + JOGL - are both now open source projects. One single forum Java OpenGL might suffice better. Low traffic in both forums and there are other bindings out there.

JOAL - Java OpenAL, could use it for facets of LWJGL then.

Java 2D - Should probably be 2D Graphics since there are a wealth of 2D java libraries now (including my own)

Java 3D - Should probably be 3D Graphics since there are a wealth of 3D java libraries now.

Probably posted this before, even on the same thread, but the discussion does seem to have died as IDO mentioned.

Kev

[zammbi]

Yeah I agree to this, some of those options don't really need there own forum and therefore can be merged. Well at least for the libraries that is. Android/JavaFX probably be better on there own.

[Alric]

For what it's worth, the only part of the forum I even look at is the Recent Posts box down at the bottom 
Far too many forums with far too little traffic.

[kappa]

+1

[CyanPrime]

+1

[Riven]

-1 forum

[noblemaster]

Merging the forums would make it difficult to impossible to filter out information for JOGL respectively LWJGL. We might as well just remove them altogether? How about reducing the forum count on the top level as suggested, but keeping the existing forums as subforums in the new forums?

[gouessej]

Collapse JOGL/LWJGL into Java OpenGL

Please no. I understand your position, some problems are related to OpenGL rather than a particular binding but as far as I know, LWJGL is more than an OpenGL binding. On my view, merging the both sections is a bad idea.

[kevglass]

Questioning relating to the other parts of LWJGL (sound/input) would belong in the appropriate other collapsed forum. So OpenAL questions (be there JOAL or LWJGL OpenAL) would go into the Java OpenAL forum (since the chances if you know the answer for one, you'll know it for the other). Ditto with input, LWJGL uses JInput so it's questions could go in Java Native Input (rather than a forum specifcially for JInput which gets little traffic).

Kev

[gouessej]

Ok... I don't want to be polemical but some bugs are particular to specific bindings. Anyway, we need a place to discuss about these bugs too without mixing the both.