Minecraft

[zammbi]

Minecraft: Makes children sex slaves and destroys our economy!

http://www.landoverbaptist.net/showthread.php?t=51266
 


Crazy religious people are up to it again...

[Riven]

Well, the first few paragraphs (browse to the first post in that thread..) could actually have been written by some damaged mind, but just take a moment to read these lines:

Minecraft learns children that you can create your own tools by combining ingredients instead of the American way of ordering online of going to Wallmart. It learns children they can farm their own food instead of learning them the American way of going to McDonalds for that. It learns them to waste huge amounts of time on making their own buildings, instead of the way of buying a house with borrowed money! It teaches children to be creative, instead of watching commercials on television! All this clearly damages and ultimately destroys the American economy! It can be no coincidence that this game was created while Obama is in office!

It's so obvious he's joking / trolling.



The replies are worrying though...

Actually, judging from his own replies, he seemed to be serious.

[zammbi]

Actually, judging from his own replies, he seemed to be serious.

I pointed to the wrong page. Look at page 1. The whole thing is serious, it seems people are getting banned from arguing against it.

Games published by our own members! Check 'em out!

[SimonH]

Loool! More publicity! Interestingly there's what looks like a screenshot of the (as yet unrealeased) halloween update - where'd they get that from?

@Riven you didn't post the rest;

I'll skip the obvious flaws in grammar and get straight to the point.
Is the American way REALLY God's way? Didn't Jesus make his own tools? Didn't our forefathers farm their own food instead of going to McDonalds? Don't we build our own buildings? Or did god poof your house to where it is now?? Why can't our children be creative? Because you can't control your children's creativity? Because you're afraid your children are smarter than you are? Because I hope to god for their sake they are. You sir, have a few things to learn. Maybe it's just because I was raised in a southern baptist church and am now a computer science major, but I see NOTHING WRONG with Minecraft.

[Orangy Tang]

You guys know that Landover Baptist is one big parody site, right? 

[bobjob]

You guys know that Landover Baptist is one big parody site, right? 

lol, I was about to say. How the f*** did minecraft get attention from teachers of religeous law.

but then again the FACT!!! still remains that minecraft is not a game, but rather a tech demo, this false advertising should constitute as evil!!!

[zammbi]

You guys know that Landover Baptist is one big parody site, right?

I do now 
Which I'm glad...

[Tobias]

Haha... they are funny. I almost believed it, excellent satire.

When I was a kid growing up in New York every day we kids would play wonderfull games, stick ball, kick the can, hide and seek and my all time favorite catch a nigra and make him wet himself. [...] We grew up OK.

/OT

[ryanm]

The social impact that Minecraft is having is quite astonishing. A member of the rllmuk forums recently passed away, so they're erecting a memorial in their server. Similarly, the server that he usually played on is preserving all his structures.

I've got a lump in my throat as it is, I can only imagine that for Markus seeing a silly game that he threw together be used in such a fashion is profoundly humbling.

Congratulations again Markus, I think Minecraft has just transcended the category of games.

[CommanderKeith]

I'm a tutorial teacher in finance at uni, and I was asking some students in class about what societies they're part of, just out of curiosity.

So one guy is part of EGG (Electronic Game Guild) and apparently they generally play console games. But he said that they now have computers too, because of "some game called minecraft"!!!!!!! Wow, that was weird, internet javagaming forum stuff coming into my reality!

Shows how popluar the game is. This student in my class knew all about markus too, from his paypal account suspension to how he lives in scandinavia! Markus is a celebrity!

Games published by our own members! Check 'em out!

[Eli Delventhal]

I'm a tutorial teacher in finance at uni, and I was asking some students in class about what societies they're part of, just out of curiosity.

So one guy is part of EGG (Electronic Game Guild) and apparently they generally play console games. But he said that they now have computers too, because of "some game called minecraft"!!!!!!! Wow, that was weird, internet javagaming forum stuff coming into my reality!

Shows how popluar the game is. This student in my class knew all about markus too, from his paypal account suspension to how he lives in scandinavia! Markus is a celebrity!

I thought he lived in Sweden?

[Riven]

I thought he lived in Sweden?

http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=countries+in+scandinavia

[h3ckboy]

scandinavia is  the collection of sweden, finland, norway, and denmark (and maybe others). Its  like benelux

however it is usually reffered to as "being scandanavian"

[Mads]

scandinavia is  the collection of sweden, finland, norway, and denmark (and maybe others). Its  like benelux

however it is usually reffered to as "being scandanavian"

I live in Denmark.. We never say anything else than "Scandinavia", and is only when talking about the northern region of Europe. 
I never actually heard anyone say "being Scandinavian" before now.. Maybe that is because it would be "Scandinavisk" which does not make much sence  to me.. at least..

Does anyone know a tool like INVEdit, but written in Java? I have a huge building project going on 

[Eli Delventhal]

scandinavia is  the collection of sweden, finland, norway, and denmark (and maybe others). Its  like benelux

however it is usually reffered to as "being scandanavian"

Wow. I feel retarded.
 

[Mads]

Wow. I feel retarded.
 

Me aswell. And I'm from denmark  Never heard anyone say "to be scandinavian", because that sounds stupid in both Danish, Swedish, and Norwegian. At least that is what I think 

[Preston]

Markus Persson, I'd like to express my congratulations to you and your masterstroke "Minecraft".

You've reached what most (all?) of us current-/ ex-/ hobby- "independent Java game developers" never reached: A decent Java game which the whole computer world talks about ... and actually plays!
Is it a kind of new Tetris, this time From Sweden with Love ? :-)

Amazing, and I am impressed. You're kind of our hero.


P.S. Is Markus the very first self-made millionaire amongst the Java game developers? Superb!

P.P.S. We could make a list: "Decent trailers / videos about Minecraft". My current favourite is this one because the video sequences and music interact well: Minecraft Fanmade Trailer by Vareide, uploaded 19th September 2010 and viewed since then nearly one million times. Unbelievable!

[kappa]

Fan made flash movie for minecraft here.

[ryanm]

The prospect of mining diamonds whilst on the bus was too enticing to wait, so I made a feasibility test of minecraft level rendering for android. It seems to work pretty well , 30ish fps aboveground, and over 60 in tunnels, just using vertex arrays and un-JITted java. Even with the added expense of running the actual game bits, I reckon that'll be perfectly playable.
The Galaxy S is ridiculously powerful though, the outlook may not be so rosy on other devices.

One more thing for the hordes to moan at Markus for not immediately implementing exactly as they think it should be. Sorry!

[Eli Delventhal]

The prospect of mining diamonds whilst on the bus was too enticing to wait, so I made a feasibility test of minecraft level rendering for android. It seems to work pretty well , 30ish fps aboveground, and over 60 in tunnels, just using vertex arrays and un-JITted java. Even with the added expense of running the actual game bits, I reckon that'll be perfectly playable.
The Galaxy S is ridiculously powerful though, the outlook may not be so rosy on other devices.

One more thing for the hordes to moan at Markus for not immediately implementing exactly as they think it should be. Sorry!

How did you get the code to draw all this stuff?

[ryanm]

The save format is well described in the wiki, apart from that I made it from scratch. I haven't done any of the special cases like half-blocks, steps or liquids, so it's just a big load of cube faces.

[Mickelukas]

It is indeed. Someone grabbed the save file and wrote his own renderer for it using ray tracing:
http://www.devmaster.net/forums/showthread.php?t=16540

[Bonbon-Chan]

I just saw MineCraft on french TV  . Well it was very short and the channel is called "NoLife" but still 

[Abuse]

Has Minecraft really grossed more than £4 million? (£60k/day??)

[kappa]

Has Minecraft really grossed more than £4 million? (£60k/day??)

yup, it has over half a million sales now (at €10 each) and counting, its not even reached beta yet.
Its become the most successful indie game ever.

[Mads]

I heard minecraft's core code is really bad. I haven't looked at it myself, because I'm not into modding.
Especially the server should be bad, because of multiple threads per. connected client - can that really be? 

[Mickelukas]

I heard minecraft's core code is really bad. I haven't looked at it myself, because I'm not into modding.
Especially the server should be bad, because of multiple threads per. connected client - can that really be? 

Maybe this is a bit offtopic but... what's wrong with that?

I've got two threads per connected client as well, one that constantly is listening and one that is looking for messages to write.

EDIT: corrections.

[princec]

The old days of trying to avoid thread-per-client are long gone. Plus the servers don't actually have that many clients on them.

Cas

[Eli Delventhal]

I heard minecraft's core code is really bad. I haven't looked at it myself, because I'm not into modding.
Especially the server should be bad, because of multiple threads per. connected client - can that really be? 

Max of 32 players-ish is like 64 threads, not really a big deal for a dedicated machine. Don't get me wrong, the Minecraft server eats memory like nobody's business, but the point is that it's relatively stable and most machines can run it.

[Mads]

Max of 32 players-ish is like 64 threads, not really a big deal for a dedicated machine. Don't get me wrong, the Minecraft server eats memory like nobody's business, but the point is that it's relatively stable and most machines can run it.

But isn't having that many threads running bad software architecture? Couldn't Marcus have done, with a loop that updates each player? <-- Where I come from, that is the only (legit, and "correct") way to do it - please correct me if Im wrong. I'm not trying to offend anyone.