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Offline TheAnalogKid

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« Reply #30 - Posted 2009-04-07 17:11:33 »

So? I'm not contradicting him AFAIK.

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« Reply #31 - Posted 2009-04-11 03:46:55 »

Here's a related article:

[size=14pt]Appleā€™s App Store Nears One Billion Served[/size]
http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/04/10/apples-app-store-nears-one-billion-served/

 Shocked

I suddenly feel like I went to the wrong party  Grin

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Offline h3ckboy

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« Reply #32 - Posted 2009-04-11 06:00:34 »

You guys gotta remember, the android is better Smiley.

the android uses java, so [size=20pt]JAVA IS THE FUTURE[/size]
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Offline zammbi

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« Reply #33 - Posted 2009-04-11 07:12:42 »

Does anyone know if there will be a JavaFX mobile store?
Because it will be sure missing out if there isn't a store...

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Offline CyanPrime
« Reply #34 - Posted 2009-04-11 17:04:06 »

Does anyone know if there will be a JavaFX mobile store?
Because it will be sure missing out if there isn't a store...
I hear javaFX sucks. And since it's a new script I kind of agree. I'm hoping they give that kind of functionality to normal Java soon though.
Offline zammbi

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« Reply #35 - Posted 2009-04-11 17:33:35 »

I would disagree on that, you shouldn't make up your mind before even testing it. I didn't like the idea of it first but I starting to like it after finding what JavaFX really is. 
I'm just finding it a little young atm.

It does have a new language, but its similar to Java but simpler and more powerful.
I would go on what are the advantages ... but you can search....

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Offline ChrisM

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« Reply #36 - Posted 2009-04-12 03:13:05 »

I hear javaFX sucks. And since it's a new script I kind of agree. I'm hoping they give that kind of functionality to normal Java soon though.

I hear that it's better to try a tech out first before dismissing it.  You know, I heard that Java is still slow, crappy and is only good for animating ad bars on web pages.  Wink

Offline DzzD
« Reply #37 - Posted 2009-04-12 09:17:39 »

I dont want to bash against JavaFX but unfortunatly I cannot see any good looking demo yet, could you point out us some nice one ?

Offline userek

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« Reply #38 - Posted 2009-04-12 09:27:37 »

I dont want to bash against JavaFX but unfortunatly I cannot see any good looking demo yet, could you point out us some nice one ?
Well, all the demos on the javafx website are... lets say not impressive. While some of the flex demos show good looking animated online stores javafx shows an UFO flying around the desktop Wink, and that flying UFO didn't work on my linux.
Offline zammbi

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« Reply #39 - Posted 2009-04-12 09:36:53 »

I seen nice Gui's, but I haven't seen any nice games yet. The nicest was pac man.... maybe its the performance that's stopping it. Because I'm having a hard time creating my game atm.
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and that flying UFO didn't work on my linux.
Its also was really buggy on windows 7.

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Offline DzzD
« Reply #40 - Posted 2009-04-12 09:41:38 »

NB: I cant get more than 1 frame every 2 second for the streaming video on JavaFX home... there are some serious performance issue

I have enought love for Java and can defend it, but for JavaFX not yet.....

Offline Mr_Light

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« Reply #41 - Posted 2009-04-12 10:59:21 »

and that flying UFO didn't work on my linux.

didn't know a (official) linux runtime was available yet?
NB: I cant get more than 1 frame every 2 second for the streaming video on JavaFX home... there are some serious performance issue

I have enought love for Java and can defend it, but for JavaFX not yet.....
The demo's I have run from the javafx side all seemed a hell of a lot better then any flash video I've come across. load was well peanuts compared to flash taxing the pc to the max. picture quality was better but, well somewhat sloppy.

Anyways what you saw was probably a bug - which is where flash is still ahead. Still quite some of them around.

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Offline brackeen

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« Reply #42 - Posted 2009-04-12 13:09:37 »

The thing about Apple and iPhone is, they focused on the user before the developer. How long was it before OS 2.0 came out? Apple spent tons of time making sure it *just works* before releasing the API to developers.

Sun is doing the opposite - focusing on the developer before the user. They are creating the API before fixing the show-stopping bugs (video playback bugs, browser crash bugs, etc.). JavaFX is actually a pretty cool language, and has some cool tech, but the bugs and trust dialogs make me run away in screaming horror.
Offline userek

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« Reply #43 - Posted 2009-04-14 05:06:12 »

didn't know a (official) linux runtime was available yet?
It dones't need any extra runtime, its using jre. There is no SDK for linux though.
Offline zammbi

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« Reply #44 - Posted 2009-04-14 06:28:05 »

It dones't need any extra runtime, its using jre. There is no SDK for linux though.
Some things wont work on Linux, like the media player.

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