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Offline Mr_Light

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« Reply #60 - Posted 2009-03-20 18:54:10 »

WW2 was depending on where you life somewhere around 1940-45

1984 the closed thing would be the cold war but I thaught that was disolved for the most part at that time too.

wiki saids:
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Nineteen Eighty-Four is a classic dystopian novel by English author George Orwell. Published in 1949, it is set in the eponymous year and focuses on a repressive, totalitarian regime. The story follows the life of one seemingly insignificant man, Winston Smith, a civil servant assigned the task of perpetuating the regime's propaganda by falsifying records and political literature. Smith grows disillusioned with his meager existence and so begins a rebellion against the system that leads to his arrest and torture.

For the ppl who don't read fiction - I'd suggest following some business intelligence and data warehousing classes, toss in some rfid stuff and google is the least of your worries Smiley

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Offline Matzon

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« Reply #61 - Posted 2009-03-20 18:55:40 »

1984 is a very important book by george orwell:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nineteen_Eighty-Four

Offline Eli Delventhal

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« Reply #62 - Posted 2009-03-21 20:00:24 »

the year?

what does WW2(or two, cant remember which was then) have toi do with this?
Shocked
...
 Shocked Shocked Shocked
* Demonpants is speechless...

They weren't lying when they said more kids recognized pictures of Ronald McDonald than they did Jesus or historical leaders.

Also, my last post said "Natsee Germany," but of course got censored. My point there was that what they did to the Jews and most of the European world was very similar to George Orwell's 1984 - put a frog in a pot and slowly raise the temperature and it won't jump out...

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Offline ewjordan

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« Reply #63 - Posted 2009-03-21 22:17:19 »

I love how this thread has devolved from "IBM might buy Sun" to "Google is Big Brother" Cheesy
And it looks like right now we're heading into "US education is teh fail" territory.  Which, having spent far too much time tutoring (I was an SAT and GRE tutor - teaching the ostensibly educated college students on their way to grad school was even more depressing than teaching the high school ones!), is sadly not an assessment I'd be able to disagree with...

I wonder if eventually this thread might even come full circle?  Only time will tell...
Offline cylab

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« Reply #64 - Posted 2009-03-22 00:01:12 »

I just finished watching "Die Welle", the german movie adaption of "The Wave" by Todd Strasser and the "put a frog in a pot and slowly raise the temperature and it won't jump out" analogie hit's the theme on the nail.

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Offline Tobiking

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« Reply #65 - Posted 2009-03-22 01:29:35 »

And it looks like right now we're heading into "US education is teh fail" territory.

It's not only the us education. The german school system also has some big flaws and instead of fixing it, they make it worse (my opinion).

But it looks like we are switching to the topic germany in ww2 already... I'm curious about what will come next.
Offline Eli Delventhal

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« Reply #66 - Posted 2009-03-22 04:22:51 »

The US education system is getting a rehaul in the next couple of years, who knows if it's for better or worse. In the meantime I'll take my upper-middleclass programmer salary and use it to get a house in a good school district (when I have kids, anyway).

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Offline h3ckboy

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« Reply #67 - Posted 2009-03-22 07:35:54 »

They weren't lying when they said more kids recognized pictures of Ronald McDonald than they did Jesus or historical leaders.
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I dont live in U.S. also, who is Ronald McDonald anyways?
Offline Mr. Gol

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« Reply #68 - Posted 2009-03-22 09:51:24 »

I dont live in U.S. also, who is Ronald McDonald anyways?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ronald_McDonald

He really used to freak me out when I was a kid Smiley
Offline princec

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« Reply #69 - Posted 2009-03-22 11:09:31 »

I prefered Turdburglar or whatever his name was.

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Offline h3ckboy

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« Reply #70 - Posted 2009-03-22 12:45:34 »

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ronald_McDonald

He really used to freak me out when I was a kid Smiley

oh like from mcdonalds.

I thought it was some person who jsut so happened to have mcdonald as their last name.
Offline princec

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« Reply #71 - Posted 2009-03-22 12:56:24 »

I confused him with the Messiah.

Cas Smiley

Offline Eli Delventhal

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« Reply #72 - Posted 2009-03-22 18:41:08 »

I confused him with the Messiah.

Cas Smiley
It's a common mistake. I myself have done it once or twice.

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Offline JoglHurt

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« Reply #73 - Posted 2009-03-24 19:52:35 »

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ronald_McDonald

He really used to freak me out when I was a kid Smiley

He or it started to freak me after I saw this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rt_X0t3Zscw .

Remember to turn your speakers on high volume.

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Offline h3ckboy

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« Reply #74 - Posted 2009-03-24 20:30:50 »

He or it started to freak me after I saw this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rt_X0t3Zscw .

Remember to turn your speakers on high volume.

I am gunna have ot skip that one. Wink
Offline pjt33
« Reply #75 - Posted 2009-03-24 22:44:20 »

Shocked
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 Shocked Shocked Shocked
* Demonpants is speechless...

They weren't lying when they said more kids recognized pictures of Ronald McDonald than they did Jesus or historical leaders.
In fairness, hackboy may have known that 1984 was written in 1948 but not have actually read it.

And it makes sense that more people should recognise pictures of Ronald McD than Jesus. Ronald McD's characterisation is carefully controlled, so there is effectively one image of him, whereas Jesus doesn't seem to have posed for many sculptures and so no-one knows what he looked like except in broad terms and every artist's impression is different.
Offline princec

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« Reply #76 - Posted 2009-03-24 23:35:55 »

Especially confusing as every picture of Jesus for the last 1500 years seems to depict him as a white guy with long straight hair and blue eyes when if you look at the demographics of the people that live around Nazareth they're all quite black Smiley

Cas Smiley

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« Reply #77 - Posted 2009-03-24 23:51:02 »

In USA & Europe they think he's white.
In Africa they think he's black.

Just like in USA & Europa they think the zebra is a white horse with black stripes.
And in Africa they think the zebra is a black horse with white stripes.

It's all about perspective.

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Offline kaffiene
« Reply #78 - Posted 2009-03-24 23:54:15 »

Especially confusing as every picture of Jesus for the last 1500 years seems to depict him as a white guy with long straight hair and blue eyes when if you look at the demographics of the people that live around Nazareth they're all quite black Smiley

Cas Smiley

Yeah, Jesus was an Arab - I wonder if the US religious Right has really though much about that...
Offline bobjob

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« Reply #79 - Posted 2009-03-25 00:29:06 »

wow this is way off topic, i have to say my little bit

interesting facts:
Yeah, Jesus was an Arab - I wonder if the US religious Right has really though much about that...
*as much as an german born in south africa, is south african. his perants were jew.
*jesus probably had olive skin (a little from column A, and a little from column B)
*another guy mentioned in the big book is "Simeon called 'N'" (the n word by friends), as he was noted as being black, therefore its unlikely jesus was.

anyway im guessing noone really cares so... back on topic:


I think IBM is the best suited company to buy java. they have had alot of experience with it. I cant think of any other company with that much money to burn, being a good choice.

Is there any possibility that we will loose rights as developers? or maybe even target audiences?


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Offline Eli Delventhal

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« Reply #80 - Posted 2009-03-25 07:23:04 »

I caen't reed gud!

Anyway yeah back on topic. I don't care who buys Sun as long as Apple stops sucking so hard on getting me Java 1.6.

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Offline gouessej
« Reply #81 - Posted 2009-03-25 07:44:04 »

Is there any possibility that we will loose rights as developers? or maybe even target audiences?
If IBM decides not to provide Java under GPL, Linux developers will become really angry   Angry (me included).

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« Reply #82 - Posted 2009-03-25 08:27:09 »

If IBM decides not to provide Java under GPL, Linux developers will become really angry   Angry (me included).

its already GPL, you can't put the genie back in the bottle.
Offline kevglass

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« Reply #83 - Posted 2009-03-25 09:04:19 »

Can they relicense new versions? (I'm under the impression you can change the license at the later date it just doesn't apply to the older work).

Kev

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« Reply #84 - Posted 2009-03-25 10:17:08 »

IBM's license for Java was obtained before the GPL'ed version was released - no reason they wouldn't continue using that - except that IBM seem fine about open source stuff, as after all, they largely sell services rather than software.

Cas Smiley

Offline brackeen

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« Reply #85 - Posted 2009-03-25 14:24:19 »

Well, IBM does contribute to Apache Harmony, and then there's this:
http://news.cnet.com/8301-10784_3-6134853-7.html
IBM wasn't too happy about the way it was open-sourced. Of course, Sun can't please everyone.

If IBM bought Sun, they'd be participating in three Java implementations: the original IBM Java, Sun Java, and Harmony. At that point, I'm sure they'd want to combine efforts somehow.
Offline trembovetski

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« Reply #86 - Posted 2009-03-25 15:56:07 »

Quote
the original IBM Java

IBM's Java is pretty much licensed Sun implementation, with most differences in the JVM.

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Offline h3ckboy

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« Reply #87 - Posted 2009-03-25 18:05:03 »

In fairness, hackboy may have known that 1984 was written in 1948 but not have actually read it.

for starters it is hEckboy Wink

also I didnt think that.

also, I thought it was space odeyssey: 3001(or 2100 cant remember) I could be BSing though, not sure Wink
Offline pjt33
« Reply #88 - Posted 2009-03-25 19:16:08 »

Not to keep ragging here, but 1984 was not written in 1984.
I know. That's why I said it was written in 1948. As in nineteen forty-eight. He reversed the last two digits to get the year in which he set it.

h3ckboy, apologies for getting the name wrong. I've been misreading it for a couple of months.
Offline Eli Delventhal

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« Reply #89 - Posted 2009-03-25 19:35:16 »

I know. That's why I said it was written in 1948. As in nineteen forty-eight. He reversed the last two digits to get the year in which he set it.

h3ckboy, apologies for getting the name wrong. I've been misreading it for a couple of months.
Oops! Sorry for being a dick, apparently I'm dyslexic. I'll go edit out that post because it's completely due to my brain not reading correctly.

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