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Offline Adijatsalisu

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« Posted 2007-07-09 14:07:36 »

I intend to do a project on creating a 3D game in java but i really don't know how to go about starting it.I have downloaded java on my system but I need tutorials to get me started.
Please I need someone to help
Offline purpleguitar

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« Reply #1 - Posted 2007-07-09 17:01:01 »

Follow all of the advice from the other thread that you resurrected:  first learn Java, then write simple games, then write more complex games.
Offline keldon85

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« Reply #2 - Posted 2007-07-09 17:38:26 »

Easiest things you can do:
(a) download JRE
(b) download eclipse
(c) read some Java tutorials
(d) google for 3d graphics tutorials!!!

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Offline 2playgames

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« Reply #3 - Posted 2007-07-09 18:10:20 »

better download JDK instead of JRE, that will give you javadoc tooltips in eclipse

Offline keldon85

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« Reply #4 - Posted 2007-07-09 20:23:49 »

better download JDK instead of JRE, that will give you javadoc tooltips in eclipse
Or you can just download the JDK documentation  Smiley

Offline 2playgames

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« Reply #5 - Posted 2007-07-09 20:38:50 »

then you'll have to look it up every time. tooltips are so much more handy Wink

Offline keldon85

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« Reply #6 - Posted 2007-07-09 20:49:50 »

then you'll have to look it up every time. tooltips are so much more handy Wink
That's what I mean, you can download the Java documentation and link that to Eclipse for the JavaDoc tool tips!

Offline 2playgames

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« Reply #7 - Posted 2007-07-09 21:47:30 »

oh well, if you download the JDK it will get the tooltips from the source instead of the HTML pages, which is faster i think  Roll Eyes

Offline keldon85

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« Reply #8 - Posted 2007-07-09 21:59:57 »

Does the source come with the JDK; I always thought you had to download that separately (as it requires signing of an NDA). If it does then I'll install the JDK instead since I found the source useful in uni.

Offline Kova

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« Reply #9 - Posted 2007-07-09 22:06:10 »

Does the source come with the JDK

yes
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Offline 2playgames

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« Reply #10 - Posted 2007-07-09 22:21:19 »

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Does the source come with the JDK; I always thought you had to download that separately (as it requires signing of an NDA). If it does then I'll install the JDK instead since I found the source useful in uni.
ah yes i forgot to mention, with the JDK you can go to the source (easily by Ctrl-Clicking on the method you want to observe) and see how it works.

Offline keldon85

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« Reply #11 - Posted 2007-07-10 07:03:09 »

ah yes i forgot to mention, with the JDK you can go to the source (easily by Ctrl-Clicking on the method you want to observe) and see how it works.
Yes, I used to use that feature at uni. I just thought it was because they downloaded the source, having said that I never noticed it when I used to install the JDK!

Offline Adijatsalisu

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« Reply #12 - Posted 2007-07-10 07:18:47 »

Tnx for all ur replies.I have downloded java JDK on my system. But in my school we use text to write ,compile and run our program. But I don't if it is the same.Now that i have java on my system should I try and download Test pad too in order to write codes.
Offline keldon85

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« Reply #13 - Posted 2007-07-10 07:35:55 »

Eclipse automatically compiles code. When writing in text mode you will have to compile yourself using javac, and then run using java. You can just try it out as there is no ONE answer to this. I would suggest that you learn to program java in Eclipse, and figure out how to compile from the command line (which is easy).

Then when you are comfortable you can begin to just use the command line to get used to that, but practise everything in Eclipse - especially since it automatically tells you where errors are.

Offline 2playgames

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« Reply #14 - Posted 2007-07-10 10:28:08 »

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I never noticed it when I used to install the JDK!
probably because Java wasn't open source (or whatever) until recently

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« Reply #15 - Posted 2007-07-10 17:42:07 »

Ant support within Eclipse is another reason to install a JDK, rather than JRE....

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Offline keldon85

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« Reply #16 - Posted 2007-07-10 19:05:01 »

Ant support within Eclipse is another reason to install a JDK, rather than JRE....
If you're using Eclipse then what is the benefit of using Ant? I guess it's something that you can bundle with your source code so that people can compile it using Ant!

Offline 2playgames

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« Reply #17 - Posted 2007-07-10 20:51:59 »

ant can do more than just build, you can use to create javadocs, jars, installers (by calling an external tool) and more, all at the click of 1 button

Offline keldon85

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« Reply #18 - Posted 2007-07-10 21:19:36 »

Did you say, "click of a button"?

"Hmmmmmm, buttons"

Offline Adijatsalisu

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« Reply #19 - Posted 2007-07-11 10:18:32 »

I really need someone to talk me through this 3d modeling
I don't know anything about esclipse or ant.So pls is there any good teacher in d house i really need one to break it down for me.Pls
Offline purpleguitar

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« Reply #20 - Posted 2007-07-11 12:43:49 »

This isn't 3D modeling: it's programming.  If you want to create 3D models, try out blender (which is free), 3D Studio Max, Maya, or the like.  Artists create 3D models, which are then incorporated into a game by programmers.  Sometimes this happens directly, and sometimes it happens indirectly: programmers create tools that artists and designers can use to import a model into a game or level.

It sounds like you might be looking for something like Torque, GameMaker, or 3dGameStudio.  These are game engines that you can use to create games with much less time and energy than it would take to write them "from scratch" in Java.
Offline Jackal von ÖRF

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« Reply #21 - Posted 2007-07-11 19:03:57 »

probably because Java wasn't open source (or whatever) until recently
The src.zip file which contains the source of the .java files has always come with the JDK.

Offline 2playgames

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« Reply #22 - Posted 2007-07-11 19:39:58 »

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The src.zip file which contains the source of the .java files has always come with the JDK.
oh, i didn't know that
the source of the .java files is the programmer  Grin but i know you mean the .class files Tongue

Offline Adijatsalisu

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« Reply #23 - Posted 2007-07-12 07:07:45 »

Sorry 4 using the word modelling.I intend to build a game using java programmiing language not an pllication.But all I need is a guide on how to start, where to look for material. Cos it is a project and I have to look for technologies involved in 3d animation in game using java and so much more.

Firstly wat I need now is a starting point.
Offline keldon85

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« Reply #24 - Posted 2007-07-12 08:10:32 »

Well firstly you should start by telling us what you do and don't know. What is the timescale of your project? Have you tried google? If so then what is wrong with the results found?

Offline Adijatsalisu

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« Reply #25 - Posted 2007-07-12 16:59:36 »

I know  some basic things about java. I have done some applications in java . But I haven't done anything on creating 3d graphics in java not totalk of a game.I have till August 31. I have found somethings in google but I'm really feeling it that much.I need a little bit of one on one.
I have also found some APIs' involved and decide to stick to java3d. All I need now is where to start from. I need Textpad on my sytem for coding purpose but java hass been downloaded already.
Offline keldon85

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« Reply #26 - Posted 2007-07-12 18:10:50 »

You will find it much easier to work in an IDE like NetBeans or Eclipse, which has code completion and provides mouse over documentation of the Java API. Buy a book like 3D Game Programming with Java

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