Help, Newbie trying to do UDP

[nech_neb]

Hi  all,

I'm trying to use UDP in my game...
but I'm having trouble finding good examples...

I'm using DatagramSocket right now for my
server and client code. The main thing I'm getting
stuck on is, I have no problem making a server
app, and client app, and having the client app
send packets to the server. But is there a way
for the server app to send stuff back to the client
based on the packets sent from the client to the
server??

I think more specifically, from the server , I'm trying to
find a way to find out where the DatagramPacket
is sent from. I tried printing out the InetAddress
of the DatagramePacket, but it was of no use.

To my understanding...  UDP is not connection base...
Do does that mean I can't communicated back
and fourth using 1 instance of the UPD protocal?

I'm thinking if I should be using a DatagramChannel
on the server implementation instead... But I'm
having problems locating example code on the
internet. Also I have found serveral posts complaining
about the performance of the DatagramChannel

And advice would be appriciated.
Sorry for my amature knowledge in advance.
and much thanks.

[Backmask]

Never thouched UDP in Java until this weekend so nice timing on your question.

First I would recommend this java tutorial at java.sun.com
http://java.sun.com/docs/books/tutorial/networking/datagrams/index.html

It explains what UDP is, how to use it in Java. Read especielly this part
http://java.sun.com/docs/books/tutorial/networking/datagrams/clientServer.html

as it explains how to create an server, client 2 way communication. But I give you a short code example below

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//CLIENT CODE String bufStr = "ping"; byte[] buf = bufStr.toBytes(); DatagramPacket packet = new DatagramPacket(buf, buf.length); socket.send(packet); buf = new byte[256]; packet = new DatagramPacket(buf, buf.length); socket.receive(packet); String t = new String(packet.getData()).trim(); System.out.println(t);

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/SERVER CODE //receive packet from client socket.receive(packet); //packet is the udp-packet the server received from the client InetAddress address = packet.getAddress();  //Gets the clients ip number int port = packet.getPort(); //get the port the client used to send the upp-packet //Create a new packet containing data buf packet = new DatagramPacket(buf, buf.length, address, port); //sending the new packet back to the client. socket.send(packet);

Hope this helps.

[nech_neb]

Ahh... I think MulticastSocket will solve my problems...
Once I solve some firewall issues...

Thanks for the link  

On a side note...
Is there any advantage for switching to use
NIO communication rather than net ??

I've heard different stuff through out...
Was the java.net package re-done using NIO ??

Lastly, has anyone read the book
Java NIO Author: Ron Hitchens
ISBN: 0596002882

Is it a good reference for NIO ??
I'm finding lack of good reference information
on the internet on NIO...
and that seems to be the trend from what I've read
here...

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[Backmask]

I havn't played around with nio yet but as I understand it, it is a completely new "design" of using sockets. The advantage is that you can don't need one thread for each client connected to your server. This is a big issue with servers that should handle over 1000 client connections at the same time. 1000 thread isn't something that will bost your server preformence exaclty. So if your writting a preformence critical server/client application look in to NIO(or if you just like to learn it) but as you said there is a lack of good documentation. Don't know anything about that book unfortunate.

[elias]

NIO is good for getting rid of threads, that's right. And yes, that gives better scalability for obscene amounts of clients - but the the absolute best part is avoiding the multithreading code, locking etc. That's why I always use NIO, even though I only expect a few clients on my server (<20).

- elias