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Offline K.I.L.E.R

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« Posted 2005-10-17 05:01:33 »

My friends and I were talking.
I gave a friend Eclipse ages ago, I also suggested Eclipse to another friend a few times(Now he's using it).

Today one of my friends were saying that Eclipse was useless. Keep in mind these guys are first year undergraduates and the one who said it was useless had never coded before this year.

Anyway my friend who I had suggested Eclipse to had told my other friend not to worry because I "[...]forces Eclipse[...]" on everyone. Shocked
This shocked me because even though I tend to ramble on about things(like Eclipse being a Godsend) I never believed that I was so persistant to the point of me forcing another human being to use the world's best IDE.

Does this mean I have a strong bias towards Eclipse?

Vorax:
Is there a name for a "redneck" programmer?

Jeff:
Unemployed. Wink
Offline weston

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« Reply #1 - Posted 2005-10-17 06:25:32 »

yes.

for(int i = 1; i > 0; i++)
{
System.out.println(i+" cups of java downed");
}
Offline c_lilian

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« Reply #2 - Posted 2005-10-17 07:15:16 »

And also that you haven't tried NB5 Wink

(joking)

Lilian

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Offline Matlu

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« Reply #3 - Posted 2005-10-17 08:51:46 »

1. Eclipse really IS a Godsend Smiley
2. Your friends should also try some other IDE, and if they find it more comfortable they should stick to it. You have right to have your own opinion and to gospel it Smiley

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Offline princec

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« Reply #4 - Posted 2005-10-17 09:14:04 »

Funny thing about Eclipse, all the other devs where I work use the Java perspective to code and navigate, and I use the Java Browsing perspective. It completely changes the IDE and I can't for the life of me figure out why they use the daft tree view of the application. Whenever I have to tell them where something is it's painful watching people scroll and click and scroll and click all over the place looking in the enormous tree when I'm only ever 3 clicks away from the precise method I want to edit. Ho hum.

Cas Smiley

Offline Matzon

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« Reply #5 - Posted 2005-10-17 09:25:03 »

I just use CTRL+SHIFT+T - no clicking, only typing Smiley

Offline Matzon

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« Reply #6 - Posted 2005-10-17 09:25:27 »

and ofcourse CTRL+O for methods

Offline ryanm

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« Reply #7 - Posted 2005-10-17 09:46:07 »

the one who said it was useless had never coded before this year.

There's the problem right there, he's unable to appreciate Eclipse for the sublime whisper of love that it so manifestly is because he can't yet know how good it is.

Give him a year or two of manual-refactoring, classpath-setting, typo-ridden, uphill-both-ways-in-the-snow programming and he'll see the light.
Offline m00wley

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« Reply #8 - Posted 2005-10-17 12:48:44 »

It's just like beer!
The first beer you ever drinked, tasted somewhat funny and you couldnt figure out what the fuzz was all about. But the more beer you drink, the more you seem to like the godsend brew.

And I would like to propose a toast for Eclipse, Cheers!


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Offline OverKill

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« Reply #9 - Posted 2005-10-17 13:49:43 »

Ask them what you should have done?
Tell them to use MS-Editor and the dos console?

To do a job you need the right tools, and when it comes to tools only the best will do.
Among them are imho Eclipse, jEdit and NetBeans.
You thought Eclipse is the best and thus you gave them the tool you thought was best.

If someone thinks Eclipse sucks... well then they should stay away from anything more complicated then a stick! Wink

If you want to really rub it in, tell them you would gladly run through it with them step by step to make sure he gets it.
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