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 61 
 on: 2015-07-02 06:24:08 
Started by thedanisaur - Last post by BurntPizza
The file is 31MB, I'll look into it.

Is that a compressed file? If so, the in-memory size will be much larger. Just keep that in mind.

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 on: 2015-07-02 06:22:07 
Started by thedanisaur - Last post by thedanisaur
@BurntPizza I made an edit. Also, I know I was just seeing if anybody had an idea before I started hacking away at non-audio related stuff.

@CopyableCougar4 The file is 31MB, I'll look into it.

 63 
 on: 2015-07-02 06:18:26 
Started by thedanisaur - Last post by CopyableCougar4
I just mean that the a large audio file not streamed will use a lot of memory, and in theory with some hardcore GC the memory usage could stay stable while requiring more time each frame to GC. Although I may be really wrong, so please correct me if I am.

 64 
 on: 2015-07-02 06:18:12 
Started by thedanisaur - Last post by BurntPizza
Then start removing things until the problem goes away. Start with the audio system if that's what's suspicious.
Tip: if you're using git, git-bisect is good here: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/4713088/how-to-use-git-bisect

 65 
 on: 2015-07-02 06:16:14 
Started by thedanisaur - Last post by thedanisaur
@BurntPizza I have, there's no discernible different in profile results, I've done it multiple times just to make sure I'm not crazy.

Edit: FYI I'm using javax.sound.sampled.Clip if that makes a difference.

Edit2: actually that's not true, whenever I profile after swapbuffers is taking forever.

 66 
 on: 2015-07-02 06:14:48 
Started by thedanisaur - Last post by BurntPizza
Profile the app before and during slowdown.

 67 
 on: 2015-07-02 06:13:42 
Started by thedanisaur - Last post by thedanisaur
I'm a little confused by what you mean. If I have a large audio file, not streamed, then the RAM will stay stable but GC will kick in?

 68 
 on: 2015-07-02 06:09:03 
Started by CommanderKeith - Last post by CommanderKeith
Surely it's quite the opposite though; the API can *only* be expressed in one form,

That's a tautological argument.  The process(es) which the API expresses could be expressed in another form as a different API.

a precise set of class, field & method signatures.

And documented behaviour!  Without that the API is pretty much worthless.  With that, in particular in the specification of behaviour between components, you start to get the expression of the idea (IMO).

@Abuse's point is interesting. If copying the entire api is not possible, then compatibility is broken. Applying this logic to vmware and other hypervisors, which rip off entire operating systems' apis, they are all illegally copying (and distributing, @princec) and owe licensing fees to Apple and Microsoft.
Indeed, Java itself rips off windows apis such as the file system, or windowing toolkit, and every other api that exposes operating system functionality. Therefore oracle owes licensing fees to the operating system developers.
Obviously this is silly, but this chain of thought seems consistent with oracle's and some of your arguments.

 69 
 on: 2015-07-02 06:06:59 
Started by thedanisaur - Last post by CopyableCougar4
I see that you said that the memory size hovers at about 1000mb, but I would be willing to bet that if you were using audio with relatively long clips that weren't streamed that the usage could hover there with large slowdowns to GC and keep that ram usage stable.

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 on: 2015-07-02 05:31:56 
Started by BurntPizza - Last post by thedanisaur
Stripped out a ton of legacy code(3 different input systems) and reworked a new input system into my game so everything is uniform and uses 1 input system. Nothing pretty to show as far as graphics go, but I made my code look nice, so win there.

Also, I don't know if anybody noticed, but this topic has been viewed over 300,000 times so far  Cool

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