Well, couldn't find that anywhere when I tried to set it up. I ended up using the GUI tool to set up my projects, and that creates at least 2 projects.

But hey, like I said, I'll give LibGDX another swirl some time, and there's a far bigger chance that I'll do it, now that I know that I'm not forced to have multiple projects for 1 game.

My personal biggest hassle with LibGDX(The second biggest reason I wont be using it, at least for now), is that it assumes that I'll be developing to multiple platforms at once.

I don't give a shit about mobile platforms(If I did, I'd learn to code in their native language, e.g. Objective-C for iPhone/iPad(Yes, I know, Android uses Java, but I don't use Android and don't care much for their broken market and fractured platforms)) and I don't care about WebGL either, so I rather dislike that the default setup of LibGDX forces me to have several projects in Eclipse, just to make a simple desktop game.

I managed to set up LWJGL, with javadoc/source code attached, far far faster than I figured out how to setup a LibGDX project.

But like I said, I'll eventually try out LibGDX, but until then I'll be "wasting" my own time.

Personally I think the best answer to this question is to just link to the sites, and let the person asking the question do some reading, instead of trying to bias them towards something. And when they've reached a decision, help them with their questions about whatever platform they chose, instead of saying "omg omg, x is so much better than y!!one11! lyk serisly!"

Repeating what've been said already: Choose whatever you find the most easy, and move on when/if it becomes necessary.

@HeroesGraveDev
I'm all with you there.

I'm going to learn(hopefully) how to use LWJGL, once my finals and such are over and done. (I might pick up LibGDX at some point after that, but LWJGL first.)

@davedes
I didn't install any extra things, so what I'm using is standard download and install from http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/index.html (Also notice, how I myself mentioned that everything in Java were libraries... So you're just repeating what I already said with your "bla bla library bla bla" )

@the general popylation
And someone that has programmed for a few month probably should spend their time learning basic concepts before trying to learn graphics programming. I know a lot of people in here thinks that a game is utter crap, unless it has fancy graphics that can rival that of AAA companies, and thus it's a big must to learn OpenGL..... But imho then that's utter and complete bullshit. Graphics is the least important in a game.

So uhm.. If you aren't able to create a high tech thing, without looking back at other high tech things, then how did the first high tech things appear? Magic? And yes, using a full fledged library, before learning any basics is surely laziness. And very *few* on this forum can be called professional game developers.

And I really don't get the whole argument that you should just use a library to do everything for you. Do you use a library to wipe your own ass too(Mmm, paper jokes)? I completely agree that a library can be helpful. But there never should be a point where someone say "Oh, instead of learning how to actually do what you want to do, just use X library, it'll do everything for you, even make your coffee."

For simple 2d, for beginners, there's nothing wrong with learning the robes, before taking on a full fledged library. At least encourage people to THINK before telling them that they can achieve world peace, if they use library X. :/

And where's the need to use LWJGL for any of this?


Here's the same code, using javax.vecmath.Vector2d:


And Mouse.getX() / Mouse.getY() could be taken from my own MouseController class.

Teach people to learn some basic stuff, before teaching them to use a library, and please for the love of <whatever you think is epic/awesome/holy/etc>, do NOT involve new people in your wars of what library is the most epic. It's just a waste of time.


@alaslipknot
Do a few basic Java2d games, before moving to a big fat library(The joke here is, that most of what's shipped with Java is already libraries, which is why there's the whole throwing around of "why not write machine code then, if you don't want to use a library, blablabla").

Just get a feel for how things work and how to structure your stuff. Once's you've gotten down sprites, etc. etc., then you can start learning OpenGL and one of the many libraries out there(Of which most use LWJGL internally, as far as I've seen...).

Cheers and good luck!

Yup, it's not loading for me either. ^^

That was kind of my point. ;P

However, I haven't really looked closely at the difference of how slow move speed looks with OpenGL vs Java2D, so I wouldn't know of the difference.

Are you claiming that other things can render coordinates as floats? E.g. render at (10.5, 10.5)? So rendering only half of the eleventh pixel on both axises?

Arh, right. I should've thought of map.putAll().

Thanks a bunch!

Well, I thought I put the map object into the provided map on line 7, however it only sticks as long as I'm inside the function call, thus I have to return the map.

Is there a prettier way of doing the following?



At first I didn't return anything, because I thought that Objects(Map in this case) were passed by reference, so I just assigned the value of whatever was read, to passed Map. However, this didn't alter the value outside of the function call.

So now I need a Map to get the types it uses and then return a map. :/



just isn't as good looking as plain old loadMap(file, foobar); or foobar = loadMap(file) (These two variants is the ones I like the most (Looks the most pretty xD))

Cheers!

Well, only a problem with OSX 10.8 and Java 7. So if you're using Java 6, then no problems

I was considering snatching a nightly and just get going. And you should be voted for "Kappa as <insert epic title here>" for all the work you've done on LWJGL!

Personally, I'm looking very much forward to the release of LWJGL 2.9.0, so that I can start using it on my Mac(Yes, I know, use Windows, blah blah blah  ), and actually learn some OpenGl and stuff! I've already got a small game planed out, that I'll make with it. (Along side with my attempt at a tower defense game(which currently is Java2d))

Anyone has some up to date tutorials on OpenGL/LWJGL? I'll be looking through https://github.com/mattdesl/lwjgl-basics/wiki because that seems like a good start, but more resources wouldn't be bad.

Cheers!

You should probably ask these questions on the Minecraft forums, instead. And obviously your jar file is either invalid corrupt, if that's what it's telling you.

Arh, but I don't use the guides, videos or maps either. xD Though admittedly it's cool that it's available within easy reach.

Windows+5 to start Eclipse (Windows 7, when apps are in the quick start, you can start them with Windows+# where # is their location from the left to the right, starting with 1)
"syso" -> ctrl+space
ctrl+s (Yes, auto format code when I save)
ctrl+7 - comment out/in line(s)
ctrl+alt+r - refactor variable, function, etc.

On osx for me, the only difference is that I do "cmd+space" type "ecli" and hit enter, to start Eclipse, and instead of ctrl on most of the hotkeys, I use cmd. xD

Well, considering that it's telling you that the input to ImageIO.read() is null, then this.getClass().getResource("res/bg.png") must be the problem.

Have you tried cleaning the keyboard?

Well, not checking for collision at each step could cause your object to jump through other objects.

Say object A is 10x10 pixels and moves to the right with a speed of 20px/tick, it starting position is (0, 10), measured from the top left corner, now at (15, 15) there's an object which is 2x2 pixels in size. This object will be completely ignored if you only check for collision at (0, 10), (20, 10), (40, 10), etc. etc.

I hope this makes a little sense.

Cheers!

I actually very rarely use the overlay, and I've never ever in my life used their voice chat function. Didn't think anyone used their voice chat, to be honest. With Skype, Mumble, etc. etc. etc.

I have no idea what your question is, or what your problem is, but I'm guessing that you forgot to do



on your JFrame. That'll close the app, once the window closes.

Well, Steam has been out longer than more or less all smartphones(Steam was released in ~2003), soooo... ^_^

But yeah, they've gotten a heck of a lot of things right.

I couldn't agree more, and that's what Steam has gotten exactly right.

I'll admit, if I can't get a game as a physical box or through Steam(And I'd like to be able to add my physical boxed game to Steam too), then odds are I wont be buying it.

(Plus, I think Steam has made it less viable to download pirated games, because it's just that much easier to get them through Steam, instead of having to deal with loads of cracks, and what not.)

SHC, I suppose creating new objects every tick would create a lot of garbage. Only way, that I can see, around that, would be to store all entities in a list and then iterate through that list and add them to the grid. (Not sure how much extra ram this'd use extra though, probably not twice as much because of pointers.) Thus when you remove an entity from the list of entities, it'll be removed from the grid 'automatically.'

Bummer. :/

Shouldn't it be noted that it's faster to repopulate the grid every tick, than to remove an object from the cells and then add it to another? (At least that's what I've gathered from reading this forum)

That's at least how I do it myself.

Sounds like what you want/need is to have multiple states/screens/whatever-you-want-to-call it.

so something like:


Where activeScreen is, in this case, an instance of Screen which handles how it'll be drawn. Then you can generate the map while that screen is active? (Horrible explanation, right here! )