I'd recommend looking at the scene-graphs out there

jME
xith3D
java3D

at least jME has code and examples for navigation.
or download a few open source java games and look at how others have done that

Ok, so i'm a bit late here but what You want to achieve is perfectly reasonable.
take a look at: http://irrforge.org/index.php/Tutorials for details

edit: Seamless World and Donut World are the ones to look at

I remember having seen some tuts on randomly generated content on gamasutra.com
(including random name generation)
... but cant remember the exact article

cep21 is the importer specialist for jme , but i don't know if he reads this backup forum.
So if this is not answered in time i suggest waiting for the official forums to be back up and repost it there.

from a quick view into the code it seems that the UIButton gets a reference to the inputSystem at creation.

then at runtime UIButton.update(float) is called each logic cycle.

The key however seem to lie in the mouse - setup:


/*
        * The absolute mouse
        */
       mouse = new AbsoluteMouse("Mouse Input", display.getWidth(), display
               .getHeight());
       TextureState cursor = display.getRenderer().createTextureState();
       cursor.setEnabled(true);
       cursor.setTexture(TextureManager.loadTexture(TestAbsoluteMouse.class
               .getClassLoader()
               .getResource("jmetest/data/cursor/cursor1.png"),
               Texture.MM_LINEAR, Texture.FM_LINEAR, true));

       /*
        * Add the cursor texture to the mouse
        */
       mouse.setRenderState(cursor);
       /*
        * Add the alpha state to the mouse
        */
       mouse.setRenderState(as2);
       mouse.setMouseInput(InputSystem.getMouseInput());

       /*
        * Set the speed of the mouse
        */
       mouse.setSpeed(2.0f);
       /*
        * Set the mouse that the inputHandler is using so the UIObjects can
        * retrieve it
        */
       input.setMouse(mouse);


hth
Martin

there's an example of circular animation in jmetest.TutorialGuide.HelloAnimation.
It rotates a point light and a box around a sphere using a SpatialTransformer.

Don't panic !
They know that already

The forums are down currently as they are transferred to another site because of troubles with the hoster.

The Boss said this could take some days

@ mojomonk:  Do You have any hints when it's up again ?

That used to be here:
http://java3d.netbeans.org/

The page says:
"Unfortunately the Netbeans Module code is now out of date and will not compile against the current Netbeans release."

but you still should be able to build and run the standalone app.

hth
Martin

@herkules: YES SIR, Flamer gesichert und entladen.

Sorry, i really didn't mean to flame somebody.
I'm not so strong biased toward a special IDE as it may seem. They are just tools to get my work done and NetBeans was a very good tool for me so far, so i'll stick with it until i find something much better.

@ Breakfast:   as you are speaking of it ... how do you include libraries in netbeans ?

... and shame on you for saying eclipse is better than my favourite IDE  

Martin

"Heave Ho" all you fallout - fans !
Consider taking a look at:

http://www.the-fall.com

They once tried to get the fallout - licence but failed, their product however may come close to what i'd expect from fallout 3 notetheless.

if this is on linux you should try to switch off vertex buffering
(seek a thread with -DXITH3D_USE_VERTEX_BUFFER ... or so  in this forum)
or upgrade your graphics driver as i remember there was some trouble with 44.96

regards
Martin

Can't find any.

Possible workaround:
1)  Use a 3D - modeller to create the letters/text and import them / it  to make a text.

2)  Investigate sun's Java3D java3d-utils-src.jar (can't remember if Text3D is really in there) and reimplement it.

hth
Martin

just wanted to note it's up again, but we are still waiting for Jeff's surprise  

Martin

Hello,  just noticed that the JSDT - download seems to be up again.

see: http://java.sun.com/products/java-media/jsdt/2.0/techinfo.html

regards
Martin

Thanks Herkules and Jeff

so (HQ) would be a high - level solution for networked games ?

sorry but i found nothing useful about ObjectBus is this a sun api ?
what do one need to use HQ ? external packages ?

Is HQ peer to peer or client server ?

could You give a code example of  usage of HQ ?

is the sourceforge Project approved yet ?

...lots of (naive) questions ...

regards
Martin

Hey, this JSDT thing sounds pretty much like the tool i'm looking for.

Jeff: how long may "shortly" be in this case ?

Can anyone give a rough description of the performance of JSDT ? feasible for game communications ?

Herkules: what's that HQ of yours ?

regards
Martin

All demos work for me now on linux with the new 53.28 nvidia linux drivers and XITH3D_USE_VERTEX_BUFFER_CHACHING enabled.
...unless someone turned vertex buffers off in xith the hard way

regards
Martin

maybe use a snapshot from a second view at mirror position and map that as texture ?

... just a thought ...

Martin

Sorry i'm a little late

System:  SuSE 9.0 Pro Kernel: 2.4.? KDE
Card:    Geforce 2 TI (Inno3D)
Driver:  Nvidia 44.96 (built Kernelinterface on Install)
OpenGL:  1.4.0 - Nvidia 44.96

Tests:
CubeTest:  yes
Multitexture: no
SwitchNode: no
AmbientLighting: no
LineAttributes: yes
TexCoordGen: no

Impressive work !
(counts for entire xith3d  )

is magicosm playable over a 56k modem ?

regards
Martin

Hello

the obj loaders give me problems on linux

If i change the line:
BufferedReader reader = new BufferedReader(new InputStreamReader(OBJLoader.class.getClassLoader().getResourceAsStream(objFile)));

to:
BufferedReader reader = new BufferedReader(new InputStreamReader(this.getClass().getClassLoader().getResourceAsStream(objFile)));

it works as expected (when also done for materialLoader)
used as is it never finds the resource (altough clustered all around the classpath) but gives back null

i am using j2sdk1.4.2_b28 on suse9.0
and the loader from 3days ago.

has anyone tested this on linux sucessfully ??

regards
Martin

I found it alot easier to do a full xith + third party stable install from xith.org than from cvs.
The release.jar on xith.home is also not quite up to date

I would vote for updating the download on feature adds as this should occur less frequently as mature versions emerge.

btw:
A link from xith.home (xith.dev.java.net) to xith.org could help direct newbees to the stuff

and:  thanks for maintaining xith.org anyway

regards
Martin

Hm did i get this locale thing in java3d right then ?

As far as i understand, they use 3  256 bit numbers to position a locale in the universe and  use that as a zero point for a locales locale coordinate system which  uses double's ?
Also, nearby locales are rendered if  in clipping distance.

The idea is  (i believe) to have a really big Scenegraph with locales defining points of interest (eg. solar systems, planets,  ?)  and be able to cull all  noneedtorender stuff (most of) easily.  

Does that make sense


Martin

Hello
this is maybe a bit clueless question but nonetheless:

How large can a xith universe get in comparison to java3d ?
Based on the locale concept java3d worlds could get really large in theory
Is there a similar concept in xith3d and how well does/will/should it work

regards
Martin

JSR-134 ?  
seem to be discontinued

I wouldn't write a loader for native AOI - Format at this time because AFAIK this format is subject to a lot of changes as development goes on.
Instead writing Exporters for AOI would be the way to go IMHO. But before doing so i suggest contacting the AOI - forums on SF.net.

Martin

Current Suse 8.2 Professional  (i don't know about Personal) comes with  sun  JRE 1.4.1 and SDK 1.4.1 + IBM Jikes (java Compiler) gcc-java 3.3 (gnu java compiler) ANT ...

the server vm seem to be in the jre package here ?!?

Suse Professional Edition always had up to date java versions  AFAIK

regards
Martin

still no luck  
Can't follow your link as i dont have sufficient permissions

Martin